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Hypocrites, Part 2Posted Tuesday, February 16, 2010, at 4:53 PM
*** A little explaner in what has happened on this blog. Things got way to personal for all involved about something that had absolutely nothing to do with this blog. For my part I do humbly apologize on my part for how personal it got. So for the better of this particular blog I took the original down and reposted it with no comments to give everyone a chance to concentrate on the actually contents within the posted blog. If you want to say that I silenced my critics, I silenced myself as well. So let's regain our focus and talk about the blog itself ***
I left a lot of this off the original blog because I just wanted to see how much farther today's Republican Party would sink themselves, and I'll be dipped that they did not keep me waiting.
So for over a year Republicans, conservatives, and the Tea Party crowd have been complaining that there has not been enough transparency in the health care debate. That's at least part of the reason the Republican Party has given for voting in unison against both versions of the health care reform. It more than likely is not true as they like their secret meetings as much as anyone else, it is just more politically convenient right now to want transparency. As late as January, Senator John Kyl (R-Arizona) had a tither when it was announced that President Obama and Congressional Democrats were going to have a closed door meeting about health care and when C-SPAN announced that it would like to televise health care reform meetings House Minority leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said that it was a very important step in the process.
Fast forward to February and now that President Obama has proposed a televised summit between himself and Congress Republicans have done a complete 180 degree somersault into a tuck now declaring that because Obama actually agrees with them and wants to televise the summit that it is more than likely a political stunt (acting as if nothing they have done over the past year has been just that). I believe what is actually at the base of all this is that they wanted a political stunt where they could outshine Obama, and then he actually attended one of their televised meetings and answered questions from them and not only did well, but scored a political point for the way he responded. Now their opinions have changed on televising anything. In my opinion those of us that actually follow politics closely know that the Republicans have no better ideas than what's presently out there. This has been bore out over the last year. They continued claiming that they were being held out of the process and that they had different ideas about how to do health care reform, but when they were pressed on what those ideas were they rarely would state anything. When they finally came out with a program, that Michael Steele spearheaded, it was nothing more than old ideas that never worked before dressed up for the internet age. Now that they have gotten what they want and cameras will be present for the exchanging of ideas between all parties they really are not sure they want to be a part of it.
Here are a couple of my predictions. They will sit down for the summit, some good ideas will comes out of it, but Republicans will say that the process was unfair and claim that Obama and the Democrats set it up to make the Republicans look bad.
2nd Prediction: The Republicans will back out of the summit and claim the reason as, in the first prediction, that the whole process was set up by Obama and the Democrats to make the Republicans look bad.
In either case the "liberal" media will be the Republicans lap dogs (as usual) and announce to the nation that the process was unfair and it was set-up by Obama and the Democrats to make the Republicans look bad. On the Sunday shows the panels will be made up of Republicans and conservatives all loyally shaking their heads yes to that claim and what Democrats that are asked to appear will sit by and say nothing.
There is a third option that everyone will get together come up with some good ideas and everyone will be happy, but you, I, and everyone knows that is just not going to happen. The Republicans have made a habit out of obstructing just to obstruct and there is no reason to believe that anything will change with this.
Now to the blatant hypocrisy concerning the stimulus or National Recovery Act or whatever you feel most comfortable calling it. When it passed last year every single Republican in Congress voted against it. They railed against it, even some Congressmen going as far as calling it arsenic and that it would only make things worse. As early as the first of this year they were claiming that it had not worked and was a colossal waste of money.
Here's the problem for the Republicans. For some reason they continue forgetting that cameras record what they say and it stays out there for everyone to see forever. The reason I say this is because what they are saying in Washington D.C. in the chambers or in front of the cameras is not really meshing with what they are saying in their home districts. A large group of Republicans even have pictures on their websites showing them with a group of people and one of those over sized checks touting the programs that were created by the very stimulus package they trashed on the national scene.
I am not sure if Republicans just believe that when they go back home that no one is paying attention or even more likely they just do not care. They play to the far right base when they are in the national spotlight but actually play to their real moderate right base when they go back home. Eric Cantor (R-Virginia) who masterminded the obstruction game of voting no across the board held a job fair in Virginia. Nothing too big there except that many of the businesses that were there for the job fair were only there because of money, grants, projects that were received through the stimulus.
Even, Joe "You lie" Wilson (R-South Carolina) despite voting against the stimulus has lauded the program while back in South Carolina.
Funny thing about this blatant act of hypocrisy, you will not hear a single Republican congressmen deny this because it is all right there in print (or more aptly on the computer screen) for everyone to see. Instead what they will do is simply ignore it and continue on the national scene decrying that the stimulus has not worked while at home declaring that the National Recovery Act has been instrumental in bringing jobs and money to their home districts.
Gotta love those Republicans they try so hard to talk out of both sides of their mouths and they just are not very good at it.
But it does bring up an old quote that Republicans and President Bush used ad nauseum during the 2004 election about John Kerry, "He was for the war before he was against it".
I guess in the case of televised meetings we can now say that Republicans were for transparency before they were against it and in the case of the stimulus Republicans were against the stimulus before they were for the National Recovery Act (yes just in case you missed it the stimulus and NRA are the exact same thing).
I have another item to discuss because I know that it will undeniably be brought up by a poster and that's the claim now that President Obama is saying that he supported the troop surge even though in 2007 as a Senator he is on tape saying that he did not support the surge, bringing back the saying that he was against the surge before he was for it.
Now that is a huge case of hypocrisy, is it not? Unfortunately, Obama has never said that he supported the surge. Vice-President Biden went on television and said that Iraq "could be one of the great achievements of this administration". Somehow out of that statement people have come to the conclusion that Obama was supportive of the surge. It is one heck of a stretch but hey that is politics.
Most do not agree with Biden's statement and I certainly do not. I just want our troops out of Iraq. If the Obama Administration wants a true achievement they need to finish the job in Afghanistan and get our troops out of that country. With the situation in Iraq and taking it from the much it was in to the situation we see today I do not think anyone but the actual troops that have been in Iraq since 2003 should get the credit. The politicians just need to stay away from any credit there because they screwed it up enough already.
This is a bit of an old story but I am sure that everyone remembers that when Obama vacationed in Hawai'i (which is original home state) Republicans chastized him heavily calling him an elitist that was out of touch with Americans, Michael Steele led this charge. The odd thing about the whole situation is that just a few months later the RNC held some meetings in the same state. No one on the Republican side seemed all that upset that the RNC would go to Hawai'i to do work that could easily have been done right in the RNC's home offices. It is blatantly hypocritical but I am as sure as the sun shines that a couple of my devoted posters will spin explain the difference but the truth is Republicans will opposes everything Obama does to the very end. If he came out today and proclaimed that sun rises in the east and sets in the west, Republicans would hold a press conference minutes later declaring the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.
Good times, good times.
How I completely forgot the other newsworthy hypocritical issues for Republicans that came out over the past couple of weeks I'll never know. But anyways let's get to them.
Everyone knows how Republicans have been up in arms about Paygo and Cap and Trade but what no one talks about is that both plans were originally Republican ideas that they trumpeted for years up until Obama said that they were good ideas. Now, all of a sudden, the same plans that Republicans thought up and heralded for years will now cost billions of dollars and cause too many people to lose their jobs.
Then there's Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security. Republicans haven been trying (for 50 years when it comes to Social Security) for years to get rid of these programs. The only time they show support for the programs is in election cycles until last year when all of a sudden the programs that they had been trying to kill became a political football for them and all of a sudden they pronounced that it was the Democrats that wanted to kill Medicare/Medicaid during the health care debate with cuts that would hurt senior citizens. Of course, it was nothing more than a lie as the only cuts that the programs would see would have been cutting the fat out of the programs which fiscal conservatives are always advocating. Last year, though they threw away their fiscal conservative ideologies to join the lie.
Now that we are in an election year you would think they would be fighting to save those programs again. Not so, in the past two weeks bills have been brought forward in committees to end both Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security. Unfortunately Democrats did not put a focus on the fact that last year Republicans were trying to "save" the very programs they are now trying to kill.
So once again just a few examples of Republicans either being for something before they were against it or against it before being for it.
Stay classy GOP.
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