Editorial

Colorado pot laws likely to affect Nebraska

Monday, December 30, 2013

Starting Wednesday, don't expect to visit a tanning salon if you're under 18 in Illinois.

Plan to show a photo ID when you vote in Arkansas, and expect to be able to play whatever high school sport and use whatever bathroom fits your "gender identity" in California.

New mothers can take their placentas home from the hospital, but don't smoke a cigarette with the baby in your car in Oregon or you'll get a ticket.

Minimum wages go up in Connecticut, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island, as well as nine other states automatically indexed to inflation.

Sixteen-year-olds will be able to pre-register to vote in Colorado, but it's another law that promises to make itself felt in Nebraska.

As of Wednesday, adult Colorado residents will be able to buy an ounce of marijuana for recreational use. Non-residents will be limited to a quarter-ounce, for those of you planning a trip across the border.

Don't expect to buy it in Greeley or Colorado Springs, which have banned legal stores, or to buy it if you're under 21, which is illegal. And, expect to pay a 25 percent state tax as well as the usual 2.9 percent sales tax, unless you have a prescription for medical marijuana, which is exempt from the higher tax on recreational pot.

Don't plan on smoking it in public, on the ski slopes, indoor places where regular smoking is banned, or in a private home, if you don't have permission by the owner of the property. You can also be busted for impaired driving, if your blood contains more than 5 nanograms of active THC, marijuana's active ingredient.

Why would a state legalize a drug seen as a gateway to other more dangerous substances?

The answer, as it often is, is money.

For one, proponents of legalized recreational pot say it will leave law enforcement, legal and jail resources free to deal with more serious crimes. Denver has decriminalized pot for people between 18 and 21, eliminating the jail time but keeping the fines.

Another answer is that 25 percent tax, which is expected to bring in $67 million the first year, $27.5 million designated to build schools.

Border states like Nebraska will see none of the supposed benefits, and will almost certainly bear the additional expense of enforcement of laws prohibiting marijuana that comes across state lines.

Proponents of legalized marijuana like to compare and contrast the problems caused by alcohol and tobacco, the two most popular recreational drugs ahead of marijuana.

We have to wonder whether legal pot shops will spring up along the border, becoming right-of-passage destinations for young people the way the bars serving 3.2 percent beer were in years past.

In the coming years, as the marijuana issue plays itself out, Nebraskans will be forced to decide whether to come down on the side of those who want to liberalize pot laws, those who want to keep them as they are, or somewhere in the middle.

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  • It is most likely that Nebraska will approve of marijuana sales. Not so much so that it is a good policy - but rather that it is no worse than alcohol sales - it being such that alcohol may be a worse drug.

    -- Posted by bob s on Mon, Dec 30, 2013, at 7:41 PM
  • Thousands of Nebraskans use marijuana every day. This illegal use generates cash flow. Currently, this cash flow is going to drug cartels. I'd like to see Nebraska take the same common sense approach as Colorado; legalize it, regulate it, tax it. I for one would rather this cash flow be utilized to build much needed new schools and roads in the Cornhusker state, not go into some drug lords back pocket. Illegal or not, this marijuana use has and will continue. New schools and roads, or drug cartels??

    -- Posted by regular guy on Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 4:50 AM
  • You do know that Nebraska is a 'decriminalized state'. First offense marijuana possession is a civil infraction akin to jaywalking.

    "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" ~ Joseph Goebbels

    Marijuana as a Gateway Drug - The Myth that Will Not Die (TIME Magazine)

    http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-w...

    There are widely publicized cases of people doing unspeakable things after ingesting synthetic drugs such as "spice" or "bath salts". These drugs are legal since no law exists prohibiting them. By the time lawmakers go through the process of making them illegal the manufacturer changes one molecule therefore it is legal again.

    Synthetic Drugs Are Multiplying Too Fast for Regulators to Outlaw Them (The Atlantic)

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/06/synthetic-drugs-are-mul...

    No amount of law will ever curb the demand. It creates a void which is being filled by unregulated, dangerous substances which can be purchased at the local gas station.

    Prohibition did not work the first time and it is not working now. It is doing much more harm than good.

    -- Posted by Diatheke on Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 10:05 AM
  • It will be interesting to see if the cash generated by pot sales will pay for the societal cost incurred by broken families and lower employee productivities. It is however a states rights issue, if you want to imbibe just move across the border. Chances are, you won't be missed.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 6:06 PM
  • Chunky Peanut Butter- Does the cash generated from alcohol sales pay for the cost incurred by broken families and lower employee productivity as a result of alcoholism? There are hundreds of thousands of examples of the results of alcoholism; broken families, drunk driving deaths, cirrhosis, etc., etc. Can you give me any documented results of broken families and lower productivity from marijuana use?

    -- Posted by regular guy on Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 8:17 PM
  • No. Sales of alcohol does not even come close paying for the wreckage of ruined lives. That is why I do not participate in such activity. If your own observations of drug use cannot convince you of the consequences of drug use, yes weed is a drug, then read this.

    http://www.ncjrs.gov/ondcppubs/publications/pdf/mj_rev.pdf

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 8:42 PM
  • Chunky Peanut Butter- I'm by no means promoting or condoning marijuana use. What I AM doing is asking Nebraskans to use common sense in regards to this matter. Let's not bury our heads in the sand on this issue.

    In regards to your link provided, it's from the federal government. You know, the same government that reaps billions of $$$ from tobacco and alcohol use. The federal government is perfectly O.K. with these drug addictions, evidently you are also?

    -- Posted by regular guy on Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 9:22 PM
  • I'm not sure how you got that I somehow support addictions, I don't. Being a former addict of alcohol, I know of it's destruction first hand. And yes, during that phase, I smoked weed. I do not support my nation capitalizing from those who are addicted. Common sense says stay away from it, it destroys lives. Common decency says to accept the reality of it's use.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 9:58 PM
  • Chunky Peanut Butter- I'm happy that you have your addiction under control.

    YOU provided the link to the federal government website, by providing this misinformation from the federal government, logic would only dictate you are in agreement with the federal government and their support of these two drug addictions.

    -- Posted by regular guy on Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 11:03 PM
  • Interesting. By providing facts on pot usage and it's dangers, I am supporting is use and supporting its addiction. Clearly that is not logic. Logic dictates to avoid its use.

    I will give you the opportunity to disprove my link.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Wed, Jan 1, 2014, at 8:00 AM
  • here's a good site for charts or statistics for the subject.http://www.people-press.org/2013/04/04/majority-now-supports-legalizing-marijuana/

    -- Posted by bob s on Wed, Jan 1, 2014, at 12:19 PM
  • The founders designed our government to fill two roles.

    1. Protect us from foreign enemies

    2. Protect us from one another

    The government was never intended to be a nanny state which tells its citizens what to drink, smoke, eat or think. Be careful what you wish for.

    -- Posted by Diatheke on Wed, Jan 1, 2014, at 4:08 PM
  • Let me start by saying "bath salts" are illegal in Nebraska now thankfully. As far as the societal costs of marijuana usage...somebody should actually do some studies on this because I feel the cost is minimal compared to the chaos caused by alcohol. And as far as broken families, back when I was young and I was a marijuana smoker, some days the only way my ex-husband (we were married then) and I could be in the same room together was if we were stoned so if a broken home results I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it was caused by something else besides weed smoking.

    I really feel this should be everybody's own personal choice! What people do in the privacy of their homes, without causing any harm to others, should be their own business!

    -- Posted by MzG on Thu, Jan 2, 2014, at 2:19 PM
  • I'd like to see marijuana legalized in Nebraska. I'm not saying I would start smoking it, I'm simply saying if marijuana becomes legal then in turn industrial hemp should also become legal, we as nebraskans should really be fighting for this so we can lead the hemp industry. It's a cash crop that, no joke has hundreds of different uses.

    The federal government knows they have been and are lieing to all of us for years, about the effects of marijuana. It's time for us as a nation to do the research and educate ourselves about the real benefits and harms of marijuana in all aspects, not just for getting high. Marijuana should be 100% legal on the federal level, let each state regulate on an individual basis.

    As for being looked at as a gateway drug, that's been disproven repeatedly, if there is a "gateway drug" it is more likely to be caffeine.

    If your worried about children and teens getting ahold of marijuana, how many kids or teens can walk into a bar and get served a beer? Now how many kids and teens can walk into a dealers home a purchase some pot and maybe some of the other drugs the dealer happens to suggest.

    Dealers don't check ids.

    Off our streets and into our stores where ids are checked.

    -- Posted by JRoberts on Thu, Jan 2, 2014, at 7:17 PM
  • Yep MzG, being stoned certainly kept you and your ex from facing the real issues that plagued you marriage. It does this to all users.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Thu, Jan 2, 2014, at 10:44 PM
  • Actually....we had stopped smoking marijuana 11 years before we actually separated and divorced. We were starting a family and didn't want to smoke marijuana. Maybe if we hadn't we would still be married. I'm sorry that your alcohol addiction destroyed your life but none of my marital problems stemmed from marijuana usage. If you ask me alcohol is a far more dangerous drug, with effects as severe as cocaine or heroin. I would rather they make alcohol illegal and make weed legal.

    -- Posted by MzG on Fri, Jan 3, 2014, at 10:28 AM
  • JRoberts.....I agree with you 100%. Nebraska farmers are the best in the world, and the hundreds of uses for hemp could be a real boon to all farmers in our state. A viable alternative crop with a demand already in place. I challenge anyone reading this to ask their family doctor on their next visit if cannabis is as dangerous a drug as heroin or cocaine because it's presently classified in the same category by the federal government!! Ridiculous.....

    -- Posted by regular guy on Fri, Jan 3, 2014, at 4:53 PM
  • Sadly, just like alcohol, children will still be able to get weed. Given the impaired nature of the user, whether adult or child, and the desire "to share" the experience, legalization is a loser. If our desire is tax revenues, then to hell with our politicians.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Sat, Jan 4, 2014, at 6:52 AM
  • What does anyone gain from marijuana being illegal?

    -- Posted by JRoberts on Sun, Jan 5, 2014, at 2:25 AM
  • Research indicates that long term users of pot have an eight point decline in their IQ. Thus a person with an average IQ of 100 would fall to being borderline below average.

    -- Posted by dennis on Tue, Jan 7, 2014, at 8:20 PM
  • Dennis what modern study are you referring too?http://healthland.time.com/2011/07/19/study-marijuana-not-linked-with-long-term-cognitive-impairment/ let's use research done within the last oh let's say 15 years. I no longer use marijuana in anyway, I barely even drink, but I do know "pot" does not make people's iq drop. I also know the high from smoking it is far less dangerous than being drunk.

    -- Posted by JRoberts on Tue, Jan 7, 2014, at 11:17 PM
  • Dennis - here is the link to your source.

    http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/15/new-research-questions-marijuanas-impact-i...

    Here is the quote in its entirety.

    "people who started using cannabis weekly before they turned 18 and continued to use heavily into adulthood lost an average of eight IQ points over that period."

    No one is advocating for teenage marijuana legalization. Unfortunately teens have easier access since its an illegal product. Pot dealers do not check ID's.

    -- Posted by Diatheke on Wed, Jan 8, 2014, at 1:50 PM
  • This was a long term study, so the data includes observation from 15 years to present. Any scientific proof pot has a less effect than alcohol on driving? Access to teens will increase with legalization.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Thu, Jan 9, 2014, at 7:11 AM
  • Who is most likely to start using legal marijuana?

    http://www.theatlantic.com/events/archive/2013/07/if-marijuana-is-legalized-who-...

    while I feel both should never happen, here is a study for you high vs drunk driving http://kdvr.com/2012/05/17/web-poll-driving-high-vs-driving-drunk/

    -- Posted by JRoberts on Fri, Jan 10, 2014, at 10:31 AM
  • I would like to invite all of you to http:// www.facebook.com/groups/246091808901201/ it's an open Facebook marijuana legalization debate group.

    -- Posted by JRoberts on Sat, Jan 11, 2014, at 12:33 AM
  • JR, you seem to be reaching deep. Not a scientific study but rather a news opinion. Colorado's real concern right now is the drug cartels presence in the state, they are not just rolling over and allowing the state to take their business away. Some head shops are even wanting to apply for carry permits, a violation of the law.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Sat, Jan 11, 2014, at 2:23 PM
  • I'm reaching deep? No I'm looking to the future. I simply shared a study conducted in a controlled manner under the supervision of law enforcement. I also stated I don't want anyone who isn't sober behind the wheel. Chunky I openly welcome your challenges, but you need to be able to admit facts as they are shown. Just so you know, I don't want legalization for me to get high, I'm more about industrial hemp. There are so many uses. Nebraska would gain a massive upper hand if we could get it legalized. I don't want minors drinking or smoking. I don't want non sober people driving. I don't want criminals making money the state could be making. I don't want people who choose to use pot to not know what may or may not have been added to their purchase by a criminal. I'm tired of police being tied up by being forced to enforce a failure of prohibition. I'd like to see police have more time and funding to go after the meth Labs we all know are around. Prohibition of alcohol failed just as its failing against marijuana. Feel free to attempt to argue against any of this. I'm sorry your still believing the lies from the past. It's not too late to educate yourself with truth. The nebraskan economy could get a massive boost from industrial hemp, but we all need to push for it before other states figure it out too.

    -- Posted by JRoberts on Sun, Jan 12, 2014, at 12:24 AM
  • Then why did you attempt to justify it's use by comparing it's impairment affect to alcohol while driving? I am not against legalization, I am all for choice. But what I do see is the forces for legalization making up real lies to encourage it's use. The information I use is current and it does prove the harmful effects of long term pot usage.

    As for the agricultural benefits, it's a small niche market at best. Cosmetics, shopping bags, and household twines at best. Very small hobby farmers could possibly profit from it, I'm all for that.

    I agree with you, cops are there to enforce laws. Some of those laws include dealing with impared drivers, drunk and stoned drivers alike, and right now, weed is illegal. Don't want to get busted, don't carry it around.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Sun, Jan 12, 2014, at 8:04 AM
  • Actually Chunky you asked the question about impaired driving. I simply stated that I know for me being high is safer than being drunk. I don't use marijuana anymore, and I drink maybe a couple times a year. We all know getting drunk is dangerous, and yet I don't see people trying to outlaw it again, as we know what happened.

    Industrial hemp wouldn't be a "niche" market if marijuana became legal. I see you lack education is this area. http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&site=&source=hp&ei=HDnUUv_UG4aqyQG-0oHQCA&... please educate yourself. I've proved you a link of a search for industrial hemp uses. Check out hemp Crete,

    Hemp plastics, hemp insulation,

    Hemp paper vs wood pulp paper, hemp seed as food, hemp used in the automotive industry. It is a growing industry that nebraska could set the bar. Ethanol made from corn I know you know about that, now learn about it made from hemp.

    -- Posted by JRoberts on Mon, Jan 13, 2014, at 1:14 PM
  • It's funny to see all the skeptics cite the government funded studies. This is the same government that allows big companies like Monsanto to allow food processors/producers to load up our food supply with all sorts of unimaginable chemicals that are basically banned all over the rest of the modern world. This is the same government that is run by people who push legislation in favor of the company with the most money. I can go on and on and on about that.

    Now, if any of you would like to do some history studies on cannabis, you'll find that the states began banning it because the drug was coming from Mexican immigrants and the ban was fueled by anecdotal observations and racism......not science.

    Look at your drug lobby. Look at what happened in 2004 with the prescription drug program Bush signed into law. Anyone that really wants to see how our government works can look no further than that debacle and how it gave the drug companies a monopoly on our medicine so that a few congressman could get some sweet @$$ jobs when they retired from government. The drug lobby is spending billion$ to keep the competition out and you in the poor house! You think they want cannabis out there? It has proven to help people with severe forms of epilepsy and cerebral palsy among many other things.

    You don't think an alcohol abuser loses a few IQ over his lifetime? I know he's losing brain cells.

    Everyone is going to have addictions of some kind. Cannabis is proven to have no physical addiction....alcohol and nicotine do. Gateway drug? There are already millions of Americans smoking weed so maybe alcohol was the gateway drug!

    This is coming, and when it all settles down, this is going to be no different than someone drinking in their own home. As long as you do it responsibly it will only cut down on crime and pump money into the economy.

    -- Posted by Justin76 on Tue, Jan 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM
  • Thankfully Justin Bieber was found to have THC in his system along with alcohol and other stuff. That weed my very well have saved lives.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Fri, Jan 24, 2014, at 11:41 AM
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