Letter to the Editor

Need to start over

Thursday, October 21, 2010

Dear Editor,

Every single one of the 40 city employees who would work at the proposed 51⁄2 million dollar municipal facility voluntarily applied for their job.

They saw where they would be working! They are paid more than average.

They pay peanuts for a health care package that costs McCook taxpayers on average $12,000 per year per employee and is better than 95 percent of us can afford. It's virtually impossible to get fired so getting their "longevity" pay raise is easy.

Now we are being asked by those 40 folks to spend approximately $130,000. each to provide a work place that meets their every wish and whim. (Go tell your boss that's what you want) If they don't like their workplace, they can quit.

We are told this venture into government waste will not raise taxes. This project will increase prisoner-related costs for the county. They will be forced to raise our taxes. Directly or indirectly doesn't matter, we will pay more taxes.

In addition to being simply lovely for 40 city employees, we are told this facility will benefit all of us for years. I don't think if you have business at the cop shop, nice surroundings will turn it into a pleasant experience. I don't think a new city hall will make paying my ever.-increasing water bill really enjoyable. It bothers me when the planned office for apart-time building inspector will be larger than my banker's.

It will not create a single private-sector job or motivate a single business to locate in McCook. I can't see how it will make life better for Joe Average.

We need to defeat this proposal, step back, take a deep breath and get to work on a firehouse we can afford.

The playing field is not level! If you count to total number of city employees, their spouses, relatives, yes-men and brown-nosers, I estimate they have 600 votes in the bag.

If you want to re-use West Ward, you must vote no. If you work for the county and are tired of being pushed around by city hall, you must vote no. If you believe there is a more reasonable solution, you must vote no. Be involved, get out the no vote.

"Nuff Said"

Bill Frasier


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  • Wolf! Wolf the little boy cried. But there was no wolf. And when the wolf really came nobody was listening.

    -- Posted by dennis on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 3:40 PM
  • The bond is paid by a bond backed by sales tax and will be paid off in seven years so your $130,000 number is voodoo math at its best. Anyone with a logical mind knows that they won't be paying $130,000 over the next 7 years for this facility. They'll be paying the same sales tax they have been paying.

    If you believe there is a more reasonable solution then were you at the council meetings making those suggestions when all options were being discussed months ago?

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 5:48 PM
  • Dennis,

    I have to say... No truer words have been written!

    I think nuff was yelling in his posting.... Maybe because he had to in order to be heard at the City Council meeting as he was no-where within ears reach.


    Could you please tell me where you got the notion that this new facility was the mind child of 40 employees? Further, could you name the employees that you can confirm, not speculate on, but confirm, "asked for the new office"? (It's only fair to those that didn't ask for it to have their names cleared)

    This isn't about the employees comforts..... This is about maintaining public facilities. If we let them go into a state of disrepair HOW will it be cheaper later down the line to bring the facilities up to code? The current offices are already not ADA friendly and I won't even start on the Emergency Response Center.

    I see you bit on the "increased county tax obligation" angle. Will you tell us Bill, how often does the County use the existing holding cells now? You're throwing out your facts again but I would like you to substanciate your claim on this. I have come to understand that the County opts to transport prisoners to alternate counties right now, if this is true then what additional expenses will the County realize? By the way, that IS a county issue, you make it appear as though the City of McCook is the bad guy here. The City has worked with the County, helped the county, and because we've all become accustomed to the light cost burden arrangement that's been going on for years, we have taken that convienience for granted, BUT why is the city to blame here?

    I try not to get negative Bill, but putting off this cost so YOU don't have to face it is just outright selfish. Again, this is about McCook staying on top of the facilities. When they get to a point that they need to be replaced, then they need to be replaced, its that simple.

    Will the new office bring business in? NO! Will a delapidated office, not up to todays codes deture business? YES! Our City's infrastructure, parks, streets, health-care facilities and businesses are what new businesses look at. If their 1st impression is "The town is in disrepair", what are the odds that they will stick around long enough to meet all the good people and opportunities in McCook and surrounding communities? Slim. This is a package deal.... We can't just buy a steering wheel without the car and expect to get somewhere, likewise we can't just buy a new City Office and Emergency Response Center and think we're done. This should be an addition to our ongoing efforts to flourish.

    I'm not asking you to think outside the box... I'm asking you to think beond your nose.

    If you want to keep McCook from staying up with the times... Vote no

    If you don't mind investing in your own community not for today, but for the future.... VOTE YES (for the things that will help grow McCook not just the new facility.... But on the important things required to stay on a positive path)

    -- Posted by PensiveObserver on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 5:55 PM
  • It seems to me that Mr. Bill is confused on this issue...or maybe I am. Did I not hear right that regardless of what happens with McCook's bond issue for the new safety center West Ward is being demolished? Seems Mr. Bill thinks a no vote for the bond is a yes vote to keep West Ward??? Of course, he has all the facts and I'm just going off of what I read in your daily newspaper. One other thing. I was talking to an old friend of mine back home and he thought that both the public safety center (old power company) and the West Ward school were close to the same age. Could the public safety center be a historic building? If I were one of the 40 employees that Mr. Bill is referring to, I would go trick or treating on his front door step on October 31st. See if he really knows who those 40 employees are. My guess is that he gives them all candy anyway.

    -- Posted by McCook Supporter on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 6:51 PM
  • It sounds like Mr. Frasier is envious of those 40 employees to me. He seems to be attacking these guys like they are demanding better working conditions. Is there some kind of strike going on there or what? I havent heard of any uprising.

    I'm new to the area, relativly speeking and I might have missed what brought this about. Angry employees then?

    -- Posted by Nick Mercy on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 8:20 PM
  • I'm not a city employee. But I am very much for this facility.

    I'd like the fire department to be able to get out the proper equipment if I have a fire, accident or the like. I'd like the police department to be able to respond if there is someone strange in my neighborhood, have an accident or need their services for anything. This facility is not for the employees!!!! Yes they work there, but they have not asked for it. They need it because the facilities are just short of falling down right now. Get with it Bill!!!!

    I will most definitely be voting YES. As I hope most everyone will to when thinking of this in a sensible manner.

    -- Posted by susanne_1989 on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 9:53 PM
  • West Ward is an eye sore and frankly a waste of a whole city block, and from what my eyes see, it is being torn down as we speak. I just want to know what the current ERC will be used as? Will it just sit there vacant and become the next big issue? Or is it in the budget to tear it down?

    -- Posted by youngneighbor on Fri, Oct 22, 2010, at 10:03 AM
  • Great post Pensive.

    Young Neighbor, the city manager at the last meeting stated that as of then no concrete plans have or could be made because the vote had not yet been taken. He indicated that there were possibilities for a sale but could not say at that time.

    Nick Mercy, yes I do think nuff is jealous. Why else would he go on about pay and benefits, yes they have a decent package. I for one was less than happy with the original percentage of a raise that was first proposed. At least a more sensible rate was adopted. Good old nuff had the same opportunity to apply for a job with the city and go to work for all the pay and benefits as the present employees did. Don't set there and blast the workers for working there, just because past city councils and managers have failed at upkeep of the present buildings. Now we have to spend a lot money to make up for their failures.

    At the last meeting there were employees there and they explained the conditions that are present at the cop shop and fire station. Not one of them, (in my opinion) was complaining, they were there to tell the people what they had now, and how it made their jobs more difficult etc. Not one of them were asking for pie in the sky offices etc. I took more away from that meeting by listening to the "scheduled" employees and not from the managers(chiefs etc.)

    One idiot on the radio this morning was carrying on about a Taj Mahal that the city wants to build, not so, it looked very basic to me. He also indicated that there were "codes" in the blue prints etc....must be some good stuff he's a smokin'!

    Nuff you say you want to "save money".

    Ok so we step back, take a breath, and wait to build. In the mean time the city uses the 1.5 million they have set aside, and throw it at an old run down building that will in a few years need to be replaced anyway. 1.5 million wasted.

    Wait and then have new plans etc. done for a smaller building for the fire station only. How much will those new plans cost the taxpayers you are so concerned with? How many thousands there?

    Then in a few years build a new cop shop, when costs are higher all the way around, get less building for more money? How will that save us money? Use West Ward?, sorry charlie, oops I mean 'nuff, the old barn is history, so to say, past history. How many more studies etc. do you want? How many thousands more do you want to waste there? Seems like your idea of waiting will cost us a lot more money in the long run.

    Suanne you make a good point, if the fire station stays at the present location, one of the fire trucks will be moved to the "station" at the airport, so if that equipment should be needed to fight a fire, someone will have to go out there and get it, delaying the response time to the fire. I do not want any delay if I need them to fight a fire at my home!

    Again let all the save "waste ward" people want to save the old barn, cough up the bucks and buy it and put it back on the tax rolls! Help bring down our property taxes when they have to pay taxes on it, but I'm sure they would want an exemption!

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Fri, Oct 22, 2010, at 5:31 PM
  • "Waste Ward" How did that take so long to be coined? Nice one Wondering.

    -- Posted by Nick Mercy on Fri, Oct 22, 2010, at 8:16 PM
  • I have seen the concern in relation to the Building Inspector's apparently "oversized" office in a few postings. If the office is large, I assure you, it was not the Building Inspector that requested it. He is almost as frugal as some "wait till later" citizens around McCook. His office does, however require the adequate space to roll out full size prints which can be as large as 32" X 84" when laid out. That requires more than his current desk which also houses his computer, printer, keyboard, and last I saw about 7 sets of blue prints rolled up.

    His job is not truly part time and he can be working on several projects at once which means he needs immediate access to not only the prints but spec books, as well as his own code books. I can certainly see the advantage of a waiting area outside of the Building Inspector's office. I have, on occasion had to wait in line to conference with him as have others and I feel it's important to have a degree of confidentiality while discussing business.

    As for the "wish and whim" administrative offices, I believe one might have to get into the blue print "interior elevations" section to truly find details on that......... I haven't seen that print sheet published so I must wonder how Mr. Frasier feels justified posting that the proposed facility will offer wishes and whim amenities, speculation perhaps.

    From what I have seen, the proposed facility although not in its final stage of planning, looks to be on the less than lavish end of the spectrum. This building will outlast me so I would hope to think that it wouldn't take on the appearance of a metal building in the end. Give it a more permanent facade at least, to project the image of professionalism. And while it's in the planning stage, a bit of room for expansion now will save money later when the need for expansion presents itself. I'm not a designer nor do I proclaim to be so I'll leave that to the people in the know, should the vote pass to construct the facility.

    My point is this: In today's World, things have taken on an "Excel or Go Stale" precept. If we as a Community (including our neighboring towns) intend to excel, we will need to be willing to expand. Expand our minds, our ideas, our comfort zones and of course the physical aspect of our community. If we build, build well so we can move on to the next item of concern (parks, infrastructure, and streets) without having the need to go back and redo something that we have already done. When we get done with a project, mark it off the list of things to do. Sure they'll need to be redone someday, but let's get this done so generations can use what we have accomplished, not just administrations.

    We ARE Southwest Nebraska (McCook AS WELL AS the surrounding communities). Because of our nationally centralized location, low cost of living and operations, and of course the good willed and dedicated people of Southwest Nebraska, we have the opportunity prosper. We must press on not haphazardly but in an organized and methodical fashion, not half way but with passion and confidence. The generations of families that call Southwest Nebraska "Home", depend on each other for their necessities. McCook is the hub for communities in Southwest Nebraska, this is more than a new City Hall, it's an obligation we have to ourselves to keep Southwest Nebraska progressive..... If not, we'll go stale.

    (I apologize for monologueing at the end there, but it just doesn't seem right not to give 110% to the prospect of a Great Future.)

    -- Posted by PensiveObserver on Sat, Oct 23, 2010, at 12:12 AM
  • Nice people! What did Bill say that wasn't true, and if not explain why? Why insult him when he expresses valid concerns that a lot of people feel? And Dennis, you are our Major, act like one!

    -- Posted by remington81 on Sun, Oct 24, 2010, at 7:55 PM
  • Crap mayor! Guess I'll hear about that.

    -- Posted by remington81 on Sun, Oct 24, 2010, at 8:06 PM
  • Alright remington,

    1. "now we're being asked by those 40 folks to spend approximately $130,000 each" (That's not MY responsibility to validate, it's Bills. He is the one saying that these employees asked for it.... I asked him to call them out by name so those that didn't ask for it weren't lumped into that category.)

    2. "offices of every wish and whim" (The published plans for the facility were preliminary at best and I don't believe I saw a Blue Print Interior Elevations page published which would show the details of the offices. Speculation shouldn't be considered truth.)

    3. "If you want to re-use West Ward you must vote no" (That's misleading. A vote no won't save West Ward. )

    4. "They are being paid more than average" {City Employees} (To begin with, what average are we talking about here? I'm not saying Bill is wrong..... He might be saying that the McCook City Employees are being paid better than the average sweatshop worker in South America. He doesn't specify therefore he can't be called out on that; however, if he is referring to the average wage of City workers in Nebraska or the United States, for cities of similar size and demographics, are they? Again, it's up to him to substantiate that claim not mine. In the end though, that statement has as much to do with the building of the new facility as the price of tea in China)

    5. "increase prisoner related costs for the county" (I understand that the County opts to frequently transport prisoners to other counties rather than keep them in the existing holding cells. If this is the case then what additional costs will be realized? If the County was concerned about increased budgetary costs due to the new facility, why haven't we heard from them I wonder? If I were faced with an unexpected budget item I believe I would be addressing that problem sooner than later.)

    What you are about to read is ONLY an opinion, BUT I am not stating it as if it were fact.....(unlike some other posters) I feel that our current Mayor a very good mayor. Plenty of area mayors have taken on the "wait til later" motto, and there are plenty of area communities that have deteriorated beyond the point of recovery. Tell me that McCook isn't looking better now than it has for a long time. Go ahead and argue that the infrastructure isn't in better shape overall now than it has been for years. Tell me that the parks and streets aren't in the best shape that they've been in for the past several generations.

    Those of you that want to put off the repairs and improvements until they don't affect your own pocket books are simply looking out for yourselves then proclaiming that it's all about the Citizens of McCook. Progress is more expensive than passiveness but I'm not willing to let our City "Pass Away"

    Dennis is doing a fine job as Mayor and no Bill.... I'm not a City Employee. I am a citizen that wishes to see the City that I call Home, thrive and be a place to be proud of. I'm not looking to delay expenses until I don't have to foot them.

    After all that..... I didn't call anyone names..... (Crap mayor?) Really? My logic is driven NOT by emotion, I would just like validation of facts when they are tossed around recklessly.

    -- Posted by PensiveObserver on Sun, Oct 24, 2010, at 11:21 PM
  • Remington, just a couple of questions.

    1.What gives you the right to call the mayor crap?

    You say that people are insulting ol'nuff said, what in the devil do you call "crap mayor"?

    2. How do you know that the person that signs his post as Dennis, is truly our mayor?

    I have thought perhaps this person that signs as Dennis might be our mayor, but why would a person of Mr. Berry's position in the school system and also being the mayor get on a blog such as this and make posts as this Dennis does? I am not sure if he(she) is or is not, but just to assume it is the mayor by his(her) signature line is flawed as far as I'm concerned.

    I think pensive has answered your question about what is true or not true in 'nuff's forum.

    Of course I'm sure 'nuff thinks he is correct but I think he is wrong and very jealous of city employees and their benefits. Again I call on him to run for city council since he feels he has all the answers. Same goes for Mr. (secret codes in the blueprints) Neiman.

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 12:49 AM
  • Wondering I spelt mayor major. you people like to jump anytime we miss spell. Just correcting myself. Guess you were not bright enough to pick that up.

    -- Posted by remington81 on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM

    -- Posted by remington81 on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 8:36 PM
  • Crap wondering70! Guess I'll hear about that.

    -- Posted by remington81 on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 8:39 PM
  • remington,

    You did hear about that! Not the way you thought though.... I see the mistake and NOW that makes more sense. "Crap Mayor" you meant Crap! Mayor.

    -- Posted by PensiveObserver on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 9:27 PM
  • Yeah, that's an amusing Freudian slip. Is that really what happened or are you backing out of that comment?

    Thats too funny

    -- Posted by Nick Mercy on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 9:31 PM
  • A little punctuation would help, Remington.

    Such as:

    Crap! wondering70! Guess I'll hear about that.

    or was your 2nd try at crap meant a different way?

    What do you say Crap remington81? Does make a difference where you place your crap, exclamation points, commas etc., doesn't it?

    Do you have proof that the posts are from the mayor? Did he personally tell you that he made the posts? I thougth that posts were anonymous.

    A decent turnout tonight at the council meeting, I was hoping that good old nuff said would attend and voice his objections and personally voice his accusations face to face with the many employees that attended. nuff said.

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 9:57 PM
  • you got me there wondering. and by the way, dennis has even stated in previous comments that he is the major. Even the other people here know that.

    -- Posted by remington81 on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 10:23 PM
  • Major? Do you mean Mayor? DUH!

    -- Posted by McCook Supporter on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 9:45 AM
  • And I'm the Governor, does that make it true?

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Tue, Oct 26, 2010, at 7:10 PM
  • Dennis also made a comment about his Cancer Treatment in Omaha or Lincoln (I forget which city/hospital it was.) It was also the same hospital mentioned in the original Gazette article about his cancer.

    I have yet to really see anything point that it is an impostor mayor and not the mayor himself.

    I guess at that rate, how do we know that when Owen Mcphillips (spelling) posts it is the police officer.

    Or when Virginia posts it is really Dicks Sister.

    I guess at some point online, you have to realize not everyone is out to screw with everyone's mind and people who type their real names usually are that real person.

    -- Posted by npwinder on Wed, Oct 27, 2010, at 6:00 PM
  • your right wondering70 or are you really a *******?

    -- Posted by remington81 on Wed, Oct 27, 2010, at 10:53 PM
  • *

    Just an observation - but PO's lenghty and numbered post could have been avoided - PO merely put the onus back on the original poster and didn't make much in the way of forward progress in answering any questions at all.

    I found out just this morning that the city jail facility cannot be assumed as is by the county without a major overhaul of the facility. This overhaul would be necessary to bring the facility into compliance with the state. The overhaul would also mostly be a band-aid as there is no practical way to stay ahead of the changing compliance standards. St. Catherine's anyone?

    -- Posted by Mickel on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 4:32 PM
  • Mickel,

    I believe that you are referring to the current holding cells needing an overhaul IF they are to be used as a "Jail". That's true... not the least of upgrades needed would be an exercise/ recreation area just as an example. If that is the case then it certainly would be a backward step. What I was driving at... and rather clearly I thought, was that the current Holding Cells, COULD be used as "Holding Cells" without the "major overhaul", which is to say that they would only be able to house a prisoner for less than 96 hours. Any extended stay prisoner would have to be sent to an actual "Jail". The percentage of "less than 96 hr detainees, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, is in the upper 80 to lower 90 percentile of prisoners held by Red Willow County. A majority count.

    By the way, if Red Willow County doesn't send so much as 1 prisoner to Hitchcock County all year, under the current arrangement we (Red Willow County) would still have to pay Hitchcock Co. somewhere in the range of $300,000.00. I collected this information from an official connected to the local law enforcement and the numbers MUST be public record. As always though, if I am verifiably wrong, let me know.

    Ultimately though, my point is this: What extra costs would be involved IF the County decides to NOT use the McCook Holding Cells instead of their current arrangement of rarely using the McCook Holding Cells? They pay that $300,000.00 +/- fee regardless.

    -- Posted by PensiveObserver on Fri, Oct 29, 2010, at 10:43 PM
  • *

    So in a nutshell...We pay 300k for our prisoners a year (holding in Hitchcock co) plus transportation and manhours (25 miles - rounded up - round trip and about 45 minutes per transfer @ whatever a Deputy makes)

    Let's just say that your 10% to 20% of prisoners needing more than 96 hours of holding is 100% accurate. Then lets say that round trip costs $3 in gas, and $20 in pay. Lets say 100 prisoners per year are transported 5 times each. That's 500 trips for about $1500 in gas and $7500 in wages added to 300k for a total of $309,000 a year in jail costs.

    Pretty cheap if you ask me. I bet Lincoln county would jump at that.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Sat, Oct 30, 2010, at 5:19 PM
  • Mickel,

    Yes, do let's say..... then THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER EXPENSES TO THE COUNTY! That's my point, no more, no less.... THAT'S IT. I'd post this in crayons for you but it's a text document so that's not an option. What is it about my post that agitates you? I called out the untruths, OR the speculation of the original poster. That was what was asked of me to do by remington81: "What did Bill say that wasn't true, and if not explain why?"

    -- Posted by Nick Mercy on Sat, Oct 30, 2010, at 11:45 PM
  • Nick, I think that Mickel is referring to MY statement, but your response is appropriate. I DID answer the questions asked and Mickel, I apologize for the lengthy post but the more false or misleading statements there are to contest, the lengthier the response.... and Bill had a LOT of statements there. (as you can see, many needed to be addressed in regard to the validity of his..... [facts +/-.]

    -- Posted by PensiveObserver on Sun, Oct 31, 2010, at 10:46 AM
  • Oh Remington, I have many names I could toss at you, but I will not lower myself to such "crap".

    A word you just love to use.

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Mon, Nov 1, 2010, at 5:08 PM
  • Another point that many on this site seem to be forgetting.

    The city will be pouring 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS into a pit, if the new building vote fails.

    Seems like that would be the real waste of money, not the real or not additional costs of transporting the "perps" (as Mr. Dick calls 'em)to Trenton, to use the cells that Red Willow County is paying for whether they are used or not!

    Time for RW County to renegotiate a better deal or build a new jail, they have been "rat-holing" money for a new jail for years anyway.

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Mon, Nov 1, 2010, at 5:18 PM
  • To Mr. Nuff said .. please dont let the door hit your poopy pants and push that stuff in them into your brain anymore because your rants are getting boring. You may have to thinks other ways of living off the rest of the taxpayers in McCook for nothing so you dont have to pay for capital imporvements to the City that supports you ???

    -- Posted by Cornwhisperer on Tue, Nov 2, 2010, at 3:31 PM
  • Mickel,

    I read back on your post, I don't think you read MY post correctly. I said that I verified that the average TOTAL prisoners taken to Hitchcock County is 7.5 per month currently. My math shows a TOTAL (both extended stay as well as under 96 hours) of 90 prisoners transported annually. According to your figures, each of the 100 prisoners would be transported 5 times? I think probably if anything it would be either 4 or 6 unless they take them back up on the 5th trip and leave them there, never mind that for now because it's immaterial to my point. My point is:

    If everyone is elated with, your said, $309,000.00 annual fee, PROBLEM SOLVED let's just keep on doing what we are, and change nothing. No further expenses to the County, and our prisoners are housed safely and fed well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For arguments sake though, if we want to sell your point, then we need to add the few prisoners that are held in the current holding cells, let's say that there are a cool 1000 or just less than 3 prisoners a day, the cost as per your calculations for these prisoners with (5?) trips each is 5000 trips at $23.00 per trip, would total $115,000.00. Is $424,000.00 too much or still a bargain to Lincoln Co? I'm sure it is also a bargain to Buffalo Co. and Cass Co., but then they don't have 7.5 prisoners a month either. Your comparison is like saying that the guy with 8 children would jump at the chance to have the grocery bill of the guy with 1 child. Random numbers, which takes us back to my original post....... SUBSTANCIATE YOUR CLAIMS, Nothing gets solved by throwing out random numbers and facts and I feel that if you put out (facts +/-) you should be accountable for that information or SOMEONE might just consider them facts. I called out the questionable statements and requested accountability.

    -- Posted by Nick Mercy on Tue, Nov 2, 2010, at 7:31 PM
  • Nick,

    I'm not so sure that we're on the same opinion page here. Where did you comment on this? I'd like to find that article because you didn't really have a post about "Substantiate your claims", so far as I can see.

    -- Posted by PensiveObserver on Tue, Nov 2, 2010, at 10:39 PM
  • Huh, it must have been taken off. (?) it wasn't even mean.

    -- Posted by Nick Mercy on Tue, Nov 2, 2010, at 11:16 PM
  • This is just one of the many ridiculous rants I have read on here- and I mean the entire piece. Is it impossible for adults, and I'm hoping they are adults,to stay on subject and not resort to name-calling or insults? Pretending that you are only quoting or referencing someone else's words does not negate your responsibility for using them. If you do not behave as an adult should , then don't be surprised when the people you surround yourselves with act in a similar fashion.

    -- Posted by mommily on Wed, Nov 3, 2010, at 6:38 PM
  • Mommily,

    Are you calling us immature? (just a joke in the theme of name calling)

    -- Posted by Nick Mercy on Mon, Nov 8, 2010, at 9:30 PM
  • Just stating my opinion. And in answer to a previous question as to why i use the name Mommily- my parents were unable to care for my little sister and she came to live with my husband and i when she was 5. She said being with us was the first time she had a mom or family and she combined the two words and started calling me mommily.I like it and i will continue to use it.

    -- Posted by mommily on Thu, Nov 11, 2010, at 8:27 PM
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