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Wallismarsh

Friday, February 12, 2010

I've been writing this column for 12 years now and I don't suppose I've ever been as incensed as I was over an anonymous posting this past week by the person who used the handle mentioned in the title of this column.

The last time I thought what someone wrote merited a response was from the ignorant Sheriff in northeast Nebraska who thought he knew what MADD stood for when he didn't and that he DIDN'T know how the DUI laws are significantly impacted by that strong interest group's perspective. I told him so in this newspaper and he never responded because he knew I was right and he was wrong. But at least I knew who he was.

This is worse. Wallismarsh commented on last week's column on Drugs and Doctors by saying this in conclusion:

"You Democrats will continue to blame people that add value to our lives because for what ever reason you have declared them your enemy."

Last week's column was about bad drugs and bad doctors and everyone in the world admits that we have both. It wasn't an indictment of most of the doctors or most of the drugs in the world, only those that aren't up to standard.

And yet, Wallismarsh, using a screen name, obviously either didn't read the whole column or just took the snippets he didn't like and criticized those. This is what happens when anonymous posts are allowed.

When my column appears in this newspaper, my name and picture are also displayed. Not my "handle" but my real name. Not a picture of someone or something else but a picture of me. And because of that, these "fly by night" commentators can take pot shots at those who identify ourselves without identifying THEMSELVES.

It's a failing of the newspaper business in an attempt to simply stay alive and I suppose I understand that. But the newspaper ought to exercise some oversight in terms of what is said and who says it and so far, I've failed to see that oversight.

I joined the Tulsa Police Department when I was 21 years old. In the first three months of my training, I learned how to kill a person three different ways with a punch, a jab, or a hold. In the six years I served, I saw more tragedies, more dead and mangled bodies, and more public outrages than you could see in a hundred lifetimes. I saw the belly of the Devil. I saw how heartless, thoughtless, and ruthless people could be. I saw how one man could kill another man (or woman) without any thought at all except that right then, they wanted them dead.

I gave up that life and turned to college teaching and I've done that for the past 30 years. In my classes at MCC we talk about these things in a logical, coherent way and those who object to my perspectives are always allowed to do so and sometimes that happens. But when they do, I know who they are and their grade never suffers because they do. In fact, I welcome a free and open debate between my students and me because that's what Higher Education is all about.

But not so in today's world of media. Anyone can say anything without any attribution at all. They can say anything anonymously. They can dig, berate, tear down and criticize without anyone else ever knowing who they are.

Wallismarsh knows that I did not declare all drugs and all doctors to be my enemy in the column I wrote. And he surely knows that not all Democrats believe the same as I do. But that's the broad brush he used in criticizing my column without identifying himself.

I've seen life on the street. I've fought the battles. I've been at the other end of broken bottles, knives, and guns. And even in those life and death encounters, I've never met anyone as cowardly as someone who won't sign his own name.

You know who I am, what I look like , most likely the car I drive and probably where I live. And I know nothing about you. It's easy to take pot shots at someone behind the anonymous shield you create for yourself.

I would hope in future responses to my column that I can know who my critics are, just like you know who I am so I can do the same to you that you do to me.

Until then, I will no longer engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person.


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Mike do your homework. Doesn't take much effort.

http://www.mccook2010.com/class_profile....

http://www.extex.net/team.html

I suggest you pull this column.

-- Posted by BuffRoam on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 2:46 PM

HaHa,ya i'd pull the column. You may want to grow a back bone too!

-- Posted by remington81 on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 4:18 PM

GIVE THEM HELL MIKE!!!!

This forum has become a haven for ignorant bullies. I had to quit reading the blogs because I became so upset at the intimidation the truly ignorant put out in this paper. I wish the Gazett would inforce their rules!!!

Karen Hamburger Hastings Ne.

(See I signed my name!!!!)

-- Posted by kaygee on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 4:34 PM

It is best not to criticize Mike.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 8:06 PM

I am sorry that I have offended you and your son.

I will no longer post.

Wallis Marsh aka:wallismarsh

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 8:33 PM

Mike, I'm sure you know who I am by the way I write and my attitude. We've had many discussions and been on opposite sides of the fence, even in your class. I agree that there are bad doctors and bad drugs. You can even find some of them in VA facilities.

With regard to the comment about Democrats, Republicans are part of the problem as well. I for one am sick of the Right Wing Religious Nuts in the Republican Party who want to turn America into a church state like the Jews and Muslims have. I'm also sick of the Left Wing Nuts like Pelosi and Reid who want to turn this into a Socialist state.

Palin is like the froth on beer, nice to look at but doesn't count for much and McCain couldn't have been thinking clearly when he chose her for a running mate.

Sen Nelson is center of the road and tries to do what's right, even if he has to jump party lines to do so. Too bad we don't have more like him and fewer of the other kind. The country would be in better shape, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm confused by one thing tho, why is there a picture of Patton on this? He died in 1945 in a car wreck in Germany and I haven't heard of his like since.

-- Posted by old grouch on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 7:25 AM

Keep posting Wallis. Freedom of the press is a right.

-- Posted by edwardmarsh on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 9:07 AM

Mike, I bet you didn't realize you used Wallis's name to impune him to everyone who reads the print version.

Maybe you should know this stuff before you go an a rant.

I bet you'd be real surpised to know some facts about the Marsh family. They're not the type of family that you progressives like to hear about. They come from humble beginings and have found much success through hard work and sacrifice. There was no government funded committee to figure out how to hand them success.

Also, I've been impuned by little Mike so many times I can't count, simply because I'm not a progressive, government-loving dolt. He's gone so far as to call me a racist because I implied that Obama will be subservient to Nancy Pelosi and her policies. I didn't see you coming to my defense over the absolute disrespect and slander that happened there!

It seems that these people can sure dish out the disrespect and vitriol, but when it comes back it's a whole different ballgame, with a whole different set of rules.

Keep on posting Wallis, you have a lot of wisdom you could share with these progressives about the REAL world and how things REALLY work.

I can't believe you would rip someone up one side and down the other like that, a private citizen, as you did and even used his name on your hack column. What class!

It's you who should be appologizing, Mike.

-- Posted by Justin76 on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 2:05 PM

Mike,

Not only do your comments show a lot about your research ability and "journalistic" credibility, but they also show a lot about your class. Mr. Marsh has made his identity known on more than one occasion during his time on the gazette blogs.

I do agree with you on one thing though..."the newspaper ought to exercise some oversight in terms of what is said and who says it and so far, I've failed to see that oversight". Your own column is proof of that statement.

Now that you have been made aware that his sign on name is his true identity, and after publicly attacking him in print, I'll look forward to reading your apology and retraction.

Keep on posting Mr. Marsh.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 6:22 PM

Perhaps we could all learn to show some respect for others opinion. Put some thought into your response and select our words with chairity. Most of the people who get on this forum attack Mike (and others)with out even reading his entire column. If you have such strong feelings about his opinion and politics....stop reading them. I personally only read Mr Hendricks and Mr Whetstons columns because I cannot abide the point of views that the others that are a regular part of this paper.

Seriously folks...life is too short to get so upset over this sort of thing. A little kindness and respect go a long way.

Respectfully yours

Karen Hamburger

-- Posted by kaygee on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 7:04 PM

Could someone mail me a copy of the paper where Mike at Night wrote his column about me. It is titled: Wallismarsh.

Wallis Marsh

5065 Westheimer Suite 625

Houston, TX 77056.

I will pay your expenses.

Thanks,

Wallis

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 8:06 PM

http://mccookgazette.mycapture.com/mycap...

The following pictures come from the McCook Gazette itself.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 7:43 AM

(((((((The whole point of the internet and blogs is to give people a way to express their opinions, anonymously.

If this were the "old days" most of the people with columns on this website and millions of others would not exist. Why? Because none of this is news worthy. It is only opinions, and everyone has an opinion.

You can't expect self important columnist' to receive the respect that a professional journalist receives based on the fact that you opine on your opinions every week or everyday with no editorial oversight.

If that were to happen all of this internet time wasting blogging would go away.

Now, having said that, I always identify myself.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sat, Jan 9, 2010, at 10:44 AM ))))))))

The following comments were taken taken from Mike at Night come out and show yourself.

I clearly identify myself. As I always identify myself as my login is my name.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 7:54 AM

(((((((You are a teacher of Sociology. You should know human behavior.

The reason people are turning on Obama and the Democrats is because the Dems give the appearance that we, the people, need them to make our personal decisions for us. If you want to anger a crowd, take away their perception of their right or ability to make their own decisions. The Democrats have accomplished this.

The problem with Ben Nelson is different. Whether he did or didn't, most Americans believe he compromised his "morals and ethics" and made a backroom deal with his party. I doubt he will ever overcome that stigma. It is really to bad that his political career will be remembered for this piece of bad legislation and the "Obama shiny object of the moment was to pass this legislation to give my first year a passing grade". Ben Nelson was a victim of this President's arrogance and naivety.

Bill Clinton BTW was a double threat. He was a great campaigner and great Politician. Barack Obama is a great campaigner and terrible politician. My concern now and a year ago is what are Barack Obama's qualifications for CEO of the United States of America? He has never run anything.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sat, Jan 30, 2010, at 7:28 AM ))))))))))

This post came from The Art of the Deal.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 7:56 AM

(((((((I guess we all need to find a shaman or a witch doctor or tree bark.

Doctor's save lives everyday. More people should thank them than cuss them.

Go to any emergency room in any major city and a life was saved today!!!!!!

Go to Pittsburgh Pa and many transplants were performed today that saved lives.

You Democrats will continue to blame people that add value to our lives because for what ever reason you have declared them your enemy.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Tue, Feb 9, 2010, at 1:05 PM

What an unfortunate political attack you just launched wallis, on a opinion piece that had absolutely nothing to do with politics.

-- Posted by ekimsitruc on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 10:32 AM )))))))))

My entire "Famous comments" also note the remark after mine. Those are comments by Mike at Nights son. He knows who I am. His word choice is interesting "unfortunate". Some sort of foreboding as to what was to come? He obviously knew something.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 8:02 AM

((((((((((Could someone mail me a copy of the McCook Gazette where Mike at Night wrote his column about me. It is titled: Wallismarsh.

Wallis Marsh

5065 Westheimer Suite 625

Houston TX 77056

I will pay your expenses.

Thanks,

Wallis

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 8:03 PM

Can you tell me what that has anything to do with anything wallis?

-- Posted by ekimsitruc on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 5:30 AM

Do you have some sour grapes because Mike at Night exposed you for what you are wallis? You are a troll and a flamer. You made a political attack on a column that had nothing at all to do with politics so he called you out on it.

Is your pride hurt? Because I'm trying to figure out why after Mike took you to task for an unwarranted political attack you choose to come to my blog and post that information here.

If you really want a copy of his article how about ordering McCook's Weekend paper where that article appeared? Or contacting the staff of McCook Gazette directly and asking them for a copy? Or how about contacting Mike and asking him for a copy? Here's an idea, how about you click on the column and hit print, that seems to be the easiest method.

Really the only thing I can think of is you made a nasty little political attack on a column, the columnist called you out on it, not only on the website but in the actual paper and you are embarrassed by it and now you are either trying to save face or pull people on the blog site into your little issue.

I'll say here what I said on the original column that you lashed out at Mike, "What an unfortunate political attack you just launched wallis, on a opinion piece that had absolutely nothing to do with politics"

You know for someone who lied about who I was for almost a month without correction you sure seem fickle about Mike calling you out.

You posted your outright lie about me on December 19 and on January 16 you finally retracted your statement with an apology, though you still took a dig at me deciding that for some reason I was not proud of McCook, though you had no evidence on it. What's even stranger, even though I responded to your lie on that original post with the truth, you still demanded on January 16 to know what you had lied about, which further proves you don't actually take the time to read what others say, you read names and then jump to a conclusion what you believe they are saying.

Here's the amazing thing though, your fellow trolls are demanding a retraction and an apology from Mike but when you spread your lies about me they were oddly silent.

Mike's main point in his column is completely valid. Blogger's and posters are anonymous. But the point that everyone has missed (instead choosing to focus on your real identity) is that because posters only need a screen name to post they are able to say things on the web they would never say in public to real people.

In the end it's obvious, you are a political hack who can not see beyond political affiliations. More than likely you read one or two sentences on Mike's article about doctors and pills and decided that all Democrats needed to be attacked for something that never appeared in his column.

But this is all wasted breath because I know you don't see that point, all you see is that you were "unfairly" attacked and now you and all your little troll buddies are striking back.

Feels different when you are on the other end doesn't it.

-- Posted by ekimsitruc on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 6:44 AM

I just asked for a copy of a newspaper.

BTW does Mike read your blog?

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 7:01 AM ))))))))

This is from Mike at Night's kids blog. He knows who I am.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 8:06 AM

Wow Mike I hope you really feel like the idiot you are now. Too bad all this isn't posted in the paper for all to read that got to see your original column. I await your apology.

Fact is Wall is right the democrats have to make some enemy to attack since thay can not win in a war of ideas. First it was big banks, now it's those evil insurance companies, evil corporations, and on and on and on.

Now when I and others say Democrats you, as a college professor, should know we mean the party leadership and their agenda not the individual members.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 9:44 AM

PEOPLE.....You arnt making any sense any more!!!!You are just spouting off and calling each other names!!! This is what is wrong with this forum...NO ONE reads or respects others opinion.

GROW UP.

-- Posted by kaygee on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 2:00 PM

I have never said a word about Mike at Night in the printed version of the McCook Gazette.

He did about me. He also claimed that I am an anonymous poster when I post under my own name. Every time.

Just because Mike at Night does not know me that does not make me anonymous.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 3:18 PM

Wasn't it Mike who had derogatory things to say about the folks at Sarges bar a few years ago? Face it folks you can't fix no class.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 10:09 PM

Mike Jr. doesn't help this situation very much. His own blog is sophmoric at best. Lashing out anyone with a different point of view who are passonate about how government affects their lives while the progressives work towards some kind of utopian society.

He keeps slanderous words and phases close to his hip like a gunfighter and his six shooter, loaded with bullets.

Any chance someone might sneak up and suprise then with a good point of maybe even some facts that are contrary to these progessive views, he draws his gun and shoots. It's pretty easy to call someone a racist on a blog than in their face, at least you won't lose a tooth.

Mike Jr. seems to think that because his name is on the blog, that is in some way more honest than us "anonymous" bloggers that can say anything like a hit and run artist.

Well let me tell you something, it's one thing to be teacher in THIS town, or a small business owner in THIS town, or to be born in THIS town and know everyone in THIS town, when you do all your business in this TOWN, and when you do business with THIS newspaper in THIS town...to get on here and express your views and feelings about what all the failed policies in our too big government have done and are doing to REAL people who work and pay taxes...the kind of people who should be running our country, not millionaire lawyers.

Then there is you Mikey Jr. You NEVER have to face the people you have insulted, you NEVER have to rely on the people you call name for you livelihood, you NEVER have to worry about that fact that what you say is EVER going to come back to haunt you in conversation with anyone in your personal life EVER! You're worse than the anonymous blogger, as there doesn't seem to be any controling you.

So don't you dare sit here and run down bloggers with your condescending banter.

What Mike Sr. did was dispicable. Dragging a private citizen throught the mud like that, and using his name in the article to glorify himself is beyond rediculous. I can't belive the Gazette would ever allow it to happen. Wallis Marsh is an upstanding former MHS grad from McCook, which more than you two can claim although you find no problem with dragging McCookites through the mud to glorify your progressive ideology.

I am not an anonymous blogger.

I am Justin Harris, a father of two boys, a devoted husband, community supporter, a Cub Scout den leader, a humble Christian, a a lawn care business owner in the town I grew up in and am proud to be from. I care about this community as much as my own family and I am concerned about the direction of our govenment and how that affects our freedom we all enjoy.

As a business owner and conservsative I admire Wallis as a true epitome of the American dream where you don't have be "somebody" to achieve if you learn, work hard, and do your job. Don't wait around and wait for someone to give you what you want.

And now, I guess Mike Sr. has taken a page out of the Jr. book to punish your adversaries in the paper or blog with blistering words instead of exploring the reasons behind such beliefs. Many times I have tried to initiate political debate to explore why progressives believe in ideas so contrary to our country's forefathers.

Every time, I have been met with this same type of blistering attacks and character assination. I don't have to defend myself to my fellow McCookites, I think they know I am not a racist, a biggot, or even a bottom-feeding hillbilly as I've been called by the likes of the progressive bloggers here and Jr. himself.

Even if Wallis's statement went too far, I seriously don't think what was done to him was fair or justified. Aren't these progressives supposed to be the open minded, fair, and compassionate ones? Only if you agree with them apparently.

-- Posted by Justin76 on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 11:11 PM

Chaco1,

That was Dick Trail, not Mike. Be careful here, with Jr. lurking around, if you get one thing wrong, they will pounce on you like a bunch of hungry hyenas over a wildebeest carcass. Especially in an event like this, it's a diversionary tactic to take away your credibility and divert attention away from their own predicament.

I learned that on Jr's blog. You'll get attacked with words so strong and rediculous, you really can't say anything credible after it. The tactic is meant to discredit someone with well known social hot triggers, like "racist," or "homophomes," or hate monger.

Basically if you don't agree with something they say, you are simply a hatefull, close-minded biggot that is not capable of fitting in with the 21st century society.

Then if they can't do that, they will attack you typing and spelling, and of course accuse you of having no education or making fun of your McCook education, all right here on McCook's own newspaper. I believe in their right, the 1st Amendment, even though it's a very juvenile use of their right.

-- Posted by Justin76 on Sun, Feb 14, 2010, at 11:24 PM

Ok I stand corrected. I rarely agree with Mike but support his right to be wrong. I guess I am just a scumbag who hides behind my anonymous screen name.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 10:01 AM

Just goes to show, some people can sure dish it out but can't take any criticism at all. I've read and re-read Mr. Marsh's comment, I just don't see why it would lead Mike into making such a public skeptical of HIMSELF. It's great to see Mike and jr exposed for what they are.

-- Posted by remington81 on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 12:02 PM

Mike you need to quit writting period if the heat is to much for your leftist politics and corrective truthfull rebuttals or grow some ????and get over it and learn that conservative Nebraska residents are not going to let anyone/especially a college teacher to spout leftist leaning politics without disputes period. Hope you stay and continue to write to stir things but enough of the crying about identifying all who dispute your way of leftist teaching and living i respectfully disagree with you and Obama period.

-- Posted by Cornwhisperer on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 3:27 PM

PEOPLE.... Please...STOP.....Go back and read this blog. From the begining... You will see that it has gotten way off track and out of control. Calling each other names and sceaming about unrelated nonsenical subjects..... All you are doing is...well you are showing the entire world that you are ignorant and unsophisticated with this line of nonsense.

PLEASE STOP

-- Posted by kaygee on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 6:25 PM

good advice! have you done it? mike excoriated someone for something they didnt do. i am still hopeful he will man up and admit his mistake. if he does, i will maintain my respect for his point of view, even if i disagree with it.

-- Posted by doodle bug on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 PM

kaygee, I have NEVER seen you rush to rescue of a conservative who has been called names or been lambasted like this. Funny how you come out of the woodwork to aid these liberal attacks.

What Mike did to Wallis is reprehensible. Do you even realize that this was not a web blog? It was in the print paper. Smearing a man who had no idea he was being smeared because Mike is too lazy to learn any facts and more worried that someone doesn't like his point of view. He went as far to use the man's name as the title. If that happened to me I would demand Mike have his article stripped forever and possibly even seek defamation litigation toward the Gazette for allowing such stupidty and arrogance.

The Gazette is lucky I don't take away my advertizing dollars...I thought about it. Allowing this kind of sophmoric crap in the print paper the way Mike plastered his arrogant self pity all over the print version at the expense of a private individual and hip opinion. I hope they take his column away, he doesn't deserve it.

Absolutely no class and no thinking when into his rant where he drug Wallis into public fprum for a litterary beating without his knowing about it.

Wallis is a successful MHS alum, someone the town of McCook should be proud of. Then here comes Mike, from Arkansas, who doesn't even take time to figure out who Wallis Marsh is, and then smears him all over the inside of the front page of the paper.

I suggest you keep your trap shut, as I have yet to see you mediate anything things like this break out.

I am almost as upset about little Mike getting in this and shooting his non-thinking mouth off about the whole situation. Before this I respected the senior Mike's writing a lot more then little Mike and his cheap shot/ hit-and-run type of lame-brain ranting over there at his "Views from the far left side" blog.

That has changed, Mike Sr. seems to have picked up some of that progressive fury that seems to be popping up since it is apparent that the country is NOT in need of Obama and his policies, as they THOUGHT we were. That is where the source of this anguish comes from.

-- Posted by Justin76 on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 9:11 PM

Wallis - I will be happy to send you the newspaper.

-- Posted by MakingApoint on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 9:50 PM

Mike - As I have read all of this garbage I have come to the conclusion that you use this media as an outlet. It is your therapy. You don't post or write columns to learn. You write all of this stuff to deal with yourself.

Therefore, you are always right. If people agree with you it makes you feel good. If people disagree with you - you feel attacked. Then you defend yourself.

As an engineer we have to solve problems. If someone disagrees with us we don't defend our answers. We critically examine the new information and if we are wrong we thank the person for pointing it to our attention.

You are not an engineer and I am not a teacher. We are different. I was foolish and wasting your time and my time for ever believing that this was any kind of an open forumn.

I apologize for wasting so much time.

I would also encourage all people that disagree with Mike to stop wasting time.

Wallis Marsh aka:wallismarsh

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 3:41 PM

OK JUSTIN76, SO.... You want to call me out on my request for respect and civility to our fellow humans...(not just Mike but all the blogers on this site)....some thing you are short on btw......I totally agree that Mike let his anger get the best of him in his attack on Wallis.... but Mike IS the most intelligent and eloquent writer in this news paper. I dont nessarly agree with his point of view but I enjoy and respect his ability to speak on a wide variaty of subjects. He is the only reason I read this paper.(ok i like the star guy too)And some times I learn a thing or two.

I get a real strong feeling that most McCokites are not sophisticated enough to understand his articles. This is why most of you lash out with out even reading the entire article he submitted, AND without taking the time to THINK before commenting.I took the time to go back and reread ALL of the submittions discussed here. Several times I read them. THIS HAS GOTTEN OUT OF HAND!!!!No one is making any sense.

(SIGH)

I took a hiatus from this paper for about 9 months because I have a real problem with the bullying and abuse that goes on here. YOU JUSTIN76 ARE ONE OF THE WORST OFFENDERS!!! You chase people off with your abuse. No one can have an opinion that dosnt align with yours. You attack them no matter what the subject or their comments.( Just so you know and can attack me on some thing totally unrelated....I commented on the article about spring)

Justin I respect you view points...I just dont agree with you...If you choose to bully thoes of us who disagree with you....then YOU LOOSE. YOU are refusing to learn.

Think what you want about me. I jumped in here to point out the absurdity of this whole line of commentary. To inject a sense of balance. A call for civility that we all deserve.

If all of you want to show the world is that you are ignorant and unsopisticated hot heads...then far be it from me to stop you.

Respectfully

Karen Hamburger

P.S. Did you notice that I signed my name Justin76.....who ever you are!!!

-- Posted by kaygee on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 6:04 PM

"but Mike IS the most intelligent and eloquent writer in this news paper"(probably the world)

"I get a real strong feeling that most McCokites are not sophisticated enough to understand his articles" (just country hicks)

Gee thanks Karen Hamburger, I'm speechless! Thank God we have someone with your intelligence to set us old hicks straight!

"I took the time to go back and reread ALL of the submittions discussed here. Several times I read them" (SUBMISSIONS, gee karen can't believe you did that, with your higher then high IQ)

I guess we all need to read then re-read the submissions before we post! Apparently that is the only way to truly understand them!

Thank you Karen, your the bestest!

-- Posted by remington81 on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 6:46 PM

I wonder how Karen Hamburger would feel to wake up in the morning and see her name headlining the local paper, and being chastised and raked over the coals about her opinions.

I'm guessing she wouldn't think that writer was the best writer for that paper.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 7:00 PM

Mike and Mini-Mike are hilarious. The great lakes freezing over and the imminent political takeover of radical liberalism by middle of the road conservatism is about to make them both crack.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 7:04 PM

I am truly sorry if I have offended any one. All I asked is that you show some respect.... something you all expect but for some reason cannot give. I do not understand why being asked to show respect is so offensive to all of you.

Guess I am asking too much.For some strange reason I really and truly beleived you all were better than this.I am more than willing to admit that I was very wrong about this. SO sorry I tried interject some civility into this forum.

Peace to all!

Karen

-- Posted by kaygee on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 8:06 PM

By definition KAREN, I am one of the worst offenders because I disagree with the likes of you most of all. That is because I am very conservative. That is why you don't like me speaking my opinion.

By name calling standards you are an outright liar. I never come on here to call names, unless you mean calling someone ignorant for making a completely ignorant remark...like the one you make about us dumb hicks here in McCook that just don't understand a real smart guy like Mike. The fact is, we understand you progressives too well, that's why you see this sleeping giant awakening throughout the country.

I just don't think you GET it. I don't think you realize that Mike didn't just blog about Wallis making him mad. He drug his name all over the printed newspaper and while he was having his little pity party he managed to disparage Wallis. I don't even know how the hell it passed the lax editroial processof the paper. Surely someone down there knows who Wallis Marsh is, the rest of seem to! Maybe it's a free-for-all down there!

Then here you come to liberal rescue. Classic. Where were you when I was being called a bottom feeding hillbilly because I don't think the government should be paying for everyone's college tuition? Didn't see you there.

Where were you when I was called a racist at the first sign I didn; like Obama? Yeah, you were right there if I remember right, pouring fuel on the flame with your progressive pals. Anybody that doesn't like Obama is simply a racist. Now all of a sudden you are the definition of reason and understanding.

We had that debate on Mikey's blog and it got pretty ugly because the liberals don't understand why we dumb rednecks don't want to work 3 damn jobs for a bunch of educated idiots to get free higher education so we can have more of what we have in Washington now!

Well, that may be a little over your head, so I'll stop there.

And Karen, being disparaged all over the newspaper without your knowledge simply so someone like Mike can vent his frustration is total BS!!! I bet you wouldn't be laughing or coming to my rescue if took YOUR name and wrote an entire article to disparage you!

-- Posted by Justin76 on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 8:21 PM

Oh BTW way Karen,

Apparently you're so wise, that while reading all the submissions as you normally do and have spiritedly pointed out several times here recently that you DO, you missed the entire paragraph up above where I explained, in Wallis's honor, exactly who I am.

Apparently you missed it while looking at my post trying to find something mean to say about me.

And Karen, while your're reading my short biography, keep something in mind, I didn't start working when I was 11, I didn't risk everything I have, go to college for 4 years while working to pay the bills, go into debt to start a business, invest in America's future by starting a family...just to see this country be taken over by progressives that think they can control everyone, tax us whenever and however they want, mortgage MY future AND my kids' future to save a bunch of greedy, illiterate, lazy, insatiable, uneducated, arrogant, misguided, unholy, selfish bunch of people this country has been catering to for the better part of 50 years and crap all over the head of the worker and small business owner that knows that the American dream means that we have the FREEDOM to pursue our dreams, it doesn't mean the government will award us those dreams.

The government has all but taken those freedoms to pursue any dream unless you are a minority, you have connections, or you want to pursue what the government wants you to pursue!

I have never bullied anyone here, only expressed the opinions of a true conservative that has been forged in the REAL word of haves and have nots. I know what it's like to need things but you cannot afford them, yet when a government office or municipality needs something it's just put on the tax payer tab. I know what makes the economy go around because I live and die by the economy. I sure is easy is easy to sit at a desk as a public servant of some kind and think about all the things that could make you job better or easier, but in the real world you have to justify it and sacrifice.

Then there is the lala land called the federal government who have stripped the states of all their power and spent all the tax revenues from the next 3 generations, in about 2 years. Damn right I'm mad. And you have the nerve to attack me for being opinionated? The only reason I can figure that the entire country is not out storming a government office for answers right now is blissful ignorance!

It's not my fault when weak hearted liberals are offended when I think that someone doesn't deserve a break because life's not fair. Or because I don't think that we should spend trillions on thing we don't NEED. Again, difference in philosophies. I think at a time like this we should focus on what we need, not what we want.

-- Posted by Justin76 on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 8:52 PM

DUDE.... calm down....How is asking for respect and civility attack on your politics or your person? I didn not defend Mikes opinion only that you and the others here need show some respect. He was wrong to let his anger get the best of him but this all out attack has gotten out of hand.

Did any of you hear me this time????

Let Mike and Wallis settle this.

Further more....

You know absolutly nothing about my politics, religion or personal struggels. You only know my name. So please stop putting words in my mouth and telling me what a horrible person I am.

All I want is to see productive discussions about the issues so we can all make this world a better place.....for all of us!

Peace

Karen

-- Posted by kaygee on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 9:50 PM

I am still waiting on an apology from Mike to Wallis. I suspect Mike was drinking when he wrote this piece as is evidenced by the observations above and any objective observation of Mike interacting in society.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Wed, Feb 17, 2010, at 9:11 AM

Karen Mike made it impossible for it to be settleds between he and Walis when he printed his name in the paper. He made it a public thing and invited all of us to comment when he posted it here. Please lay the blame where it belongs squarely at his feet not mine.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Wed, Feb 17, 2010, at 9:54 AM

"GIVE THEM HELL MIKE!!!!"

-- Posted by kaygee on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 4:34 PM

Hmmm...the first of SEVEN posts by someone wanting the rest of us to "Let Mike and Wallis settle this."

Hello pot.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Wed, Feb 17, 2010, at 10:24 AM

Kaygee's hypocrisy is only outdone by mini-mikes when it comes to chastising others for their feedback. Mini-mike is worse as he is fond of censorship. Big Mike just throws tantrums.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Wed, Feb 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM

It is with utter disdain to necessarily read through the blogs about this matter on this site.

One item of note is that the Gazette apparently isn't too concerned about a potential libel suit by not policing some of the comments made on this site.

I must confess that I am ignorant of what this entire issue is, and why it warrants any discussion to begin with. But, as an observation, there certainly are a good number who post blogs based on apparent emotion rather than logical thought.

The Gazette, if it has indeed libeled someone then the natural course would be to demand a retraction with apology, barring that civil action should be taken.

I have lived in the McCook area since the mid 1950's and prefer to voice my opinions under my pseudonym because I believe it provokes opportunity for someone (me) to state their (my) true opinions without worrying about political correctness. Thus, anonymity is a good thing.

Unless there is clear libel either on this site, or having been published, it truly appears that many of you are getting upset about something rather trivial.

Now that being said, I suspect someone is upset about my expressed opinion.

Fine with me.

Move-on folks.

-- Posted by FarmerJoe on Wed, Feb 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM

FarmerJoe - I am willing to move on. I never wanted to make a disagreement over internet content only public in the first place.

My brother encouraged me to post on as he didn't want a "bully" to intimidate others into keeping their opinions to themselves for fear of public retribution.

Hopefully, that is so last Monday.

Mike has been radio silent but that is his MO.

That is not a dig against Mike. He never comments. He is being consistent.

I do apologize to you and others that this has gotten so out of control.

Just one last comment about his doctor story. It was odd to me at the time that when he wrote the piece it was after the Scott Brown victory and the Government takeover of Health Care was slowed down. Knowing Mike was for the bill, I thought it was a subtle jab which motivated my political comment. I think I was correct then and am still correct about the timing of the story. Now it is possible that he had this story on the shelf for a long time and my assumption was wrong. It just seemed at the time that it was a frustrated jab at the slowed health bill. His reply by the way, actually makes me even more convinced that my assumption was partially correct.

However, my dig at him was between him and me and the small community that reads the online edition. It has gone on to far.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Thu, Feb 18, 2010, at 5:56 AM

My apology to you Farmer Joe had strings attached. That was inmaturity on I part.

I am sorry, Sir.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Thu, Feb 18, 2010, at 8:09 AM

It is obvious the health care debacle, the great lakes freezing over, Sarah Palin's continued existance, the loss of 60 votes, and the realization you have elected a fraud has taken it's toll on many a liberal. We should all back off Mike and mini-mike and let them lick their wounds or guzzle multiple stiff drinks as the case may be.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Thu, Feb 18, 2010, at 8:41 AM

Wallismarsh: I admire you for being forthright. No apology warranted. Let's just sleep on this for now and kind of move on.....it seems to have beaten to death now. Have a great evening to you, and all bloggers! FJ

-- Posted by FarmerJoe on Thu, Feb 18, 2010, at 9:00 PM

Mike has now shown all us all what MCC has hired a burned out college teacher spouting leftist commentary to stir the local pot period and no tolerance to disapproval?? must be a growing up thing??But to come unglued and exposing his novice level of handling any rejection is scary.....I would hate to be a young conservative student in his classes ...getting a F before you even take your first test....because you don't conform to his wishes/leftist ways... scary times at MCC ahead......

-- Posted by Cornwhisperer on Sat, Feb 20, 2010, at 1:09 AM

While I am certainly no defender of Mike I have heard froma friend that he was fair and a good teacher. This is second hand but I trust the person who told me this. Dang I am defending Mike, Devil must be shivering in his sleeping bag.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Sun, Feb 21, 2010, at 11:31 AM

I find this whole thing a bit depressing and childish. This sounds like something you would see on a Halo or Modern Warfare live game chat.

I don't truly agree with either side here, quit behaving like children.

-- Posted by levi.rogers on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 8:41 AM

"Mike has now shown all us all what MCC has hired a burned out college teacher spouting leftist commentary to stir the local pot period and no tolerance to disapproval?? must be a growing up thing??But to come unglued and exposing his novice level of handling any rejection is scary.....I would hate to be a young conservative student in his classes ...getting a F before you even take your first test....because you don't conform to his wishes/leftist ways... scary times at MCC ahead......" - Jlake

This is absolute drivel. Politics aside where I heartily disagree with Mike this is just not true. I am guessing you failed his class at some point in your life because you didn't wish to show up and/or participate.

-- Posted by levi.rogers on Fri, Mar 5, 2010, at 8:43 AM

Mike: You state, " I will no longer engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person." Does this mean you're no longer going to publish a column?

-- Posted by FarmerJoe on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 6:28 PM


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