Official: No risk in chemicals

Friday, March 18, 2011

McCOOK, Nebraska -- The levels of the other two chemicals, tetrachloroethylene -- PCE -- and chloroform, that were discovered during a December 2010 soil and vapor sampling of the trichloroethylene -- TCE -- contaminated area neighboring the former TRW Facility in McCook, are also too low to cause a health risk for residents in the area. According to Sue Dempsey, Risk Assessor for the Nebraska State Department of Health and Human Services, the vapor emission from a business suit returning from the dry-cleaners would cause higher levels of PCE in your home than those that were found at the site.

She also told the Gazette, Wednesday during a phone interview, that the risk assessment performed by Milco Environmental Services Inc. of McCook on behalf of Northrop Grumman, "was a very conservative risk assessment." Dempsey explained that the risk model that Milco ran for every sampling location assumed a worst-case scenario of the chemical migrating directly above its location and maintaining the level below ground at which it was sampled.

"They did that at every location and assumed it would be a resident living there full time and found nothing risk wise," said Dempsey.

Dempsey was reluctant to answer specific questions that sought to establish a threshold between a safe and harmful level of PCE and chloroform, that could then be compared to the soil sample levels provided in Northrop Grumman's report. She said the models that must be used were very complex and utilized a large number of variables. She did estimate that it would take levels of PCE and chloroform significantly higher than those discovered to warrant any type of investigation into their origination. She added that a typical male has a one in two risk of contracting cancer during his life and a woman one in three. Contracting cancer from exposure to PCE and chloroform at levels similar to those in the vicinity of the TRW facility were right at one in a hundred million.

Northrop Grumman released its December soil sampling report in a March 1 Gazette story, after saying they had previously released the report to the city, the state and a concerned resident of the area. As of March 18 there has still not been a formal statement from any state or other entities, regarding the findings, aside from the informal conversation with Dempsey. This may have contributed to speculation and even confusion, that seems to have mounted about whether the levels of the three chemicals found at the site are safe for neighboring residents.

A representative from the Nebraska Department of Environmental Quality confirmed that no land use restrictions had been placed on the TRW Facility property, even though the December soil sampling report states the site is in excess of the New York State Department of Health maximum level for unrestricted land use. The NYSDOH standards were used during the soil analysis because there are no federal regulations pertaining to levels of the chemicals.

Further investigation by the Gazette into the 5.0 ug/m3 level, that NYSDOH uses, revealed that the level was set to encourage practices that would minimize presence of the chemical and exceeding the level does not necessarily indicate a risk to public health nor does it trigger actions to reduce exposure.

According to information found on their website, it takes long-term exposure to air containing TCE levels generally greater than 40,000 ug/m3 before it is linked to effects on the central nervous system (reduced scores on motor coordination tests, nausea, headaches and dizziness) and irritation to the mucous membrane. Short-term exposure to higher levels, greater than 300,000 ug/m3 can irritate the eyes and respiratory tract, as well as effect the central nervous system. During the December soil analysis the highest level of TCE at the TRW Facility was only 36 ug/m3, which came from a sample 15 feet deep and directly adjacent to the main building.

McCook Utility Director Jesse Dutcher told the Gazette, earlier this week, that he was concerned that the publicized statements from the Northrop Grumman report, specifically regarding chloroform, may have been confusing. He said that the report stated, "Chloroform is typically associated with potable water system leakage of chlorine disinfection byproducts," and according to Dutcher, while the statement is true, chloroform is a byproduct of chlorine and occurs as it reacts with other compounds it comes in contact with. "The chloroform would have not been in the water but formed as the chlorine reacted with the soil. According to the report the highest concentration of the chloroform was located on East 16th Street at a point about halfway between TRW and East C Street," said Dutcher, who further explained that McCook only has one water line in the area where the highest level of chloroform was recorded. "The water line in that area is a service line and it is not leaking and has not leaked in the past. The meter for this particular service line is located at the intersection of East C and 16th street, any leak would have been registered as a high usage on the meter, there were none," said Dutcher.

"Chloroform is not just limited to the water industry, it is a naturally-occurring chemical but most often is man-made and is a member of a group of chemicals called trihalomethanes. It is used to make coolants, as a fumigant for grain, and is a dry cleaning spot remover, along with being in other solvents, dyes and pesticides," said Dutcher.

McCook's water system is tested annually for the trihalomethane group and the city's annual test for chloroform was conducted on July 22, 2010. According to Dutcher the 2010 results for chloroform were 1.06 ug/L, well within the safe level and equal to about .009 of a pound in one million gallons of water.

Northrop Grumman also stated in their report that the original TCE plume at the TRW facility was significantly decreased, since mitigation efforts began in 1993. The company also offered to provide the Gazette with data supporting the decrease of the plume, after having the opportunity to present the information to city staff in a meeting Thursday.

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  • Sorry but I say "HOGWASH". I work on behalf of citizens being poisoned in this incident as well as the 9/11 First Responders and the Gulf Coast/BP victims. I have viewed photos of residents in McCook that are growing chemical burns on their bodies due to the exposure of toxic vapors leeching into their homes. I have also viewed the core sample reports taken in January, and of course it is safe to live there in a toxic waste zone. As long as the military/industrial complex giants like TRW and Northrup Grumman own Senators, Congresspeople, the press, and the right city officials-the health of the affected residents means nothing to them. After all, who cares that hundreds will die, as long as NG has a great financial portfolio? The right thing for NG to do would be to buy all affected homes and compensate the residents for the loss of health. Sadly, this will never happen. However, in this day and age with the huge awakening going on globally, repugnant and deadly coverups on this scale will be brought to light.The genocide machine that is responsible for this mentality;aka the EPA, will be exposed for their role in this scenario as well as the Gulf Coast victims and the criminal lies told to the 9/11 First responders. Just a kind bit of advice; the population of the United States is well aware that the press is owned by the corporations. This is why the alternative media is so successful.

    -- Posted by Congressman on Sat, Mar 19, 2011, at 2:15 PM
  • Last I checked, the city didn't have any authority over acceptable contamination levels related to the spill. That is unless you want to start paying for a local environmental quality department. The report came from the State's Health and Human Services department.

    So, city officials are getting paid for something they have no authority over? Use some common sense here. In what world does that make sense to offer money to a city official that has no say in the matter?

    I'm also curious about all these "secret" meetings. Obviously they must not be so secret if you know about them. So, when was the last one held. Shoot, name a time just one of them was held in the last 10 years. All I could find was one open meeting on the topic which was informational only. Sure, the mayor didn't allow public comment but it was far from a secret meeting when it's advertised in the paper and held in front of public.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Mon, Mar 21, 2011, at 4:40 PM
  • So, McCook1; In what world does a city have no authority over what goes on inside it's limits? It doesn't collect school and county taxes on a business operating in the city? That is hard to believe. Every city has it's hand out for revenue, as well as Congressmen and Senators that operate within the state. Maybe this is why Senator Nelson cut a deal on Obamacare. Maybe he had a fraction of conscience left. After all, he had been receiving sizeable campaign contributions from TRW up until 1996.McCook1, let us be real. We all know the "good ole boy" network is alive and well all across this nation.

    -- Posted by Congressman on Mon, Mar 21, 2011, at 9:28 PM
  • "In what world does a city have no authority over what goes on inside it's limits?"

    In the real world where we have an established system of law that regulates the power of state and local government.

    The county collects all property tax within the city and distributes the funds to the entities that collect a property tax based on their share of the tax levy. That's the only tax the school collects within the city and the county collects their own taxes. Although, I have no idea what that has to do with the city lacking the authority to enforce environmental cleanup standards which it does not possess anyway.

    The city does not have nor has it ever had jurisdiction over environmental quality issues because the law of the state is that cities can only do what the statutes say they can do. There is no statute that allows cities to set environmental standards and enforce them. That authority is given to Health and Human Services and NDEQ as well as the EPA on a national level.

    I don't know the capacity in which you represent anyone but I sure hope it's not a legal representation. I doubt this is the case but if so, I would recommend they find someone who actually knows the function of government in the state of Nebraska and where government regulatory authority is vested.

    Which city officials and press do they own here or are you just making blind accusations with no actual facts? Which of our Senators or Congressmen do they own and what is your evidence? Btw, TRW is out of business so Nelson would no longer have any incentive to do anything for Northrop Grumman by your own reasoning.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Tue, Mar 22, 2011, at 9:42 AM
  • HA HA HA McCook1, Where did I ever state that I was a member of the legal community? I did not. Yes, I am fully aware TRW was purchased by NG. I am also aware of how the political structure works nationwide. I am not making blind accusations with no actual facts. If city officials are collecting revenue such as taxes on affected citizens and are aware of this dangerous situation; that makes them an accessory to murder.I get the direct impression from your hostility and denial that YOU may somehow be involved in the coverup of this mass poisoning of the residents in question. I hope for your sake that you are not. Judging from the photos and documented evidence that I have been sent by the residents, this contamination that is unsuccessfully being swept under the rug,there is a major problem in McCook. I really hope that someone at the Gazette has the intestinal fortitude to tell the real story. The real story is that residents are slowly being poisoned by these toxins, and some one will profit greatly from the property that will be vacated. You also seem to be twisting the facts, please do not let your anger make you comment incorrectly. It was never stated that Senator Nelson would "do" anything for NG, it was stated that this may be one reason he was wheeling and dealing in regards to Obamacare. My interest for these residentsis that they are compensated fairly for the contamination of their property, as I am sure it was not contaminated with PCE or TCE when it was built. I do not need one penny from anyone, but I will not relent in the quest to expose this danger. I will not be deterred and I will not be threatened or intimidated by the likes of you or anyone else. People in positions of power seem to have an arrogance to the point of thinking they are above the law, they are not.

    -- Posted by Congressman on Tue, Mar 22, 2011, at 10:27 AM
  • Like I said, I doubt it was the case you were in a legal profession because of the obvious lack of understanding of basic government agencies and their respective functions and authority possessed by each.

    So what do you want the city to do? Force NG to report to them, demand access to the properties to ensure compliance with whatever the city demands? I guess you can see how many people want to pay for an environmental quality agency in McCook. It should definitely add some high paying jobs to the community, albeit, paid for by the taxpayers.

    If you feel so strongly, run for office. Just remember that means that any person off the street can accuse you of taking money from corporations and being one of the "good ole boys" without a shred of evidence. I dislike Nelson as much as the next person but I don't go around accusing him of things like accessory to murder or bribery with nothing to back it up. That's not even an accusation, it's just ranting without rationale.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Tue, Mar 22, 2011, at 6:18 PM
  • I am more convinced that you are a member of the press. Such an obvious dodge to the questions at hand, and so quick to make an attempt to discredit. Where was any direct reference to accusing Ben Nelson of murder or bribery? There was not. However, you fail to answer the main points. Was there any TCE/PCE on these properties back in the late 1940's and 1950's? Of course not, because TRW had not been established yet. I do not know what type of lawyer you purport yourself to be, but the fact remains-NG bought a liability. So, either the real estate persons involved failed to disclose this "problem" or NG, like most military/industrial complex agencies, did not read their paperwork. This is their liability, and they should fairly buy the owners of the contaminated property out. From the articles posted recently in this publication, it is blindingly obvious who's side the Gazette takes. However, McCook1, the lives of those suffering in your community do not concern you, just your juvenile twists of verbiage. Your sense of humanity is overwhelming.Let me assure you, I am not a member of the legal community, but as the casualties amass from strange deaths,due to chemical poisoning, there will be a seige of interested parties making inquiries.

    -- Posted by Congressman on Tue, Mar 22, 2011, at 9:49 PM
  • You don't have to be a member of the legal community or a lawyer to know the things I've stated. It's the basics and it was taught in high school. My entire discussion was never about whether the land was contaminated before or not so I'm not sure why you're arguing that. It's been about you trying to blame everyone and anyone without knowing your facts about who is responsible for what. Oh, my bad, you're accusing city officials of accessory to murder because they collect taxes and don't override the State regulatory agencies. Even though the city doesn't have the authority to do that anyway.

    I'm not arguing that their was pollution down there but with all these "unknown city officials being accessories to murder, the Gazette is taking sides, NG owning the press, Senators, city officials" I'm sure that paranoia is definitely one of the side effects of it and everyone knows you can't debate the paranoid because the more you try the worse it gets.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Wed, Mar 23, 2011, at 11:56 AM
  • If you believe no one in the press or any of the government branches are not involved, you are either delusional or heavily medicated. This does not make anyone "paranoid", it makes them awake and aware. However persons of your point of veiw could care less about the cost to human lives, as long as you are able to worship the almighty dollar. That is what is more important to you, correct? The facts ARE: TRW, now NG is responsible for the poisoning of the residents in the surrounding areas. Senators, city officials, Congresspeople and the press ALL knew about it. SOME profitted by "donations" from these companies. Learn how to read an FEC filing before you go shooting off at the mouth and criticizing someone's education. For someone who learned so much in high school, your comprehension skills are very poor-or you are a typical member of the media who was trained to "spin" information. Nice attempt on your "discredit" technique also. Good day and enjoy your state of perpetual denial.

    -- Posted by Congressman on Wed, Mar 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM
  • @congressman

    How many homes were involved in McCook as a result of the TRW contamination? I can find only 1

    How many people have died in McCook as a result of the TRW contamination? I can find none

    What are your qualifications to read and interpret core samples?

    What are your qualifications to work on the behalf of the citizens poisoned by TRW,as well as representing the first responders to 9/11 and the Gulf oil spill from the BP platform?

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 6:43 PM
  • So full of questions boojum666! Here is one for you: Do you trust a company paid BY Northrup Grumman to give you an unbiased and honest answer?

    And a statement: You are not the parties that asked me to look into this, so I do not answer to you, just members of the group. If you are capable of reading English, then here are 177 pages of something that should you should read, because you will not get any honesty from those around you. http://thetruthdenied.com/work/2011-0217-McCook-Neiman%20SGS%20Report%20-%20adob...

    -- Posted by Congressman on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 12:39 AM
  • @congressman

    merely trying to find out if you should be given any

    respect or credence.

    you seem to be of the chem trail conspiracy theory mob.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 5:15 AM
  • @congressman

    "Conclusions

    The results of the soil vapor intrusion assessment indicate that the existing soil gas

    concentrations at residential locations on East 16th Street, East C Street, and 1507 East C

    Street do not pose a significant risk to human health through the indoor air migration

    pathway. This vapor intrusion assessment is considered complete and no further action is

    required."

    This one?

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 5:32 AM
  • @congressman

    "Risk Characterization for Residential Exposure Conditions

    The non-carcinogenic risks for each sample location and sample depth were estimated by

    adding the hazard quotient for each VOC, including TCE, PCE, and chloroform. The

    calculated total hazard quotients were below 1.0. Therefore, the potential exposure to

    chemical-affected indoor air will not cause chronic adverse health effects.

    Using the same methodology, the total carcinogenic risks for each sample location and

    sample depth were estimated by adding the cancer risk estimated for each VOC. In all

    cases, the estimated cancer risks were lower than the maximum acceptable risk level of

    1 in 1,000,000 established by the EPA for residential receptors. The following table shows

    the maximum estimated value for non-carcinogenic hazards and carcinogenic risks.

    Sample Depth

    Maximum Estimated Value

    Non-Carcinogenic

    Hazard

    Carcinogenic

    Risk

    5 feet 1.2 x 10

    -4

    1.1 x 10

    -8

    15 feet 3.5 x 10

    -5

    8.5 x 10

    -9

    Acceptable

    Residential Risk 1.0 1.0 x 10

    -6

    The results indicated that the levels of man-made chemicals remaining in soil gas near the

    former TRW facility do not represent a significant health threat to residential receptors

    located in the vicinity of the facility. The residual VOCs detected in soil gas should

    dissipate through time as natural fate processes act to attenuate the remaining residual

    concentrations."

    this part?

    Good report, it should reassure the residents of McCook that they are being protected.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 5:40 AM
  • "Good report, it should assure the residents of McCook that they are being protected" EXCEPT for a few FACTS. #1# Numerous mentions inside the report about "conservative estimates, without actual results under cement slabs of the homes" #2#The EPA has never set foot into the area to commission their own report. Do you really believe a company hired by NG is going to give their employer a report stating that the area is unsafe?

    #3#Just the tip of the iceberg, but are you aware there are MANY similar cases on the docket in these areas:Cases of TCE contaminated water

    Sullivan, Missouri[38]

    Minneapolis/St Paul, Minnesota http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/f...

    Maryvale, Arizona[39]

    Dayton, Ohio[40]

    Dublin, Pennsylvania

    Wichita, Kansas

    Shannon, Quebec and Val-Belair, Quebec[41] (scientists are using a new genetic technology to prove the link between TCE and a wide spectrum of cancer types for a class action[42]).

    Woburn, Massachusetts (the town from the book/movie A Civil Action)

    Camp Lejeune, North Carolina[43]

    Mountain View, California[44]

    Lisle, Illinois

    Scottsdale, Arizona (from the Indian Bend Wash Area Superfund site), in 2007[45] and 2008[46]

    Cambridge, Ontario[47]

    Salem, Ohio (Nease Chemical supplied the U.S. Army with chemicals for Agent Orange[48])

    Tucson, Arizona

    Walkersville, Maryland[49]

    Rockville, Maryland[50]

    Victor, New York

    Salina, Kansas

    Lancaster, Pennsylvania (from U.S. EPA, Region III) [51][52]

    Endicott, New York

    Vero Beach, Florida

    Livingston, Montana

    Quincy Township, Franklin County, Pennsylvania[53]

    Orillia, Ontario

    Wausau, Wisconsin[54]

    Sterling, Virginia[55]

    Elkhart, Indiana[56]

    Waterloo, Quebec

    "You seem to be of the chemtrail conspiracy mob". This is not related to chemtrails, that website is one of many that is following this incident. BTW, you should read this report on Geo-engineering given to our Congress in 2009.http://downloads.climatescience.gov/sap/sap2-3/sap2-3-final-report-all.pdf

    Conspiracy? NASA scientists are involved in a conspiracy?

    -- Posted by Congressman on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 9:14 AM
  • @ironcat

    name your names or step back.

    congressman cites a report then claims we can't believe what is written because NG has paid for it.

    If you have proof the report is false show it.

    Congressman why should be believe that your words have any more value than the reports of NG?

    Where are your test and reports to refute the tests as reported.

    Show us why your words are believable ironcat and congressman.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 6:29 PM
  • There will not be any stepping back. The ball is rolling, but we will not be wasting anymore time arguing with the blind. This group of victims will be vindicated.

    -- Posted by Congressman on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 6:36 PM
  • @congressman

    the ball is rolling is it? Why so reluctant to state your own proof?

    Obfuscating circular diatribes are hallmarks of the conspiracy theory nuts living on the net.

    No proof... only accusations... threats of dire outcomes... all very familiar to a open line caller.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 7:55 PM
  • *

    I don't have a pony in this race, but it sounds like ironcat and congressman are lawers of the kind that advertise at 3 in the afternoon about class action lawsuits.

    -- Posted by Sir Didymus on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 8:47 PM
  • "I work on behalf of citizens being poisoned in this incident as well as the 9/11 First Responders and the Gulf Coast/BP victims. I have viewed photos of residents in McCook that are growing chemical burns on their bodies due to the exposure of toxic vapors leeching into their homes. I have also viewed the core sample reports taken in January"

    I really wonder if the citizens know the amazing capabilities of the person working for them?

    I think i hear a black helicopter.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 10:50 PM
  • Boy I'm glad I moved out of McCook.

    -- Posted by rifleman on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 4:01 PM
  • join him ironcat

    There was a problem in McCook and it it being treated and solved. The test reports can be checked and verified to prove that the contamination has been eliminated.

    Endless fear, paranoia and distrust is your problem, and with that you would not be safe anywhere on this earth.

    Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 6:06 PM
  • ironcat

    "Risk Characterization for Residential Exposure Conditions

    The non-carcinogenic risks for each sample location and sample depth were estimated by

    adding the hazard quotient for each VOC, including TCE, PCE, and chloroform. The

    calculated total hazard quotients were below 1.0. Therefore, the potential exposure to

    chemical-affected indoor air will not cause chronic adverse health effects.

    Using the same methodology, the total carcinogenic risks for each sample location and

    sample depth were estimated by adding the cancer risk estimated for each VOC. In all

    cases, the estimated cancer risks were lower than the maximum acceptable risk level of

    1 in 1,000,000 established by the EPA for residential receptors."

    Did ya miss this part??

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 8:55 PM
  • "Bigger people are watching this now"

    ?? Who the heck would this be? Name your names ironcat or can't you?

    I double dog dare you to name names ;)

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 9:36 PM
  • ?? what the heck is chizz??

    the quote is from the same report you are reading,

    I didn't make them up. :)

    You need to step back and chill those black helicopters can home in on your emanations.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 10:57 PM
  • ironcat

    So if the EPA would have published the report you would have accepted it?

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 11:03 PM
  • ironcat

    you do know the only report we have be talking about is the one congressman cited in a earlier post right?

    I haven't made anything up. the only quotes have been from that very report. This is from a lab that has to meet standards to stay in business, they have no reason to misstate the findings, you will have to trust someone sometime or you will just get so agitated you will explode chill dude

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 11:14 PM
  • I finally figured out what "Chizz" is

    it is txt speak for Cheese Whiz! So next time i am at Pat's or Geno's I will ask "wit Chizz"

    I think your 3 minutes are up ironcat.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 10:57 AM
  • There we go, baseless accusations that I have property in the area trying to sell it to unsuspecting rubes. Another tactic of the conspiracy theory nuts.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 11:03 AM
  • ironcat

    If you are interested in some long range planning, I have some coastal property in Nevada for sale. ;)

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 11:09 AM
  • "Another tactic of conspiracy theory nuts" Ironcat, I would not even bother arguing with someone like this, since it is obvious they live in their mother's basement, listening to Marilyn Manson and plotting how to "get even" with the people who made fun of them in school. Maybe it is because they are inhaling all of the TCE and chloroform fumes. Don't bother trying to persuade the employees of NG, the only thing they care about is their cash cow leaving them jobless and broke. That is the point here. God forbid someone tries to help people being sickened by this chemical spill, what total bastards we are. We must be nuts! That is ok, the EPA will come soon and those affected will be vindicated, and able to leave knowing that they were correct. Let the rest of them stay behind and worship the almighty dollar. If they ever wake up to the truth, they can sit around and wait for their friends in the gubmint.

    -- Posted by Congressman on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 11:40 AM
  • there you go again congressman, baseless lies. Fishing are you?

    Its a free country, you must have the resources, since you are working for so many groups, hire your own testing company and do your own tests.. then we can discount your results.

    how about you? need some property? not too many holes in it, will throw in a case of Chizz.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 12:26 PM
  • I do not have to go fishing, and will have all of the evidence needed. The EPA will be in town soon. You can exercise your protest of your moms basement being condemned then, before you go over to your 4 hour shift at NG cleaning the restrooms. Baseless accusations? Please. Your fear is showing. This is the knee jerk reaction of someone that is so overly defensive. Besides the point, why would we disclose evidence on the comment section of a newspaper that the only goth rocker in McCook reads? That should have been the job of the editor, however that will never come to pass. Go back to painting your fingernails black, your government is in charge. You are free to do as they tell you.

    -- Posted by Congressman on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 1:47 PM
  • *

    Heh this whole series of posts are amusing me greatly. Congressman, I would have to think that most "goth rocker" would introject your arguments very well rather than argue against them. It has been my experience that most people sitting in their parents basement are more than willing to incorporate the types of conspiricies that you are putting forth into their world view. Basically you are coming across to me as saying 'I don't have to prove anything, the white hats are going to ride in and tear everyone down that disagrees with my rants! All I have to do is try and insult people that are too foolish to see that the prophecy is correct!'

    I expect Ironcat and congressmen will end up feeding into mike jr's irrational behavior soon.

    -- Posted by Sir Didymus on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 2:30 PM
  • wowweee congressman, wipe the spittal off your chin there boy. inhale some chemweb didya?

    HA What evidence?

    Just another conspiracy theory ranter all talk and no truth.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 2:38 PM
  • What? the FEDS have been watching this blog! Holy @#$#%. Do I feel foolish now or what, I could have gone straight to the top rather than bothering with these bottom feeders.

    The BIG one, wonder what that will be? economy sized Chizz maybe.

    Wrap the foil a bit tighter there ironcat, the bizzaro emanations are seeping out.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 3:23 PM
  • *

    The prophecy will be fullfilled! And all of those that mock will like the mockers of Noah be cast down by the all powerful FED!

    I wonder why he got so upset? I am pretty sure that "The Feds" trump a small town paper, not to mention someone posting on that website. Oh well, thanks for the laugh.

    -- Posted by Sir Didymus on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 8:50 PM
  • If you don't like it, move. No one is stopping you.

    -- Posted by FNLYHOME on Mon, Mar 28, 2011, at 8:42 AM
  • *

    Wow...Quite a thread of dialogue. On a slightly unrelated note, I lived in Nevada for 17 years and once saw a "fallout map" plotting the prevailing winds during the above ground nuclear testing days. This area of Nebraska was in the thickest band of the fallout zone. And now I'm wondering why I wanted to move here? :)

    That being said, I agree with ironcat who said that there exist strange illness in area residents. But I wonder how much can be attributed to 30 years of above ground testing in Nevada?

    I can also attest that I am aware of inadequate disposal measures of asbestos, asphalt, paint, solvents, herbicides, pesticides, and heavy metals in the area. Most of it was done by the general public in times of yore, when little was thought of burying these substances. However, some of the incedences have occured more recently, and some of these incidents have been reported in this very paper.

    PS - Congressman...having a chemical and safety background I can tell you that there would be no "fumes" from either TCE or chloroform. You would however find "vapors" of either of these chemicals. There is a simple test for TCE in either the bloodstream, urine or on the breath. Many doctors can conduct this test.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Mon, Mar 28, 2011, at 9:37 PM
  • @ironcat

    "In the midst of the word he was trying to say

    In the midst of his laughter and glee

    He had softly and suddenly vanished away

    For the Snark was a Boojum, you see."

    666 is just a highway

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Wed, Mar 30, 2011, at 9:50 PM
  • word

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Apr 1, 2011, at 5:58 PM
  • Just add some orange Kool-aide mix and Tebow will protect you.

    -- Posted by carlsonl on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:41 PM
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