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Five Wisconsin men charged with poaching, post $83,500 bond

Thursday, December 9, 2010

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A trailer-load of dead deer sits outside the Decatur County Courthouse in Oberlin, Kansas, Wednesday morning. Inside, five Wisconsin men were charged with poaching.
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OBERLIN, Kansas -- Five Wisconsin men have been charged in Oberlin, Kansas, with poaching trophy mule deer; the evidence was 16 dead deer loaded on a Kansas game warden's trailer and parked Wednesday morning outside the Decatur County Courthouse in Oberlin.

The men, all of whom share the same last name, made their first court appearance in Decatur County District Court on Wednesday morning, and each has a hearing scheduled Wednesday, Dec. 22, at 10 a.m.

Each is charged by the Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks with taking trophy mule deer buck illegally, a misdemeanor.

The men are:

* John H. Jacobs III, 53 years old, of 668 Fernando Drive, DePere, Wisconsin.

* Mark G. Jacobs, 45, of W 882 Bain Road, DePere.

* John H. Jacobs IV, 30, of 2824 Libal Street, Green Bay, Wisconsin.

* Paul J. Jacobs, 26, of 668 Fernando Drive, DePere.

* Joseph R. Jacobs, 23, 2122 Potter Drive, DePere.

Judge John Bremer set bond at $16,700 each; the men posted a total of $83,500, and were released.


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Scumbags. I hope they lose their hunting rights for life.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 1:10 PM

Can someone please explain how these brainiacs thought they could possibly pull a trailer across how many states with 16 dead deer and no one would question it?? IDIOTS.....

-- Posted by Steph on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 4:10 PM

I don't think they ahd them on the trailer it was the Gamey that put them there after they recoverd them.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 4:29 PM

Misdemeanor that's a joke!! Jail time and large fines, loss of hunting rights nation wide for life.

-- Posted by muleshank on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 5:40 PM

As a hunter, this makes me sick! Money sometimes means nothing to violators, loss of everything used in the violations is in order plus loss of privileges for the max the law allows.

At least this paper did not call them hunters.....

-- Posted by azbohunter on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 6:22 PM

Muhatma Gandhi once said

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"

Seems we,in this nation are not so "civilized"!!!

Another quote

"Animals are not brethen,they are not underlings; They are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time"

Henery Benson

Peace

Karen

-- Posted by kaygee on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 6:31 PM

Don't they have deer in Wisconsin?

On the other hand...Thinning out the deer makes for safer highways and healthier herds...but lets do it the right way fellas and follow the rules!

-- Posted by Mickel on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 9:34 PM

Kaygee who is we? Don't lump me in with these scumbags.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 10:30 PM

Article from Green Bay newspaper says the group used greyhounds and vehicles to round up the deer before they were shot.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/arti...

-- Posted by BuffRoam on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 10:40 PM

Let them kill as many as they want, there is way too many in Kansas and Nebraska but the stupid game dept's won't give more lic.

-- Posted by salamat on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 11:09 PM

Chaco1

The "we" is the moral fabric of our society. I dont lump you into any catigory of society.It was not a personal attack on you or any one else.

Take from the quotes that I submitted what you will. I hoped you wouild be enriched by them! Not take them as an attack on your person!

My quotes were but offerings.... food for thought to my fellow humans as a way to pave a way to be better care takers to this planet.

If I offened you ...I AM SORRY!!!~... But we really need...as people of intelgence...need to address the need for social communication.

If we canot respect the anmals and all the wonders life forms on this lonley planet...how can we expecet any one to respect...humans????????

Peace and Love

Karen

-- Posted by kaygee on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 12:35 AM

Kaygee these men are criminals period this is not a larger discussion about society and how we treat animals. I guess I am ust a litle puzzled about where you are coming from on this.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 9:11 AM

It would be interesting to know who invited, housed, fed, facilitated and gave permission for this family to conduct this hunt. Follow-up article is in order.

-- Posted by BuffRoam on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 12:12 PM

all i have to say to everyone out there making there little comments! how about u get the facts straight before you just start running your finger over keyboard and making comments!!!! a few less dear in this world is better then a few less people!!!!!!!! dear are replaceable humans arnt!!

-- Posted by kmenke on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 1:24 PM

kmenke, if you have more facts to share please share them. What happened that we have not read up to this point. Clear up the issue.

-- Posted by BuffRoam on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM

Chaco

I guess I am just looking at the larger picture and pointing out the not so obvious. This really is about how we treat animals if this kind of thing is happening. Just how did these men get to the point where they thought this kind of "hunting" was acceptable. They displayed a total lack of compassion and respect for the deer. A lack of morals and ethics that probably manifest in many other parts of their lives. I am guessing that this isnt the first time they did this or that they are the only ones doing it! The fact that they are related makes me wonder what kind of enviroment they were raised in.

I guess I am the kind of person who wonders how any one can behave in such a deplorable fasion and so I examine the larger picture to try to figgure out what went wrong. I find many answers in the obsevations of philosophers.

As I said before the quotes were offered as food for thought. Perhaps a opportunity to begin a diolouge that will find a way to prevent this sort of behavior.

Silly Me!!!!

Peace

-- Posted by kaygee on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 2:24 PM

Having hit four of the darn things with my car in the last several years and my wife having hit three, I am sure we can send some of the deer down here in Missouri to replace those 16. I work the evening shift and have near misses on a regular basis because of over population. I can probably count that many laying on the road on my 28 mile commute.

What I don't understand is why they didn't just stay in Wisconsin unless they afraid of the wasting disease present in the deer up there because of over population. I for one see these guys as less of a threat than the mountain lions being reintroduced to thin out the herds.

-- Posted by nebraskamike on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 2:39 PM

What's funny about this is how they all have the same last name. I'd guess that this was a family affair. That'll make for a fun Christmas story in the future.

"Hey, do you remember when John and the boys got arrested for poaching deer?"

"Yeah, that was hilarous!"

-- Posted by bjo on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 4:02 PM

They will be celebrating Christmas in Oberlin on the 22nd. Let's all go down and give them our best wishes.

-- Posted by BuffRoam on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM

People that do this upset me... It's not that we don't have enough deer around... It's the object that out-of-staters hunt where ever they want to with no regards to the law.. We have caught people on our private land that is visibly marked NO Hunting. Another part that really burns my hide is dumping of a previous shot deer for a bigger one or just taking the rack and dumping the rest.. There are people that are less fortunate and could use the meat... what a waste.

-- Posted by dahlinova on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 4:38 PM

This sickens me!! I have hunted around my entire life and have never seen a killing in regards to hunting like this. (killing not hunting) sorry! These fellas have no respect for deer or animals for that matter! Put these guys on a farm for awhile and then maybe they would have respect. Make them work at there local zoo even! That is were they belong! Behind bars!!!

-- Posted by radar on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 7:10 PM

From the post above: we should all go to the courthouse on the 22nd. It would be worth it to hear what they would have to say. I don't even want them back down here. geez this makes me mad!! We as hunters are defending our rights all the time and you got these clowns who really get the pot boiling! Thanks Jacobs for abusing our right to hunt!!

-- Posted by radar on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 7:17 PM

""all i have to say to everyone out there making there little comments! how about u get the facts straight before you just start running your finger over keyboard and making comments!!!! a few less dear in this world is better then a few less people!!!!!!!! dear are replaceable humans arnt!!""

-- Posted by kmenke on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 1:24 PM

From Green Bay newspaper article --

""accusing the men of running the deer illegally using greyhounds and vehicles"

Ok kmenke... were these men saving humans by chasing deer with dogs and trucks and shooting them down? Maybe YOU need to get your facts straight. Or atleast try and make a little sense!

-- Posted by _banned_ on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 7:41 PM

actually, humans are as replacable as deer, its called procraration.

-- Posted by president obama on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 7:55 PM

actually, humans are as replacable as deer, its called procraration.

-- Posted by president obama on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 7:57 PM

It's called PROCREATION!

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 8:30 PM

ah, good old "chunky peanut butter" never anything intelligent to say but always there.

-- Posted by remington81 on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 9:39 PM

How I miss Calvin and Hobbes.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w3lDIQSvd0c/TP...

(Pic related)

-- Posted by Damu on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 9:38 AM

"As I said before the quotes were offered as food for thought. Perhaps a opportunity to begin a diolouge that will find a way to prevent this sort of behavior."

Kaygee we can not solve all the worlds problems unfortunately Law Enforcement is reactive not proactive and huge fines, loss of hunting privelages, Loss of all equipment uiseed in this illegal activity and jail time is what is needed to at least end this incident. Will these idiots stop this kind of behavior? I doubt it they are CRIMINALS. The criminal mindset is one of entitlement and self absorption. Unfortunately this is merely a misdemaenor a felony and they could not own guns any more.

We can have a larger discussion about how people get to this point if you would lke but the focus here is this incident and these scumbags.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 11:06 AM

81...How were your reading comprehension scores in school? Not so hot I'll bet.

-- Posted by hulapopper on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 11:34 AM

I have a few beers and mistype, so sue me. If you know what im trying to say, and I know what im trying to say then shut up.

-- Posted by president obama on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 1:32 PM

Chaco

So what you are saying is that you do not beleive that this is the proper venue to begin a diolouge along this line.

I would like to know, where, then SHOULD we begin this discussion?!?

I think perhaps you and the others here would prefer to vent than examine the causes and prevention of this obcene event.

So I will seek another avenue to discuss this with people who want to do some thing besides bitch.

I think it is time to take a break from this paper. I find the mind set of the people here very discoraging.

So sorry to have bothered you.

-- Posted by kaygee on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 3:36 PM

Anyone else start singing john jacob jingleheimer schmidt after reading the names?

-- Posted by npwinder on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 10:50 PM

Watch out Dasher, Dancer, Prancer & Vixen, take cover Comet, Cupid, Donner and Blitzen. And if you have to, please take a bullet

for Rudolph.

-- Posted by Keda46 on Mon, Dec 13, 2010, at 1:00 AM

The Problem i see, is that the fines & punishment for all poacher, are not great enough! The states need to get together an set fines an punishment that would prevent all poacher form ever doing this kind of thing again! These People are not hunters! They don't have any ethic!

-- Posted by Toady on Mon, Dec 13, 2010, at 8:40 PM

I live in the area where these were poached and an an avid hunter myself. To me these deer were taken from some with a license and ethics, one of these could have been taken by someone trying to teach their young child to hunt. Pathetic I think. Yes we have a lot of deer in Kansas but if you keep your eyes on the road and not on your texting machine we could cut those accidents down also, My ? is what were the doing with these deer,either extremely hungry or maybe selling them for $ How many times have they done this before different states and not got caught. Maybe we need to check this out. Seems we have a Game Warden that does his job, maybe we need to get the Fed's involved.

Planning on being if the court room on the 22nd to watch this.

-- Posted by horses 6 on Tue, Dec 14, 2010, at 7:27 PM

I don't live in the Oberlin Area but I was wondering if anyone knew a couple of things. Has anybody heard exactly where at from Oberlin these deer were taken from or confirmed the property they allegedly trespassed on? Did they stock the dead ones at a certain location while hunting? How did they finally get caught, I would think that they probably didn't have permission from anyone?

-- Posted by LP_7 on Tue, Dec 14, 2010, at 8:49 PM

here r some of the fact: they did have permits for the deer they just was not tagged in the feild. the game warden went to one person house and that where the dear where at. on another note greyhounds r used to coyote hunt not dear hunt. if any of u have ever been around greyhounds u would know that they r not fast enough to catch a deer.there is also no evidence that they used greyhound and why would they use greyhounds. these guys did have permission to hunt in kansas and they r very well liked guys around this area. but hey how about u guys just set there and judge them bc u know exactly what happened. i am think NOT so much. so how about we all go back to our own lives and judge ourself bc i am guessing that u all have made mistakes in ur own lives.

-- Posted by kmenke on Thu, Dec 16, 2010, at 6:21 PM

kmenke,

???...?

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Fri, Dec 17, 2010, at 4:29 PM

A scottish deer hound can catch a red deer but I'm not sure if a gray hound could catch a mule deer. Neither could catch a deer in rough terrain. I'm sure a Grayhound bus could catch a deer and has many time

-- Posted by Keda46 on Mon, Dec 20, 2010, at 1:34 AM

LP_7 are you a dumbass? 5 non-residents had 16 mule deer permits? I don't think so. There is only one of two reasons you don't tag a deer. Either you don't have a permit and/or you plan on shooting additional deer. A mistake is one thing, we all make them. Shooting and not tagging 16 deer is POACHING, not a mistake.

-- Posted by kansashntr on Fri, Dec 24, 2010, at 11:43 PM

Sorry LP_7, I meant kmenke, not you.

-- Posted by kansashntr on Fri, Dec 24, 2010, at 11:46 PM

wow, talk about english as a second language.

-- Posted by president obama on Sat, Dec 25, 2010, at 10:23 AM

Seems that a couple of people in the Oberlin area are lookingat indictments and one of the charges is a felony. That would be great then these jerks could not legally own a gun anymore.

-- Posted by Chaco1 on Sat, Dec 25, 2010, at 11:02 AM

The illegal shooting of a deer may be a misdemeanor. But the planning of a group to engage in a criminal enterprise is more severe then that. This group conspired to come into another state use trained dogs and fire weapons at night to kill these trophy deer.These criminal profited from their crimes. There is certainly a criminal conspiracy taking place that can be made into a felony case and if the right prosectors are involved a RICO case can be made.

-- Posted by jonf1023 on Mon, Dec 27, 2010, at 7:47 AM

NOW.....

CAN WE HAVE A OPEN A DIOLOUG ON WHY THIS HAPPEND ??? OR DO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE ON THIS POINTLESS BLATHERING OF USLESS CRAP????

-- Posted by kaygee on Fri, Dec 31, 2010, at 11:16 PM

What you need is a few Alaskan wolves in the midwest the Deer population will get under control then.

-- Posted by greb on Sat, Jan 1, 2011, at 1:10 AM

Ok kaygee, it's called greed.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Sat, Jan 1, 2011, at 3:27 PM

What finally happened with the poachers?

-- Posted by bardiamond on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 4:57 PM


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