Thoughts Beyond 9-11

Posted Thursday, September 9, 2010, at 6:25 PM
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  • tremendous

    -- Posted by doodle bug on Thu, Sep 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM
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    I was praying to Zeus on that day but he didn't answer. :(

    -- Posted by Damu on Fri, Sep 10, 2010, at 8:37 AM
  • For those of faith, we get it. Not all prayers are answered but I believe they are all heard. Even Jesus didn't get everything he prayed for but he always deferred to God's will and the Lord was always present with Him as he is with all of us whether we choose to accept Him or not. He's right there waiting for us to reach out. It takes great humility for us to defer to a will other than our own. Some have it, some don't but all reap what they have sown, good or bad. In times of tragedy, our faith is a strong comfort even when it is ridiculed by others.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Fri, Sep 10, 2010, at 3:51 PM
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    Whats the point in praying anyway, since god being omnipotent already knows what you need. He has to hear it out of your mouth?

    -- Posted by Damu on Fri, Sep 10, 2010, at 4:55 PM
  • i'm with you mccook1

    -- Posted by doodle bug on Fri, Sep 10, 2010, at 5:16 PM
  • Prayer opens us to listen to God.

    God answers every prayer. Sometimes He says, "no." Sometimes, "yes." Most of the time, He says, "Wait, I have something better for you."

    He sent His Son to show His love for every human. He is with each child at conception .... and He knew each of us before that event. He is with us every moment, ready to bring us Home ... or allow us to choose to go elsewhere.

    Occasionally, He works miracles, causing things to happen that are not natural. Usually, He allows life to proceed as WE choose, because He gave us the free will to act in our own wisdom. It's just too bad that so many of us are so totally unwise.

    -- Posted by MrsSmith on Sun, Sep 12, 2010, at 4:53 PM
  • When Jesus prayed for himself to be spared He said: "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will." Jesus asked to be spared but deferred to God's will. As Christians we believe in following the example of Jesus. We must be willing to sacrifice our own will for God's will like Jesus did.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Mon, Sep 13, 2010, at 2:55 PM
  • Let's see, Christ Jesus offers Himself to be sacrificed and removes the burden of sin of of all humanity. The profit of Islam, Mohammad, kills hundreds and thousands of "infidels" by beheadings. Should be an easy choice there.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Mon, Sep 13, 2010, at 4:55 PM
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    Gods dad kind of did a number on humanity before becoming all wishy washy as well.

    -- Posted by Damu on Mon, Sep 13, 2010, at 7:03 PM
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    Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

    You guys don't behead just stone to death. I suppose that's better right?

    -- Posted by Damu on Mon, Sep 13, 2010, at 7:15 PM
  • Guillermo,

    If you recall, as I'm sure you do, it was Pharaoh who first ordered the newborn sons of Israel thrown into the river. Apparently this angered God greatly, because He did it with and exclamation point. Remembering, as I'm sure you do, the Israelites were Gods chosen people.

    But then again, as an atheist, you cannot possibly believe this happened. Therefore, you trying to argue this point is useless.

    The same to Damu. You are an atheist, the Scriptures are meaningless to you. Even more meaningless, is you trying to use the Scriptures against us. As is evidenced by your use of Exodus 22:19, you cannot even begin to understand the meaning of that verse, without the context of the entire Bible.

    And remember, Mohammad was a man. He ran from death rather than facing it. He formed allegiance with non-believers.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Mon, Sep 13, 2010, at 10:06 PM
  • The Old Testament of Christianity is almost identical across Christianity, Judaism and Islam. The differences comes from the New Testament of Christianity with the teachings of Jesus, the Jewish belief that he was not our Saviour and Mohammed who incited a lot of violence. Our difference from Judaism is that we DO believe Jesus was our Lord and Saviour.

    As Christians we choose to follow Jesus and his teachings. Jesus taught us to love Him above all the other people in our lives. Jesus chose to spread his message through the power of God's Word because making someone worship God by force is to steal any chance of that person from becoming righteous because there is nothing righteous about being made to do something by force.

    Jesus also never taught tolerance of religions, agnostics or atheists. he taught the exact opposite. He said,

    "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man's enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who finds his life shall lose it and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." However, He also taught us not to exclude and condemn those who are most in need of salvation. He also spoke in metaphors and His actions back up the fact that He didn't mean a literal sword but he knew there would be division. He understood the reward of salvation for those who believe in Him was far better than the condmenation for those who didn't. He'd love everyone to follow Him but He knew that it wouldn't work out that way, unfortunately.

    Jesus didn't come here for those who believe, he came for those who didn't believe. He knew it was them who needed Him. If your daughter is sick, you don't leave her at home and take your son to the doctor. If you believe and have been saved but your friend has not, Jesus is not going to ignore the friend and focus on your salvation.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Tue, Sep 14, 2010, at 1:04 PM
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    @CPB Whats amazing is the way your able to completely disregard Islam but continue to vehemently fight for your christianity.

    Why did god feel the need to Punish the innocents under pharaoh? Simply for retaliation? That doesn't sound kind or just to me :(. It amazes me that your not able to see the parallels between the two. Actually, perhaps you can, you just forcibly shut it out?

    Also I wasn't sure if you missed it or not. I'm re posting the children's website so you can get an idea about evolution. I know the concepts from the video were difficult to digest.

    -- Posted by Damu on Tue, Sep 14, 2010, at 2:06 PM
  • What started as a faithful dedication to those who lost their lives on 9/11 has somehow turned into a ridicule of faith and somehow into a Christianity as opposed to Islam debate (to which I'm guilty of being drawn into) and that does no justice to the original intent of the blog itself to provide comfort through our Christian faith.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Tue, Sep 14, 2010, at 4:48 PM
  • Did Jesus Christ ever Himself kill, or ordered His followers to kill? Absolutely not. We will all die because we have sinned, proven fact, we all will die.

    There is NO violence that Christianity ever inspired. It was inspired by mere humans consumed by greed. There is nothing in the New Testament that tell us to kill.

    Again, Guillermo, your blood thirsty hatred of Christians exposes its self.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Tue, Sep 14, 2010, at 10:08 PM
  • Where did Jesus Christ ever say to use violence as a means of conversion? Where? Where did Jesus Christ ever say to kill homosexuals? Where?

    I realize this is a difficult concept for you to understand, Christians follow the path laid out before us by Jesus Christ, hence the name Christians. To be a Christian, one must follow His path completely.

    You don't merely criticize, as you state you do, you lie, you exaggerate, you take out of context.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Wed, Sep 15, 2010, at 4:21 PM
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    @CPB So then if you only follow Christ's teachings, then the rest of the bible is irrelevant to you?

    I don't understand the logic that you employ to look at a holy book in only one section, while disregarding the rest. The whole thing is the word of God to you correct? Another interesting question, do you think that when humans were deciding which books went into the bible and when all the holy days would be "established" god was pushing them to have them coincide with pagan holidays? Does that make sense to you?

    -- Posted by Damu on Wed, Sep 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM
  • You may be correct in your assessment Guillermo, there may be a very few authentic Christians out there.

    Damu, please re-type your post with correct punctuation, so that it makes sense. Then perhaps I will try to answer your question (?).

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Wed, Sep 15, 2010, at 6:48 PM
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    @CPB The post makes perfect sense if you have any kind of comprehension skills whatsoever.

    -- Posted by Damu on Thu, Sep 16, 2010, at 11:12 AM
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    Fume Face easily has the most entertaining posts on here.

    -- Posted by Damu on Fri, Sep 17, 2010, at 10:31 AM
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