Spy vs Spy

Posted Wednesday, February 3, 2010, at 8:13 AM
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  • SLICKER,

    It calculates the corporate boys did not have a qualified western water attorney on retainer.

    Not the first time a Southern California based or East Coast based corporate crowd came up with a scheme to expropriate western water rights.

    Could be these fat cats did not want to know the legal facts about denying public access to western streams.

    The same ploy has been tried all along the California coast, with massive land holdings (i.e.-The Hearst Ranch, various Monterey Bay developers, Pebble Beach Corporation, Sea Ranch and others), attempting to deny public access to Pacific Coast beaches below high tide marks.

    Residents and visitors walking the beaches would encounter private security ORDERING THEM TO TURN AROUND AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

    Yep, it usually required court action to correct the situation. Usually local elected officials acted, but sometimes private citizens had to hire attorneys and pay costs for civil litigation.

    When repeated violations of court orders developed, eventually the courts began awarding costs and damages.

    That usually stopped the attempted "grab."

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 2:25 PM
  • HELLO MR.McCook,

    Our grandfather JOHN ABELES born nebraska,plus he help the us get water rights done in the us.He installed all wells is 15 states back in 1800"s.His father laid all the train track and in the us.PLUS JOHN ABELES WAS ONE OF KINGS IN WAR WATERS IN HISTORY..THIS CITY WE LIVE IN THEY DONT GIVE THE ABELES AT ALL..PLUS THEY TREAT MYSELF AND 3 BROTHERS

    NO BODIES CALL US NAMES DESTROY OUR WATER SOLD OUR WELLS AND OTHERS PROPERTIES MY GRANDFATHERS LEFT US

    THEY BEEN COLLECTING MONIES FOR 51 YEARS AND OUR FAMILY NEVER GOT OR SAW ANY $$$$$..THEY LOCK US OUT OF HOME FORCE US TO SELL..WE DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR WATER RIGHTS OR MINERAL RIGHTS AND AIR SPACE RIGHTS,ALL THE WATER RIGHTS OUR COPYRIGHT THRU (EATON CROWN)UNDER QUEEN OF ENGLAND

    WE HAVE BEEN HOMELESS FOR ALMOST 5 YRS.WE SUED THE 1ST LAWYER FOR SELLING US.OUT STEPHEN R WADE WHICH WE FEEL THAT HE AND CITY MUST GOT MONIES ON WATER RIGHTS WERE TRYING TO FIND OUT..STILL PLEASE IF YOU CAN HELP US OUT IN ANY WAY? CAUSE THE CITY OFFICIALS OUT HERE GOT EVERY ONE IN THERE POCKET PLUS CONTROL THE COURT AND COUNTY RECORDS COUNTY RECORDS. THEY SOLD EVERYTHING TO LA AIRPORT IN 1966..OUR GRANDFATHER DIED MAY 3,1961..

    THANK YOU

    JOHN AND TERESA ABELES

    909-238=226

    -- Posted by John and Teresa on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, at 4:38 PM
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