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A Reasonable Question

Posted Sunday, December 20, 2009, at 9:58 AM

Several blog entries here at the Gazette have been directed toward the abortion issue. One conservative blogger here often brings up the number of abortions as being a major liberal accomplishment which causes an obvious liberal to comment asking how many unwanted children have been adopted by those that are against abortion.

The liberals question is quite valid from a pratical standpoint. A quick Google search showed that for the last year that reports are available, there were 129,000 adoptions, with 133,000 children waiting to be adopted in the USA. In that same year, there were over 1,000,000,000 abortions.

Since there are already 100,000 kids waiting to be adopted, and this includes children in foster homes not newborns, how would society deal with 10 times the number of unwanted children if abortion became illegal as advocated by some?


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Slicker,

The abortion/adoption numbers are staggering.

A couple in the next block adopted a year-old girl, struggled desperately for almost a year to make it work, before realizing they could not survive with a "crack baby."

Even with a nearly a dozen surrogate grandparents spending many hours attempting to play with the child.

That child will be institutionalized for her entire life.

The chief of staff of a major Chicago hospital hospital has told me that at least 60% of all abortions in the Great Lakes Region -- Upstate New York to Duluth -- involve pregnancies severely impacted by drugs and STDs (HIV/Aids, Syphilis,etc.)

As a devout Catholic, the human toll crushes his soul.

Yet, he recognizes this country is not equipped to handle more than a half-million severely drug impacted infants, or deal with a quarter million HIV positive babies.

The cost -- Every HIV/Crack Baby requires more investment of medical services than a half-dozen typical 60-85-year-old Medicare patients.

Which means simply, THREE MILLION Seniors would be required to forfeit medical care, to provide for those damaged fetuses.

Is there an easy answer?

NO.

Is there a moral answer?

NO.

Is there any answer?

Not totally, but continuing the present path of reproductive ignorance for our young people, coupled with the near total lack of training for personal financial management -- does not provide any answer -- OR HOPE.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Dec 21, 2009, at 6:47 PM

Truthfully, it is an age old problem. Children conceived outside a safe home with the needs of life present.

Even sadder is our culture of entitlement that provides all kinds of assistance to those not prepared financially or emotionally for parenthood. Did you know that it is a federal law that anyone on Medicaid must be offered maternity services? Then enables those who are already on assistance to transfer the cost of childbirth to the taxpayer for children they already cannot afford to raise. So with impunity they send the bill to the taxpayer via Medicaid, Medicare, ADC, SCHIP, SNAP.

Abortions are not the solution, they are the symptom that America is not accountable, so women with too few resources and no responsibility reproduce, with no personal consequence. The result of the culture of entitlement.

-- Posted by shredder09 on Tue, Dec 22, 2009, at 1:05 PM

Eureka!! I just witnessed four offerings that all make sense, IMO. Thank you all, Brian, Fredd, HerndonHank, and shredder09. Merry Christmas to you all, and THANK YOU, ALL (Had to shout that one).

May 2010 be a year of healing, and rebuilding the right character that our Nation should have.

If we continue to function (especially Congress, and White House) as we have this 2009, we may well be doomed to collapse, especially financial.

Keep your cool, and wisdom, as it may well be sorely needed in 2010 (anon).

In Messiah, Jesus, His Blessing and Guidance on you all. Arley

-- Posted by Navyblue on Tue, Dec 22, 2009, at 4:27 PM

Prisons are over-crowding. Shall we just execute every new offender since there is no room?

I have to assume that you meant 1 million abortions per year, not 1 billion.

Regardless, the morality issue has to be a part of the discussion and solution. There are other options, and to ignore them in favor of the "quick fix" is immoral to say the least.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Tue, Dec 22, 2009, at 4:31 PM

Husker,

I was in my early teens and green as spring grass when two of us got off our horses to flag down any traffic (if any came).

Helping while the local ambulance crew and a deputy took a hemmoraging girl from the back seat of her boy friend's car.

Only realized the situation later when he went to state prison for five years for being involved in the abortion which took her life.

That was during the early years of WWII.

You never heard any of the words which are common on the evening news today.

The problems increased with each new factor -- The Pill--The Playboy Revolution--Fem Lib--The Full Sexual Revolution--Hippiedom/Tie Dye/Timothy Leary and LSD--

More drugs (Heroin/Cocaine/Marijuana/Synthetics and Estacsy).

Back in the 80s a light plane landed at Chadron with a huge drug shipment meant for Denver, Omaha Omaha, Minneapolis and Chicago.

A huge shipment of human misery and probably dozens, if not hundreds of abortions, plus thousands of property crimes and assaults.

The Mexican border is a war zone as heroin, pot, meth and cocaine traffickers fight for access to the U.S.

How many abortions are being shipped within each plastic sealed kilo of drugs?

And we still have a huge percentage of our people who attempt to look at it in the most simplistic terms.

And that's a major reason, this country is not solving any of its problems.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Tue, Dec 22, 2009, at 5:44 PM

fredd,

Every law legislates morality. Just as laws against murder can't stop them all, laws against abortion can't stop them all. They could, however, save millions of lives...literally.

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Wed, Dec 23, 2009, at 7:53 AM

Brian,

Why would every not-aborted child end up in the adoption stream?

In your figures, did you account for the huge number of foreign children adopted every year?

Are you aware that adoption can cost tens of thousands of dollars? How many people would adopt more children if they could use that money to support them, instead of to "buy" them?

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Wed, Dec 23, 2009, at 7:56 AM

http://www.antiochadoptions.org/

Are you aware that some churches, like the one that support the above ministry, have begun to assist people with "no fee" adoptions...specifically to save as many children as possible?

Why does it cost $200 to murder a child, but $20,000 to adopt one? What does that say about our REAL values, people?

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Wed, Dec 23, 2009, at 8:02 AM

Why don't you fredd. Hypocrite.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Wed, Dec 23, 2009, at 10:37 AM

Mrs Smith said...

Why would every not-aborted child end up in the adoption stream?

In your figures, did you account for the huge number of foreign children adopted every year?

Are you aware that adoption can cost tens of thousands of dollars? How many people would adopt more children if they could use that money to support them, instead of to "buy" them?

Good questions Mrs Smith.

1. I believe that all non aborted children would certainly not end up in the adoption stream, but you have to wonder how many would. I purposely stated 1 million, though it shows a billion (my mistake) as this number is nearly a quarter million less than the known number. I guess my point is that there isn't a simple answer... see #3 below.

2. The numbers stated do include foreign adoption that have been registered in the US.

3. As a person that has benefited from being adopted, I know more about the adoption process and costs than most. The fact that people seem to need almost unlimited funds to adopt just sounds wrong, but it isn't all that simple in my opinion either. Health care costs, especially with children with developmental problems and worse from drug abuse during pregnancy can be staggering. Few people really have the foresight to understand just how tough raising special needs kids can be. Institutions are full of developmentenal challenged people of all ages. We pay now, how would we pay for many more?

I don't want people to get the wrong idea about my feelings about abortion. I have a special reason for being against it... whoever my birth mother was didn't have one, other wise...

-- Posted by Brian Hoag on Wed, Dec 23, 2009, at 6:40 PM


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