Father of the Year

Posted Saturday, January 19, 2013, at 7:32 PM
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  • Arley

    Speaking of Father of the Year Award -- maybe some of these outstanding examples should have been nominated.

    http://bishop-accountability.org/priestd...

    Take your blinders off -- you are only seeing what you want to see.

    -- Posted by Geezer on Sun, Jan 20, 2013, at 11:05 AM
  • Thank you, Geezer, I had never seen that list, and wow, is it a long one. But then, I was passing on an article about 'Father of the Year' awards, not 'Priests Bound for Hell' awards. Both of which, I pray would be as repugnant to you as are with me.

    I have never been a Priest, so have no expertise in their motivations and behavior, but, I presume, you as well as I have had some experience in being a Biological Father, and further presume, we, both, served in the position of 'father' to our best ability, and worth of emulation. I won't mention the 'apples and oranges' comparative, pro and con, aspects between Clergy and Politician, nor the fact that I was addressing the world at large in my prose. What you offer, does, for sure, IMO, strengthen what I address, the insanity of 'Right' being 'Wrong,' and vise-a-verse.

    I am sorry that you feel I wear blinders, I presume, because I don't have your standards, nor mentality, of proper behavior and thought. Oh, well, I wasn't really trying to do that, only offer food for thought, and, I guess, I did that, or your wouldn't have tried to help me out, so to speak.

    Be well, and Keep the Watch, Redemption does draw nigh.

    -- Posted by Navyblue on Sun, Jan 20, 2013, at 12:03 PM
  • -- Posted by Benevolus on Sun, Jan 20, 2013, at 12:29 PM
  • Thank you for your input, Benevolus. I was expecting you to provide me with information, and also outside the focus offered, but I now seem to have an excellent portfolio, of 'Bad fathers' on both sides of the Political spectrum, plus Priestly Bad Fathers.

    If you all want to further discuss, please do, but I offered the bit of poetry, and the article, for info to ponder, (personality shredding optional).

    Have a nice day.

    -- Posted by Navyblue on Sun, Jan 20, 2013, at 1:22 PM
  • You are most welcome, Navy. Glad to be of service. I hope your next poem points out the problems with Conservatism. That would be very interesting.

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Sun, Jan 20, 2013, at 3:27 PM
  • It would be very short poem, since Conservatism has no faults.

    -- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Sun, Jan 20, 2013, at 10:46 PM
  • Yes. I am certain that you are convinced of this. No surprise coming from you.

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 12:27 AM
  • Well, list them.

    -- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 5:29 AM
  • Dear Dear Benevolus, after reading your comment, above, to CPB (who said rightly, mostly, IMO), the very next email I viewed, I believe was a word for your heart:

    "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." - 1 Corinthians 2:14

    If you could find it in your heart to accept the sacrifice Jesus made, to Redeem you from the 'price of Sin,' you might be able to understand His word, and know His Love. We will pray you see your need for Jesus' Blessing, until the need is no longer needed, so to speak.

    Baruch Atah (blind deposit, until true)

    -- Posted by Navyblue on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 9:10 AM
  • CPB,

    One problem underlying Conservatism is the blind faith that replacing government with free-market forces is the solution to everything. Reality and history shows us that the free-market can be just as ineffectual, totalitarian, harmful, etc., as any government. The difference is 'we the people' cannot elect CEO's.

    Another failing of Conservatism is that in practice, the beneficiaries of conservative policies are very often the wealthy families and corporate executives who bankrolled the Republican Party in the first place.

    Which brings me to another failing. Conservatism is NOT in-keeping with Biblical principles. In fact, it is at odds with much of what Jesus taught. This is not a problem per se, but Conservatives often hide behind Jesus while ignoring what he taught about the meek and poor.

    Conservatism is by its very nature is inflexible, and thus, the philosophy has a difficult time adjusting to new circumstances. This is why Conservative leaders met this weekend to try to figure out (among other things) how they can better market Conservatism to women, Latinos, Blacks, and Asians. What they fail to understand is that generally speaking these groups tend to fundamentally disagree with the core principles of Conservatism, but Conservative leaders are convinced that its a marketing issue, not a philosophical issue. This failure will cause the rift between women and minorities and Conservatives to grow ever larger.

    But the largest problem with Conservatism is that it is a myth. Whenever a "Conservative" gets elected, they are spend-crazy, they expand and over-reach government, avert the Constitution, engage in corruption and illegal policies, they lie to the American public...just like any other group of politicians.Then we hear 'well they aren't real Conservatives'. But the thing is, there never has been a 'real Conservative' because like unicorns or the Easter Bunny, 'real Conservatism' is a myth.

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 12:39 PM
  • Navy,

    Thanks for your concern. Sincerely. But I have to say, it is unnecessary. I understand that converting you to reasonableness, rationality, and logic is a losing endeavor on my part...you might save yourself some time by understanding that converting me to any faith, irrationality, and/or an illogical religion is equally unlikely.

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 12:43 PM
  • No Benevolus, you missed it. Conservatism begins with the individual, striving to do the best they can, as opposed to artificially lifting the non-efforts of those who don't in the name of equality.

    Conservatives strive to make the best and moral decisions that affect their lives today, knowing that these choices allow their futures to take care of itself, as opposed to those who absolve themselves of the responsibity and look to the equalizing forces of a central figure.

    Conservatives believe work should be rewarded. Not only for themselves, but those who work for them. This is the free market enterprise thinking of conservatism. Those willing to put in the dedication and work to earn a college degree, make the effort to learn a trade and do the best they can at work, are rewarded for their efforts, as opposed to overpaying those who don't.

    Conservatives obey the laws and live within them, as opposed to bending the laws to suit themselves. Conservatives do believe in traditional marriage because history has proven it to be the best for the life of a child. Conservatives do not believe that abortion is a solution, but rather a failure.

    Conservatives believe in freely giving much more of themselves and their resources to the poor and needy, as opposed to the rest of the world. There is no hiding that fact.

    Of course, we, just like the rest of the world, are subject to the sin of greed, as in the lust for money and power. Politics seems to bring that out in all good people regardless which side they believe. Still, Jesus saves.

    -- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 4:52 PM
  • You have perfectly constructed the myth of the conservative. This conservative you speak must live with Sasquatch, because even though wild-eyed believers insist that he is real, nobody has ever actually documented the person you describe.

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 4:57 PM
  • We're here...

    -- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 6:30 PM
  • Dishonestly so...

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Mon, Jan 21, 2013, at 7:04 PM
  • CPB

    How does your definition of Conservatism fit in with the various Political Groups often referred to as the Far Right? Are there distinct differences and variations of ideology which produces a sort of demarcation line - so clear to the observer that identifying those with true Conservative values is blatantly apparent? Or are there just different levels of Conservatism or part time Conservatism?

    I have included a link to a recent study by the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point for your review. It is titled - "Challenges from the Sidelines, Understanding Americas Violent Far-Right" -.

    http://www.ctc.usma.edu/wp-content/uploa...

    -- Posted by Geezer on Tue, Jan 22, 2013, at 1:50 PM
  • Yes Geezer, I've seen that link. Is the government going to attack those with "far right" thinking? Would you support that? Is it a violation of our Constitution?

    Your first lines of questions have no signs of coherent thought at all, so I cannot give you an answer.

    -- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Tue, Jan 22, 2013, at 3:22 PM
  • Your question is perfectly clear, Geezer (but probably too complex for CPB).

    I think it may be that he simply doesn't know if there is a difference between "far right" Conservatism and mainstream Conservatism, or how to answer as to whether or not they are distinct philosophies at all.

    What is your take, Geezer?

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Tue, Jan 22, 2013, at 5:42 PM
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