The Southern Boys

Posted Saturday, October 29, 2011, at 6:29 AM
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  • Reminds me of the Alabama immigration law.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/...

    Seems illegals are horrible until it affects you directly.

    -- Posted by bberry on Sat, Oct 29, 2011, at 8:57 AM
  • I find no fault picking up work where others refuse to do it, be it Republican, Democrat, Legal, Illegal, or otherwise. If anything Mr. Eldridge probably deserves a little more respect.

    -- Posted by bberry on Sat, Oct 29, 2011, at 2:29 PM
  • Sam,

    Solid blog. Nice work. Your thinking about undocumented workers seems to be getting more sophisticated. That's great. I enjoyed reading this blog and your experiences with the hard working "southern boys."

    But I had to laugh at the end. Seriously, what is the "illegal immigrant vote"?

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Sat, Oct 29, 2011, at 2:41 PM
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    Interesting. I seem to be feeling deja vu. One seemingly rational new poster who initially claims to be neither conservative or liberal, a couple of new rediculously to the right posters.... All that we are missing is an offensive far to the left person that likes to be "wacky". I seem to remember something like this happening quite a while back. Oh well, I am sure it they will all implode after a while. Someone should get ahold of Mike! He has his support system back!

    -- Posted by Sir Didymus on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 1:32 AM
  • Undocumented citizens is like saying a bank robbery is a unauthorized withdrawal. As far as deporting them, it's not going to happen, we are 35 to 40 years late. There are way to many of them. The Laws that restrict employers from asking a potential employee if they are legal or not is protected by the American Civil Liberties Union. You can get a fake social securaty card. We can complain all we want, but nothing is going to happen. There is no Knight in shining armor out there, so get use to it, or die an angry old person. And in reality, if I was from any of the -hithole countrys they are from, I would be one of the first over the border, knowing the USA doesn't enforce the laws that are already on the books.

    -- Posted by Keda46 on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 11:52 PM
  • Moreover, undocumented workers pay into Social Security alone to the tune of $9 billion. That doesn't include payroll and local sales taxes. That money is not recouped by these workers.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxe...

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 12:18 AM
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    Rattletrap!,

    I notice a remarkable change in the tenor of your posts around the 20th, did you forget to create a different handle?

    -- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 10:39 AM
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    College must be a lot less interesting and time consuming than when I attended.

    -- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 10:40 AM
  • And you're a republican rattletrap? Well this explains a lot.

    -- Posted by bberry on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 11:04 AM
  • I believe rattletrap is a troll, mocking conservatives.

    -- Posted by doodle bug on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 11:42 AM
  • Ah, troll away then sir.

    -- Posted by bberry on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 12:43 PM
  • Doodyhead.

    -- Posted by bberry on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 2:19 PM
  • Wrong again Rattletrap! Extremists like you must be cured of your scopolamine addition, or sent to Mars to begin the terraforming project. You will make a fine Martian.

    -- Posted by უილიამ ი on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM
  • Being a Libertarian would.

    -- Posted by bberry on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 3:25 PM
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    Excellent post, Sam! You show real Christianity in treating your southern coworkers the same way you'd like to be treated. You're the man of principle this country needs.

    Black markets always spring up when the government tries to inhibit the supply of something the public demands, whether it's labor, drugs, booze, prostitutes,guns or anything else. Supply and demand is basic economics. When policy attempts to defeat economics, economics always win. Always.

    But when was the last time you heard of a congressman of any party, who knew anything about economics?

    -- Posted by Boomer62 on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 3:32 PM
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    Sam, I think you and I belong with the libertarians, not the republicans. We believe in freedom, free markets, free immigration. We are opposed to government run anything.

    Governments which govern least, govern best. Thomas Jefferson.

    -- Posted by Boomer62 on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 3:39 PM
  • I wonder if Mike's complaints about the Gazette on the Daily KOS have brought some new posters. It would be nice to argue with some extremists on the left.

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 4:48 PM
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    Benevolus,

    Since he seems to garner about 4 reads on his adjective laden Kos blog, I don't think it is too likely.

    -- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 6:30 PM
  • In my whole life, I have never been called a Liberal, good or bad that is a new one for me. I'm just curious why you picked the name Rattletrap! I had an old 60 pan head in the early 70s I nicknamed rattletrap, even though it made it from Ca. to Wisconsin and back. I also had a retarded pitbull I named lug-nuts, why I'm telling you this, your guess is as good as mine.

    -- Posted by Keda46 on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 7:04 PM
  • You are both victims of the scopolamine conspiracy. It has clearly rattled you badly. A great researcher and part time horse trainer/vet once refereed to what you are going through as the transition to a great robo-utopia.

    New research yields a slightly varied riff on that theme. We are witnessing the rise of the Republocrat, which is no less ruinous than the Conbot. Quite the opposite in fact. We were so distracted by the domination of the Conbot early in the Obama "Admin" that we never saw it coming.

    The totalitarian take over of the global market via its army of Republocratic world leadership is an amazing thing contemplate. This conspiracy has its roots in ancient Dutch capitalism and it was subsequently spread by the British, only to be perfected by the US under Nixon, and now under the domination of our Chinese masters, the global market will come to rule us all.

    American is not a young land. It is old and evil. We are in store for Plutechnocratic Fiefdom. Watch and learn.

    -- Posted by უილიამ ი on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 7:24 PM
  • It is a sad commentary of our society as those of employable age refuse to work. And just as sad, workers from all over the world come into this nation illegally to fill that void. These are not minimum wage jobs, but jobs that do require long hours of labor at a living wage.

    -- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 9:08 PM
  • Georgia, Alabama, and Arizona are all learning the hard way about the consequences of "cracking down" on illegal immigration. If you scare away the hardest working day-laborer force in the country there will be no one left to harvest your crops.

    To be fair, I guess Alabama has its inmates in the tomato fields, so all is not lost. But surprisingly the growers are complaining that the inmates don't follow instructions and aren't very productive, and meanwhile millions of dollars are literally rotting on the vine.

    I suppose it does stand to reason that someone who crosses several hundred miles of lethal deserts, drug cartels, and thieves, all to feed their kids, is probably willing to work pretty hard.

    -- Posted by Benevolus on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 12:30 AM
  • So let me ask you a question უილიამ ი, are you playing the great part of the mediator or conflict manager, or are you a pimple faced kid living in his grandma's basement in Iowa just -ucken with the good ol boys? Either way your diverge on the world is welcomed, it enhances the flavor to the republican good democrat bad, democrat good republican bad stalemate. As far as being a victim of the scopolamine conspiracy, you say this as though it's a bad thing, haven't you noticed in the last 40 years every one loves being the victim.

    -- Posted by Keda46 on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 1:14 AM
  • Who and where I am are meaningless, Keda. And the people who you have noticed claiming to be the victim over the last 40 years are absolutely right. Each of us is a victim of an ongoing government charade, a plot to conceal the truth about the birth of a new world government. It's a global conspiracy, actually, with key players at the highest imaginable levels of power, and it will affect the lives of every person on earth. Actually, victimize is a better a word than affect.

    The left/right, good/bad banality that is being played out worldwide is a purposeful directive issued from the seed organizations that are constituted to begin the conflation of our individual nations into a global collective. The left/right stupidity is nothing more than a distraction from the reality of what is truly occurring: the final amalgamation of power at the global scale the likes of which have never been witnessed by humans.

    -- Posted by უილიამ ი on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 12:15 PM
  • "It appears the college brats have come back!"

    "The college boys must have got bored with beer pong and decided to come back to this site. Sigh!"

    I'm not sure if you're trying to insult them, but I think everyone got the point the first time.

    -- Posted by bberry on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 4:36 PM
  • Just redundancy it seems.

    -- Posted by bberry on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 5:06 PM
  • paranoia |ˌparəˈnoiə| self destroyer

    noun

    a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.

    * suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification.

    -- Posted by Keda46 on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 6:50 PM
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    Man...and here I was afraid of static cling in my laundry...

    -- Posted by Mickel on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 7:51 PM
  • Man...and here I was afraid of static cling in my laundry...

    Posted by Mickel

    In the words of Larry the cable guy, now thats funny, I don't care who you are.

    Think someone should be taking there medication or what?

    -- Posted by Keda46 on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 12:05 AM
  • Man...and here I was afraid of static cling in my laundry...

    Posted by Mickel

    In the words of Larry the cable guy, now thats funny, I don't care who you are.

    Think someone should be taking there medication or what?

    -- Posted by Keda46 on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 12:05 AM
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    I am amused by the sad fact that they evidentally A) have nothing better to do, B) After huffing away the last round they come back being "clever", and C) Can't seem to grasp that if the narrischkeit wasn't amusing the last round, it prolly aint gonna be this round. Oh well, I guess if they need something to do on their iphones while camped out, we will have to put up with their brilliance. Like I said earlier, they will self destruct soon enough. It is unfortunate that the way this blog is set up that they delete all posts from banned people. Rest assured, this group has been around at least once. Here is their MO, at least judging from the last time. Multiple screen names, vulgar insults, and insipid commentary. Some of them will be reasonable but it usually devolves into what we are seeing here. Their stellar plot the last time was to show the whole world what kind of racist homophobe bigots live around McCook, NE. Of course, they had to initiate the racist homophobe bigtory first. Needless to say, they got banned one by one, then the last one posted one last post that explained it all. Kinda like an idiot villan in a bad movie. I advise everyone to not feed the trolls.

    -- Posted by Sir Didymus on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 1:28 AM
  • ScienceAboveAll Reads like ironcat with a better education

    Grins and glee ;)

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 7:07 AM
  • I think that was my point Gram.

    -- Posted by bberry on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 9:08 AM
  • It's ok Rattletrap, you don't need to. Run along and go back to coloring.

    -- Posted by bberry on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 9:11 AM
  • It's interesting you label everything you disagree with as liberal Rattle. Although wrong, I'd like to know if you see everything that isn't libertarian as liberal?

    -- Posted by bberry on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 9:22 AM
  • So Rattle, both conservatives and liberals are communists in your mind? So essentially, you see almost everyone as communist. Good to know.

    -- Posted by bberry on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 10:46 AM
  • Coming from you Rattle, I'll take this as a compliment. But allow me to make your argument for you, you think the political scale is shifted to the left.

    -- Posted by bberry on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 11:35 AM
  • The Euro has consolidated most of Europe. As the Chinese continue to buy up US debt, the imposition of the Yen in global market will increasingly make more sense as an alternative to the dollar. Since the Dutch and British capitalist empires drew to a close, the diversity of currency on Earth has been reduced by nearly 500%. This trend is continuing. There is a purposeful narrowing of the valuations of currency and it points to the eventuality of a one-unit monetary system.

    Such a system, once established, is permanent. A global organization is a non-elected body of oligarchists who will inevitably self-select amongst their own the heirs to the global order. Technology and (mis)information will be used as weapons to maintain a series of locally controlled feudal systems. Those who have amassed vast amounts of wealth will be systematically brought to heel, or killed and plundered.

    In this unified global entity, the great masses of people will be restricted in ways that are unimaginable to us now. The world's population, which in its current trajectory is destined to create untold diseases, resource wars, famines, etc., will be encouraged and hastened by global leadership in order to cull the Earth's population to a number more easily controlled and useful to the ruling class.

    The middle class will evaporate almost in an instant. Only two-classes will remain; rulers and servants. Global law will be brought under the auspices of a uniform code of justice, backed up by a global police force and further enforced by a unified global military. There will be no wages paid, a global welfare state will ensue; food, clothes, water, recreation, health care, etc., will be rationed to those who are obedient and subservient; the means to a simple life and death will be the reward for the forfeiture of one's freedom.

    And meanwhile, you all are worried about whether someone is a liberal or a conservative. Wake up.

    -- Posted by უილიამ ი on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 1:07 PM
  • I had to laugh at this Rattle. If it only takes me a sentence to make myself sound smarter than you ("the REAL conservative"), than I'd say you have more problems to worry about than us "liberals".

    -- Posted by bberry on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 1:29 PM
  • It's most likely just you Rattle, but on a positive note, you almost pulled off a coherent post.

    -- Posted by bberry on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 4:58 PM
  • How do you spell coherent wrong when I spelled it correctly for you just above your post?

    -- Posted by bberry on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 6:00 PM
  • me thinks my soft nervous tissue hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by Keda46 on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 1:16 AM
  • Rattle is a lib.

    -- Posted by bberry on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM
  • Liberal!!!

    -- Posted by bberry on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 9:31 AM
  • And when did you start referring to yourself in the 3rd person?

    -- Posted by bberry on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 9:35 AM
  • From CNN today:

    Why the West is losing out to the rest

    We are living through an extraordinary reversal of economic fortunes after 500 years when the big story was what historians call "the great divergence." Beginning in 1500, Europeans and European settlers in North America began to get richer than Asians (and everyone else, too). The gap between the "West and the Rest" widened at an accelerating rate until the later 1970s. But then -- on our watch -- that trend went into high-speed reverse.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/03/opinion/fe...

    The article continues on to enumerate several reasons in combination which the author believes have spurred the convergence of the rise of global wealth. They are as follows:

    Competition

    The Scientific Revolution

    The rule of law and representative government

    Modern medicine

    The consumer society

    The work ethic

    BEWARE! THE ARTICLE IS A PLOY!

    The most important factor is omitted. Since the formation of the Federal Reserve in 1913, and subsequently the International Monetary Fund and World Bank in 1944 and 1945, respectively, the purpose of diffusing worldwide capital investment to undeveloped economies can be described as an effort to bring the third world online. That is to say, to make formerly undeveloped nations useful and exploitable to the global entity which will come to permanently direct all global affairs for the citizens of earth.

    Science Above All has one piece of the puzzle quite right. But there is a much darker and troubling objective afoot. Watch and learn.

    -- Posted by უილიამ ი on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 5:29 PM
  • Lilhankbot...the name sounds so familiar. I believe my mentor spoke of this one...

    -- Posted by უილიამ ი on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 11:52 PM
  • You are old and evil. Just like America.

    -- Posted by უილიამ ი on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 11:04 AM
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