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Posted Sunday, March 7, 2010, at 10:49 AM

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When I heard that the Obama Administration was cutting funds to NASA, and I really wasn't upset about it. Considering who is in charge, NASA is probably a waste of time. We have been searching diligently for life out there in our universe. We are eager to find life.

The mathematical probability alone suggest life must be out there, and we search for the slightest evidence, any single thread which could point us to life.

Yet, science, politicians and liberals struggle so when confronted by the litany of evidence of life inside the womb of a mother.

Listen to this:

"...Several years ago, a fragile young woman came to my (a doctor's) office, expecting her first baby. One month before she was due, the baby was in a breech position. The death rate of breech babies is high because of the difficulty in delivering the after-coming head and the imperative need of delivering it quickly after the body is born.

During the delivery, I waited as patiently as I could for the natural forces of expulsion to thoroughly dilate the firm maternal structures. At last the time had come, and I gently drew down one little foot. I grasped the other, but it would not come beside the first one. To my consternation, I saw the other little foot would never be beside the first one. The entire thigh from the hip to the knee was missing.

I knew what a dreadful effect this would have upon the unstable nervous system of the mother. I saw this little girl sitting sadly by herself, while the other girls danced and ran and played.

I could slow my hand; I could delay those few short moments. No one, in this world, would ever know. The mother, after the first shock of grief, would be glad she had lost a child so handicapped.

The little pink foot on the good side bobbed out from its protecting towel and pressed firmly against my slowly moving hand...I couldn't do it. I delivered the baby with her pitiful little leg...as years went on, I blamed myself bitterly for not having the strength to yield to my temptation.

Our hospital stages a Christmas party each year for the staff. This past year, three lovely young musicians on the stage played softly in unison with the organ. I was especially fascinated by the young harpist. She played extraordinarily well, as if she loved it.

When the short program was over, there came down the aisle a woman I thought I knew. "Oh, you saw her," she cried. "You must have recognized her". The harpist was the little girl born with only one good leg 17 years ago. I took the child in my arms, (now with artificial limb). Across her warm shoulder I saw the creeping clock of the delivery room 17 years before. I lived again those awful moments when her life was in my hand. I had found comfort I had waited for so long."

(adapted from "Family News From Dr. James Dobson," December 1993, as condensed from the book, Christmas in My Heart, by Joe Wheeler, Review & Herald Publishing Co., 1993)

The government is suppose to protect these rights: Life, Liberty and the Persuit of Happiness.

Instead our government tramples and infringes on these rights from God, in order to give us all sorts of other rights. The right to food, the right to a doctor, the right to abortion, the right to tax, the right to be told to go on and die, as your life is now inconvenient to the State.

This is a well known story, but worth repeating. So many of you liberals didn't get it the first time you heard it. A certain ethics class had before them this situation. "A man has syphilis and his wife tuberculosis. They have four children. One has died, the other three have illnesses. The mother is pregnant again. What do you recommend?" The class voted to terminate the pregnancy. They had just voted to abort Beethoven. (HIS magazine, February 1984)

The woman whose picture graces this blog is Ethel Waters. Not just a great gospel singer, but one of the best who ever sang for God. Ethel Waters was born to a 13 year old child who had been raped. God can and will take something ugly and make something beautiful from it, if we will let Him.

Today, we face a runaway government poised to impose its will upon us all in the form of health care. Our government wants to be god. Our government may even think it is god.

Back when Roe v. Wade was handed down to be a plague to this nation, many of us warned of the costs of abortion, the tens of millions that would die, babies being killed for birth control. We were told we were fear mongering and exaggerating. Fifty million are dead.

We warned that if a State would allow the death of so many innocents, that other calamities would follow. Now, our bloated liberal infested government has decided that we can not only kill the unborn, we can surely rob them as well. If you can kill 'em, makes sense that you'll rob 'em too.

Now, the greed and death of liberalism will grow under the health care takeover. Seniors will be the next to experience the wonders of liberalism. They will be rationed to death.

The liberals will come on here and claim that I lie, their agenda/religion is one that demands they swear to the lies of their leaders. And they will.

I also expect that the so-called moderate Democrats will cave in, just as Ben Nelson did, and Obama care will succeed in putting yet another dagger in the heart of liberty.

Whether or not the United States survives as a free Republic or further spirals down to the depths of more death and Socialism will be directly linked to our respect for life.

The liberals mock God, and yet they want to play God. Then they sing the same old song. They'll all claim to be against abortion personally. Yet the people they support, the folks they follow, the politicians they put into power, do everything in their power to keep sending three thousand babies to their deaths everyday.

But they want us to trust them when it comes to the operation we may need. Sure, I trust them, don't' you?

One more thing, some time ago, I commented on all the Doctors and great talented men and women have been lost to abortion. Perhaps the secrets to cold fusion, to clean energy, the cure for cancer, could have been sucked into the abortionists sink, and thrown out with the garbage. Guillermo, (regular liberal heckler) answered me by saying that rapists and murderers were killed as well.

Do we want to be so brash as to spit in the face of God? How do we ask God's blessings on this country, when we have so little respect for the things of God? God Bless America? Why?

To you Christians I ask this: Will God Bless this nation while the abortion holocaust continues? What will God think of the upcoming health care rationing and early deaths of seniors?

The truth is, God works with each human being, born to whatever circumstances or station in life, as a work in progress. We, in our zeal to be nicer than God, cut that progress off, and thereby handicap generations while millions more die.

We must return government to its calling. A Government that protects the God given rights of Life, Liberty and the Persuit of Happiness. Those are the fundamentals. Until those are restored, our country will struggle.


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Don't forget, Sam...that you will be lambasted because you yourself have not volunteered to adopt these 'unwanted' babies...that are only unwanted, because the viewpoint of the parents are skewed by fear, uncertainty, a sense of helplessness, or some other negative source for despair.

The answer for these parents is to turn away from the earthly solutions and turn toward Jesus. Only God knows the potential of each child, and those children should be welcomed into the world, not scorned.

-- Posted by Mickel on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, at 12:04 PM

GI - who said anything about forcing people to do anything? Nobody talked about using Jesus or Christianity to control anything or control anybody; and turning to Jesus certainly doesn't reduce freedom; I would contest that turning to Jesus loosens ones bonds.

It's interesting, however, that when people truly do put their faith and trust in Christ, the transformation that comes about in their lives. And people find this liberation within the constructs of their own relationship with Christ, not at the behest of someone elses suggestion or experience. I'm wondering why you are so vehement to limit the experiences of divine/interpersonal relationships of others so that it fits your rusty trap of a template.

Your tired argument smacks of a lazy thought process, and the condoning of the death of innocence is incredibly sinister. You are not offering an alternative to death and pain and suffering. On the contrary you are eagerly promoting it. What you can imagine is sadly constrained and homogenized if you cannot imagine the suffering abortion puts people through.

-- Posted by Mickel on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, at 7:05 PM

What has the church done to prevent abortions besides try to outlaw it? If you want to end abortion, put a helping hand out to those thinking about getting one. Don't turn your back on them condemning them. Put a helping hand out to those who have got one. Don't put up signs in your church lawn to shame those who have had abortions.

The church needs to quit showing hate and go back to showing love.

It's time for Plan B. Abortion is not going to be outlawed and certainly not on religious grounds. If the church wants to win the fight on abortion, the church needs to get people to come back to it. Becoming hateful is not going to accomplish that. Being forgiving will.

-- Posted by npwinder on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, at 11:30 PM

npwinder, I have to ask...HOW have you managed to miss all the Crisis Pregnancy Centers? Where do you think they get their support??

Churches not only support pregnancy centers...and give everything from maternity clothes to formula to baby clothes to cribs...many now have their own adoption centers. Some churches even manage to cover the thousands of dollars of cost for the adoptions, so the new parents can spend their money on the child.

Abortion does not need to be outlawed "on religious grounds," it needs to be outlawed for the simple reason that it is murder.

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 7:45 AM

GI, I know you know this, but seriously...

NO ONE tells women they must get pregnant. NO ONE tells women what they must do with their own body.

However, the body murdered during the abortion is usually not the woman (though that has happened.)

The body that is murdered is another human, a separate human, a complete individual... like YOU, but smaller.

Any of us that understand the simple MEDICAL FACTS of human reproduction must stand against the murder of innocent human life.

It is not our fault that so many libs can't understand that a baby is a baby even before you can see his (or her) face.

Perhaps you should get a medical text and study human reproduction. Surely some knowledge will go a long way toward curing your foolish stance.

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 7:50 AM

You will never get anywhere with Gilly. He arrogantly refers to the unborn as "gloppy masses" which tells you all you need to know about him. His ilk truly enjoy the slaughter of innocents and the pain it causes those of us with a moral and social conscious. His same ilk will vehemently protest the death sentence of a killer who slaughtered more innocents so it isn't real heard to see that liberals ar on the side of those who slaughter innocents be they unborn or born.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 8:53 AM

Mrs. Smith,

In my personal fossilized condition, mostly I rely upon memory -- however, I do seem to recall that most pregnancies start with intense activation of male erectile tissue.

I have heard of a few single women who eagerly achieved pregnancy via unknown donors or donors where there was no contact -- Possibly the male was in Hollywierd and the mother-to-be in New York City.

With my ancient background, I do recall women and girls dying from botched back-alley abortions, along with the fetus.

In every poverty ridden rural culture around the world, women already struggling with large families have been dying from self-induced abortions through the centuries .

Making abortions illegal, will simply mean abortions being performed illegally.

Some by doctors performing out-patient surgery in their offices, or in the patients' homes.

Many with less than sanitary conditions, primitive methods and drunken or drug raddled scum.

In my lifetime, the culture has gone from "Nice Girls don't do that," to "We're going to live together a couple of years and then cross the "M Bridge" at that time if we choose."

"By the way Grannie, you have been living with 'Uncle Joe' for five years now, are you two going to tie the knot or just keep it casual."

When I came off the ranch for the cow college, "heavy necking" was REALLY WILD PARTYING, good night kisses were supposedly for engaged couples.

Today, either is tame compared with how a lot of nice girls say goodnight after the first date.

Second date, today, "above the waist" -- at least for the first 10 minutes.

Third date for the slow-pokes (no pun intended),

"Your place or mine or the local Dew Drop Inn.

Our great-grandmothers were mortified if anyone, female or male of any age, saw their ankles or elbows.

Today -- "There's no one closer than a hundred feet on the beach, why do I have to wear a top?"

Not far from Memphis, there is a "clothing optional" public beach. [Pulled the camper in there about 2 a.m. one Saturday morning to grab some pillow time.

Checking the weather about 9 a.m. -- instantly AWAKE!!!]

Frontier custom -- Couples that just couldn't or didn't wait -- The next "house party,' "corn shucking," sorghum boilin' or "barn dance" had an intermission and the couple "jumped the broom" which unofficially made it official until a circuit rider came through to perform the ceremony. The preacher was often "paid" for his services with a jug or two of one of the father's best two-to-four grain sippin' whiskey.

And that preacher man took it gladly.

Some surviving frontier church journals report publishing of the bans, "jumping the broom," arrival of the first child or two or three, and then the arrival of the circuit rider.

All it takes is an eager young male, a compliant or eager or scheming young lady and a few minutes privacy.

Do seem to recall an old high school buddy who stayed with relatives in town because the family ranch was so remote-- who after reaching 21 would make the drive into town to visit one "easy' young lady.

Yep, her daddy had a 12 guage, with damascus twist barrels. It was an informal wedding.

Today, 90% of such young men are on a "red eye" flight to an overseas oil patch and the girl in question has a decision to make.

Waiting to see if he returns after ten years is not an option.

If this issue was simple, there would be no controversey.

Meanwhile, you influence decisions in your family, I'll do the best I can within my family and the women will decide for themselves.

We don't need some bureacrat telling us how to run our sex lives and decisions arising from them.

BLUNTLY -- I won't even think about telling someone else's wives, daughters, granddaughters or great granddaughters how to manage their lives -- Kindly extend the same consideration toward my family.

I do seem to notice Neo-Cons opposed to the federal government having anything to do with Health Care Reform.

But the same NEO-CONS are eager to have the federal government rule everyone's sex lives.

Make up your minds.

You are either for big government controls or not.

Which is it?

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 8:59 AM

Herndon,

Have you ever noticed that every single person who is in favor of murdering the unborn was spared that fate?

No one I know cares at all what you or yours do with your sex organs, sex life, life period...

However, when your choices include murdering another person, it's no longer YOUR life, is it?

As soon as medical science absolutely determines that every conceived human is truly NOT human, it won't matter any more, will it?

However, until the time that medical science can be forced to make a false determination, the FACTS remain that every abortion takes an innocent human life.

We murder over 1,000,000 infants every year, HH.

Did your backstreet, illegal abortionists ever manage that kind of slaughter??

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 10:56 AM

This small town buried a hero today.

Josiah, the fun-loving boy everyone knew as "Biker Joe" came home the final time.

From the Interstate, along the state highway, along the narrow Main Street, all traffic stopped for the six miles to the cemetery. Seemingly every U.S. flag in two states was visible.

Every deputy sheriff and reserve deputy, every police officer and reserve , every cadet for six departments in the area was either in the funeral procession or posted at an intersection.

Every full-time and volunteer fireman, on-duty and off duty alike, were ranked in full uniform before the fire station.

All Post Office employees were at attention, in uniform.

Four scout troops lined the courthouse square, each scout presenting the flag.

Ranked behind, greying members of the VFW, American Legion and Disabled American Veterans.

City hall and courthouse staffs were at attention, Judges in robes, bailiffs in uniform, overweight men and women in business dress -- everyone at attention.

The funeral procession was preceded by single motorcycle officers from the six departments , two county Sheriff's departments and the State Police, followed by the hearse bearing a small town's Hero.

Behind the hearse, at least one hundred of "Biker Joe's" cycling buddies, his brother leading the group with Joe's favorite dirt bike.

Behind from the biggest and most loaded Harleys down to stripped down motocross racers.

Then the procession of autos, the white stretch limos with the family and three miles of Joe's friends.

Joe came home to be with his family and friends, Americans all..

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 5:48 PM

GI, your theory would be great...except for the individual being killed.

I find it quite amusing that advising you to read a medical text is now "religious blustering." Cheers for your reading comprehension.

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 8:55 PM

For GI and ball o fire...seriously, how have you missed all the pregnancy crisis centers? Where do you think they get their funding? Who is it that donates the maternity and baby clothes, the formula, the blankets, the diapers, the baby furniture?

How have you missed the churches that have day cares, adoption centers, food pantries, shelters?

The plain and simple facts are that Christians donate more time and money to every charity...especially those for children...than any other American group.

If you libs didn't cling so fiercely to your money, we'd have the means to support all those babies...until they grow up, get jobs and help to support US as we age.

You guys need to get some talking points that aren't false.

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 9:07 PM

HerndonHank,

You bring up a good point: "You are either for big government controls or not. Which is it?"

Too often those on both sides refuse to see the incompatibilities in their own polemics. I am often amazed at the capacity for self-delusion and justification that people have.

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 9:24 AM

Guillermo,

That is exactly my point, parsimony aside, and thank you for illustrating it once again. Liberals can justify where they think government needs control (read: the banking industry or import/export regulation) and Conservatives where they think control is needed (read: religious choices, medical decisions and the like). Both then run around attacking the other side for the same behavior.

"Oh and MrsSmith, the only Christians I have ever seen...shouting epithets like "sinner" and "whore"

Is this like only seeing Code Pink Liberals at recruiting stations and then generalizing out to all Liberals hate the military and don't support our troops?

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 12:41 PM

So your defense of Guillermo's post is that it was a stretch? I used the ellipsis because I didn't want to clutter up with so much quote and you seemed to get the analogy of the pregnancy crisis center to recruiting station so I think it is satisfactory.

I disagree that I made an apples to oranges comparison, I was comparing extremists to extremists with different agendas, the techniques used are similar enough for my purposes. Radical ideology is radical ideology in my book. I suppose I could have also used animal rights paint throwers or any number of other groups, Code Pink is just the first I thought of.

What in my comparison did you disagree with, if you take my explanation into account?

I am not here to observe or mock, I am here to discuss.

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 1:44 PM

Guillermo,

See we can agree on a lot of things and I haven't yet today had to call you an America hating Terrorist or whatever it was you said.

I didn't say that there should be no government control, nor will I say there should be total government control. My point as I'm sure you are aware, is that the form control takes is in the eye of the beholder. Where you think government's role needs reduced or increased is your opinion, just as Sam has his opinion, and I have mine. What bothers me is the self-righteousness of those who proclaim in their arrogance that they know the best for everyone. Eventually everyone will come around and realize that I alone know what is best for everyone.

I'm sure most people don't recognize their hypocrisy, I know I don't recognize mine but try to analyze when I do, but it's funny how fast they are to point out others'.

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 2:19 PM

Hey ball_o_fire,

Where is the "cretinous" mistake, that you claim, the Messiah hasn't made His appearance?

and Guillermo,

What proof do have these shouting protesters at the abortion clinics are in fact Christians? Do they say they are? Or do you merely assume they are. Besides you don't believe in Christ, unless it's convenient for you. Doesn't that make you are a false teacher when you quote Scripture.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 2:21 PM

I believe the will of God has been spelled out throughout to Bible. Repeatedly man has chosen to reject it. We were given the choice of being in the image of God, which Adam and Eve chose to reject. God, through Moses, gave us a list of laws to live by to be blameless in the eyes of the Lord, and man rejected them. He sent his Son, Christ Jesus, to show us by example, how to lead perfect lives, and again man rejected Him.

It is our goals, as Christians, to reject the exertion of power the real and material world places on us.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 4:27 PM

Good for you, now live it.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 5:10 PM

Two arguments brought in above leave concern.

FIRST:

"What proof that protestors outside family planning clinics are Christians?"

DUH -- By doggies folks, when they are singing "Onward Christians Soldiers" in full chorus at least four times hourly and spreading foam pads on the sidewalks, streets and grass to kneel on for loud and fervent Christian prayer -- and when a half dozen of those protestors are wearing clerical collars -- a reasonable person might just SUSPECT they were Christians. Especially when you see them arrive in busses with the names of various churches on the sides.

SECOND:

Code Pink and only liberals protesting outside the military recruiting stations.

About 24 months ago in early 2008, I was in a nearby city where a new joint-military recruiting station had opened in an "offshoot" shopping mall about two miles from the downtown.

Serious demonstrations and protests taking place.

Being met with sizable numbers of American Legion and VFW members in garrison caps, vests, jackets and shirts.

I came out of a restaurant on the other side of the center and strolled over. Having the time, volunteered to bring a rather powerful portable PA system I use for business meetings and several CDs of brass bands with different patriotic song combinations. When the protestors arrived, they found the veterans at attention, one VFW color guard marching up and down the "quad" in front of the recruiting station -- with the long version of the National Anthem at full volume.

Then the VFW Color Guard and the "Marine Hymn."

Normal protocol, even for 'aginners' hellbent upon protesting, is when certain music is heard and the American Flag is being paraded -- even nutcases shut to thunder up.

The Legion color guard moved into the parade area and "America the Beautiful" began.

After about a ten-minute rest, the Legion Color Guard was back and Ad Infinitum.

The protestors finally moved their self entertainment to a park about four blocks distant until advised their parade permit disallowed that activity by the police.

The laughable part -- When Tea Party protests hit the same community during the late summer and fall of 2009 -- I was again witness to this great patriotic outpouring.

Most of those self-proclaimed "Tea Baggers" were waving placards denouncing the Socialist/Communist "Kenyan Born Pretender to the Presidency," in one way or the other.

I recognized several as among the protestors who had wanted to set up at the recruiting station.

They may have been confused, but they sure weren't liberals or pinkos.

I did notice their recruiting station effort was during the Bush administration.

Wild, NeoCons demonstrating against a recruiting station within the Bush/Cheney era.

Shades of Tail-Gunner Joe McCarthy.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 8:58 PM

I get a bit irritated when I am told by libs that I must do more to stop abortion. I could use the same argument against libs talking about homelessness. If you liberals really wanted to do something about the homeless, you'd start taking them home with you. You'd build them a spare room, and find them work. What's wrong, don't you care about the poor homeless?

There is no reason, other than greed and leftist political theology, that so many kids are killed every day.

Guillermo - If you had been the doctor in the story above, would you have killed the baby, or would you have saved the baby?

And Guillermo, seriously now, sit down with those commie professors and start coming up with better answers.

So, according to Guillermo, the government, his god, can tell you and I what to do regarding almost every minute aspect of our lives, all in the name of promoting life, I'm sure. But the one place where life is REALLY on the line, the unborn, the government must stay mute huh?

Poor Guillermo - your mind has been trashed. Tell them commie professors to give you your money back. You've been cheated.

I would give a dunce of the week award, but Guillermo would win it every week!

-- Posted by sameldridge on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 9:46 PM

Ball o fire - I once offered a compromise to the left. Just pretending like we had real power. I said, let us make abortion illegal, it's murder - unless, the mom is in danger, rape or incest.

(I still reject the notion that a baby must be executed because its father was a criminal, however to save nearly 3000 lives every day, I'll reluctantly agree to let you liberals kill some babies if you must)

I asked these leftists if they'd make the compromise with me. None would. Abortion is the blood sacrament of the religion of liberalism.

What is going on with American women? With all the advances, and medical help. and learning about condoms in schools, and talk talk talk talk talk about sex, day and night, still three thousand a day need to be killed?

Washington State has 30 Planned parenthood Centers. Man, that's allot of baby killing. And they are not all 16 year old crack whores either.

Planned parenthood targets poor, black neighborhoods for their centers. The founder of Planned Parenthood, (Sanger) wanted abortion to rid the country of black folks.

Fifty million deaths is a crime against God, and against humanity. Enough is enough.

You people that vote for leaders that continue the abortion holocaust have blood on your hands. Don't try and push it off on me, or other Christians.

And I mean that in all Christian love of course.

Thanks for reading and commenting.

-- Posted by sameldridge on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 10:01 PM

Sam,

I think Guille is your long-lost son, a man who was reared by the buxom woman you fell in love with in Texas all those years ago and to whom you could not make a firm commitment. She made the CHOICE to carry out the pregnancy and have the baby after all, and now you've found each other on this blog and in good family style, you can jokingly call each other names. I hope you can accept him with open arms because it takes one to know one. :-) Res Just

-- Posted by Resilient Justice on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, at 10:19 PM

And you Gilly are a harmless, arrogant, liberal jerk who believes the inception of life is a "gloppy mass". While not a religious person it isn't very hard to side with Sam on this as how we perceive and treat the innocent in life works it's way into all facets of our society. This explains why the liberal bastions are broke, corrupt, and in need of a good dose of conservatism. A great way to start would be to respect the life we create, not denigrate it. You are good at denigration though Gilly so denigrate life all you want, it is a perfect fit for you.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 9:24 AM

In the words of Richard Gere, "I got no where else to go".

-- Posted by hankherndon on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 9:57 AM

You guys are a hoot. You are definitely trees in the forest, that's for sure. The coming election will possibly open a pathway so you can see out and realize how misguided you are. Until then enjoy the view.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 2:26 PM

The biggest contradiction is liberals fighting to kill the "gloppy mass" while at the same time fighting to save the life of a death row inmate. So any contradictions from the liberals are easily understood as they wallow in contradiction.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 3:06 PM

liberals kill innocents (the unborn) and defend the killers of innocents (serial murderers, child rapists). That is it in a nutshell.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 3:34 PM

"Rush Limbaugh said he'd leave the country if a health care bill passes. Do you feel the same way, littlehankbot?

Rush obviously doesn't feel the same way about abortion as some of you do, or he would have defected a long time ago.

It's entirely possible that Rush Limbaugh may like abortions.

-- Posted by Senior Loud on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 9:47 AM"

IF PASSING THE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILLS WILL GET RUSH TO LEAVE FOR COSTA RICA AND MESS WITH THEIR RADIO -- THAT MAY BE THE REASON SOME BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS NEED TO VOTE FOR THE BILL.

Think I'll leave for D.C. tonight to lobby for passage -- with that as my message.

Get rid of Limburger, pass Health Care Reform!!!

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 4:40 PM

Senior,

Why does every illegal alien have to be of Mexican origin? There are many from Europe, Asia, and from Africa. Or are your racist tendencies rearing its ugly head.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 6:06 PM

Gilly, obviously you have never witnessed the liberal acerbic BS spewing from the mouth of Janine Garafalo or fatty Michael Moore in these regards. Sean Penn..... And Christians don't kill innocents because they have abortions, they pray for them and their dead unborn. Liberals kill innocents and defend the guilty, go figure.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 7:12 PM

Guillermo,

An observation, Senior Loud made no mention of any other racial or ethnic groups. And since you leftist always prefer to divide the population into groups, sub-groups and so on, it needed to be pointed out.

Besides, I wasn't debating you, so mind you own business.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 7:27 PM

Guillermo,

Are you not a college student? Shouldn't you be hard at your studies? You seem to be able to post at all hours of the day and night. Your not one of those "professional students", are you?

Point A) is well taken.

Most immigrants I know, legal and illegal, are far from a hopeless situation. Most, if not all have traded their time for a good paycheck, which they tend to spend wisely. Lately, I have met more natural born citizens, mostly of European descent, in their late 20's and 30's who have yet to experience a full time job. That's called lazy.

Another funny thing, offer to pay a medical bill with cash, huge saving there.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 8:17 PM

Must be studying. Study hard little Guillermo!

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Wed, Mar 10, 2010, at 9:18 PM

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-- Posted by hankherndon on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, at 8:09 AM

Mrs. Smith, Certaintly I knew the centers that provided clothing and diapers ect. exsisted. However, I did not realize they were all over.

The only ones I hear about are the locations that are protested every weekend and are easy to find. After all, the locations are in the monday paper talking about the number of protesters.

Sam has mentioned several times about the 30 abortion clinics in Washington. Yet not once has anyone mentioned the number of places to receive help with raising a child.

Seems like many members of the church(es) are willing to protest and condemn people to hell. Yet, none will mention a viable option for help or forgivness.

It's time to stop focusing on the negative and start letting everyone know the positive. Get the word out about place to receive help with child and quit telling people were to go to get an abortion.

If I recall, the abortion clinic in Bellevue has gotten much more business after Tillers death and the protests then he has had before the protests. Before no one knew you could get a late term abortion, now the whole nation knows.

-- Posted by npwinder on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, at 6:48 PM

""""

Obama Gives Away $1.4M Nobel Prize

Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 05:25 PM

President Barack Obama has announced which groups will get the $1.4 million he received for winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

Obama said Thursday that $250,000 will go to Fisher House, a national nonprofit that houses families whose loved ones are receiving care at Veterans Administration medical centers. He will give another $200,000 to the Bush-Clinton Haiti Fund to help the country recover from the earthquake.

The balance will go to an array of other groups including education foundations, scholarship funds and regional development groups in Africa and Central Asia.

Imagine that -- When the Nobel Award was announced, the President said the money prize would go to worthy causes.

As with his norm, consider all, verify everything -- before deciding. Then he fulfilled his first statement.

By the way, Neo-Cons, the new Abrams-Hybrid mine/bomb plow is equipped with ultrasonic equipment which detects the presence of IED's, mines and other items within roadways.

Not a dime wasted on a Presidential Pressure Suit, or "Mission Accomplished" banners and celebrations.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, at 10:56 PM

The Report Below explains:

These are the men Al Qaeda can rely upon. Hundreds of millions of Muslims are susceptible to being victimized by this level of medieval savagery.

These are not "fifteen incompetents hiding in a cave."

They are at the minimum, hundreds of thousands of cold-blooded, tough and determined committed fighting men, trained with knives and guns, even RPG's from the age of six or seven.

If NATO and the U.S. leave the region to avoid casualties in a Talib war, innocent people worldwide will die.

-----------------------------------

""Not every Afghan is hoping the Americans soon leave their country. Some are actually dreading it.

"You [NATO & the U.S.]can't leave Afghanistan," Manizha, who helps run a shelter for battered women, recently warned "World News" anchor Diane Sawyer. Behind Manizha, women who were beaten, bruised and badly scarred shake their heads in urgent agreement.

The secret women's shelter is run by Manizha -- who, like most Afghans, goes by only one name -- and by New Yorker Esther Hyneman. It is one of a string of shelters and counseling centers that opened in 2007 and have since helped about 1,500 Afghan women escape beatings and abuse that can shock even battle-hardened combat surgeons.

Among the most heartbreaking is the story of Bebe. She is 17, and she says her face was mutilated by her husband, a Talib. Bebe's nose and ears were cut off as punishment for running away to escape the constant pummeling by her husband and his family.

She was married to the radical Taliban when she was 12, Manizha told Sawyer. Her marriage was the result of an outlawed tribal custom called "baad" in which the daughter was given away as compensation for a crime or offense committed by a male member of Bebe's family.

Girls given away in "baad" transactions are often little more than slaves. Bebe was forced to sleep in a stable with the animals, and beatings and pain became part of life for her.

Bebe tried to escape but was captured.

Her husband was ordered by the Taliban to punish her by disfiguring her face. While her brother-in-law held her down, her husband sliced off her nose and ears.

Left for dead, she crawled to her uncle's house, but he refused to help. Bebe staggered on to her grandfather's house. He called her father. The local Afghan hospital was unable to treat her wounds, and suggested her father take her to the nearby U.S. military base, Forward Operating Base Ripley in Oruzgan province.

"She was very scared. She covered up," said Air Force Sgt. Lindsey Clark, a medic who was on duty when Bebe arrived three days after the attack.

Maj. Jeff Lewis, an Air Force surgeon, told ABC News he was used to seeing war wounds, but Bebe's injuries appalled him.

"It was barbaric and shocking to see this, that somebody had done this to this young girl... It was unlike anything I've ever seen," Lewis said. "I'm surprised that ... it still exists, this type of problem in the world."

Despite their scars -- from fists, knives, burns, electrical cords -- there is an argument that the women at Manizha's shelter are the lucky ones.These women have found a way out of their brutal marriages. Millions of Afghan women are routinely handed over for marriages while they are still children and endure lives of constant battering.

"Ninety percent of Afghan women have experienced some form of human rights violation, 15 million Afghan women probably need our help," Manizha told Sawyer.

It's not just Afghan women who want things to change.

"Husbands, fathers and brothers, they come for help," Hyneman told Sawyer. "They want a peaceful life... a family life and want to be able to support their children," rather than marry them off at a young age.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 5:18 AM

Abortion proponents in the single digits, dead kids in the millions. I wonder who's winning this little battle to kill? And KILL it is.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 9:40 AM

Unfortunately, it would appear that the libs have majority control of the blogs...the conservatives must be at work. It's getting more difficult each year to financially support the Dema-gimme party.

Shouldn't we at least get a picture and a letter describing the progress of the libs we are supporting?

-- Posted by Husker23 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 11:52 AM

I would take my programming sources over the data inputted into your brain from Richard Maddow anyday.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 1:38 PM

Going out on a limb here...

I'm guessing your "research" is government subsidized. Food stamps, welfare check, energy assistance...you know, so you have enough "research" money for internet access and movie rentals.

I do find your claims about "Con-Bots" a bit ironic when every liberal (including yourself) claims that the conservative message is simply regurgitated Fox, Hannity or Limbaugh propaganda. While at the same time, you literally have no knowledge of what my background, research, or media sources really are. You seem to be more "robotic" and reactionary in every liberal stereotypical way. Your contributions to this blog have absolutely no usefulness other than entertainment...but have fun in your imaginary research lab.

On with your government subsidized research my useless little make believe scientist.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 1:48 PM

Spot on Husker.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 2:00 PM

lol...yes, I almost forgot about the "don't be so angry" programmed defensive liberal response...you are entertaining Mr. Loud. Predictable, but entertaining.

Can you begin working on a pretend time machine so that I can get back the last 2 hours of wasted time spent communicating with you?

-- Posted by Husker23 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 2:34 PM

Just calling it like I see it...

As for losers...check back in after the mid-terms. Let's see how you feel then you mad little scientist. I'm pretty sure even you can see it coming.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 2:54 PM

Contribution? Did I blink?

Was it the part where you call me a hypocrite, or the part where you call Republicans liars?

Your comments don't merit a response. (Said the Con-Bot in an angry font).

-- Posted by Husker23 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 3:59 PM

That is your problem reformed..."If they don't agree, they must get there info from a (discredited) news source that I don't like"...

Your lack of knowledge is duly noted.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 4:02 PM

Those two cells were half what you had to begin with. You are now a double derrrrrrr with loud.

-- Posted by hankherndon on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 4:52 PM

Did anybody notice -

Glenn Beck frantically trying to find something about Former Congressman Massa that made any sense whatsoever.

Massa made the Democratic leadership's decisions look real good. This nutcase has been outed for groping shipmates during his Navy duty, for groping employees in his House office.

Only difference here between GOP conduct toward those who cannot understand some things are wrong and the Democrats.

Senator Ensign had strong support from party leaders well after his misconduct was exposed -- and he is still in office.

Larry Craig fought ousting to the bitter end.

Party leaders were noncommittal.

Reports from staff on Massa reached the Democratic leadership and Massa was history -- that day.

Terry Sanford is still governor of S. Carolina.

Democrats are pushing prosecution of former Democratic North Caolina Governor Mike Easley for his misconduct.

The N.C. Democrats are insisting Pres. Obama leave in office the deputy U.S. attorney who is pressing Easley.

Does anyone see a difference here?

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 7:56 PM

And they all voted to impeach Clinton after he committed perjury too right hank??

-- Posted by hankherndon on Sun, Mar 14, 2010, at 9:17 PM

Let's not forget Barney Frank (gay brothel incident), and Ted Kennedy (just name it). Give me time, I'll name off some more.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Sun, Mar 14, 2010, at 10:23 PM

Yes, and they all resigned. Cannot be said of Frank and Kennedy. And let's not forget Charley Rangel.

-- Posted by Chunky Peanut Butter on Sun, Mar 14, 2010, at 10:59 PM

When the Democrats controlled the House:

From the 95th to 98th Congresses (1977-84),

There were eight self-executing rules comprising exactly ONE percent of the 857 total rules granted.

During Speaker Tip O'Neill's (D-Mass.) final term in the 99th Congress, there were 20 self-executing rules (12 percent).(Most to secure passage of legislation sought by Pres. Reagan, with members of his own party opposing.)

During Rep. Jim Wright's (D-Texas) only full term as Speaker, in the 100th Congress, there were 18 self-executing rules (17 percent).

They reached a high point of 30 under Speaker Tom Foley (D-Wash.) during the final Democratic Congress, the 103rd, for 22 percent of all rules.

When Republicans took power in 1995:

Under Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.);

There were 38 and 52 self-executing rules in the 104th and 105th Congresses (1995-1998), making up 25 percent and 35 percent of all rules, respectively.

Under Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) there were 40, 42 and 30 self-executing rules in the 106th, 107th and 108th Congresses (22 percent, 37 percent and 22 percent, respectively)- for a 30.3 per cent average.

Nancy Pelosi has been speaker for some time now, the possible use of the self executing rule getting the Health Care Reform bill past the conservative blockade, will be the first of her tenure. So far her average is ZERO.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Fri, Mar 19, 2010, at 5:46 PM

Jose,

Those awful Democrats have gone and done it again!

Now they plan to deliver a straight up and down vote.

And after the Neo Con attack puppies got all excited about the Libs use of GOP parliamentary tactics to pass the Health Care Reform Bill.

How inconsiderate of Zero Pelosi!!

By the way, Jose You Can't See, what have you done for the human race within the past 50 years>

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Sun, Mar 21, 2010, at 12:38 AM

"Rush Limbaugh said he'd leave the country if a health care bill passes."

Shall we all hold our collective breaths until that wonderful day arrives?

DON'T WORRY NEO-CONS, THE MASTER OF DECEIT LIMBAUGH WILL FIND AN EXCUSE TO IGNORE HIS PROMISE.

If he would live up to that promise, that alone was reason to pass the HCR bill.

He won't, we knew it, so the idea was just a pleasant memory.

But then, Limburger being nothing but a windbag is nothing new.

So Limbaugh lied. What else is new

After all, he has had years of practice.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Wed, Mar 24, 2010, at 1:01 AM

Hi there Hank

For some one as smart as you are, too bad you didn't bother to really read what limbaugh said.

what he said was "he would go to costa rica" not move there. As he is so succesful he can afford to do just that. Just as you could if you chose to do so or me or any one else.

Rushes bombastic presentation is a bit overbearing but you can't deny he has found his own place and makes it work for him. Bugs the crap out of you doesn't it. Ha Ha Haw!

-- Posted by boojum666 on Wed, Mar 24, 2010, at 6:34 PM

Herndy Hank sez: "After all, he has had years of practice."

Well, he did get one thing right...Donovan McNabb was hoped and hyped by the media.

-- Posted by Mickel on Tue, Mar 30, 2010, at 10:25 PM

Mickel,

Get out there behind an NFL center and survive one series.

Then moan and groan about McNabb or any other NFl quarterback or other position player.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 12:15 AM

Hank - do us all a favor and take a rest once in awhile. You should try getting some sleep instead of drowsy posting. You could veer off the internet.

-- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 8:10 PM

GI - Remember that scene in Airplane when the passenger had to interpret jive for the stewardess? Nobody gets what you are saying either.

-- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 8:11 PM

rrw - you have this penchant for wanting to take everything I say and turn it into a big whoop-si-daisy. You really should get a different hobby...doing a rope-a-dope on a glutton for contradiction like you is too easy and not very rewarding.

-- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 8:12 PM

rrw - to what exactly are you referring to, that I have lied?

Do cite the date and the thread, please.

And I don't think taking five minutes out of your hectic schedule of eating Cheetos and drinking Mt. Dew, while watching Starsky and Hutch reruns in your underwear and sweat stained t-shirt is too much of a sacrifice. Don't forget to scratch the skidmarks.

You must listen to Rush Limbaugh, being such an expert. Careful...cause that's going to get you kicked out of your new lefty brown-nosing club.

-- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 9:11 PM

Oh and just for the record rrw...Rush actually said this (from the ESPN transcript - which coincidentally is a matter of public record which even a skid-mark scratching retrobate could look up...) "and my... I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern on the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."

Hmmm. Sounds like a statement about the media and not the race of an individual.

Rope-a-dope worked that time.

-- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 9:22 PM

rrw...Your point #3 in your last post...

I never said I couldn't point out where in the 3000 page monstrosity the HSA's were being dismantled...I just didn't give you the section, paragraph, and line address so you could just lazily 'check it out' to try to rebut my statement without being informed. Which you did anyway, because that article link you posted doesn't cite any part of the 'fix-it' bills either.

The HSA's were dismantled in the original legislation which had been signed into law. The fixes came after I initially posted; fixes YOU say reinstate HDHP's; an assertion I have yet to find in the fixes, but I'm still workin' on it.

The part about the fix-it bills ending up on the Senate floor was my opinion, on which point I was wrong. However the facts stand true, and regardless of whether or not you like it or not...you can't change it.

-- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 9:40 PM

"That''s what I just said. Who else would overhype him but the media?"

I don't think even YOU know what you are saying.

-- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 9:42 PM

rrw - well, I appreciate your concern for my family. I would hope that your concern would bloom and encompass the rest of America. My hope is that when Conservatives take over Congress in November, that the entire socialist line-up simply becomes defunded, dries up and goes away.

By the way...I never downplayed McNabbs talent, just his achievements WITH his talent. Of course, who am I to talk, never having thrown a football in college let alone the NFL. In fact I root for McNabb twice a year...everytime they play the Cowboys!!

-- Posted by Mickel on Sun, Apr 4, 2010, at 9:33 AM

GI - ya see...I'm thinking I might have seen that movie...but am not sure. Did it have Nick Nolte in it? Anyway, the scene you were talking about seems familiar...but a lot of times you see clips like that somewheres else.

Carl - I don't care a whit about trying to defend Rush Limbaugh. I was just trying to set the record straight about what he said regarding McNabb into the context of how he said it.

As for the comments you posted...I've listened to Rush for a long time... some of those quotes are familiar enough for me to recognize that they were said in satire. And I know Rush doesn't hate blacks or hispanics...I'm not so sure though about Senator Byrd who is the finest sort of Southern Democrat. He's a lifelong card carrying KKK member.

So out of the two...which one do you think is in a position to raise your taxes, affect your health-care, regulate your personal activities, etc.?

-- Posted by Mickel on Mon, Apr 5, 2010, at 9:30 PM

Okay SL - perhaps I should have said "from my experience of hearing Rush's show for 20+ years, and having not heard him utter hate for blacks or hispanics..."

I just shortened it up.

But there was more than one Dixiecrat who were upholders of the finest of Democrat ideals...Bull Conner, Herman Talmadge, George wallace, John Patterson, etc.

So really...you are saying that Byrds extended career of writing bills and enacting legislation are less influential than that of an entertainer.

So in other words...Bono is more effective at changing political policy than was Bush.

It's ALL Bono's fault!!

Thanks for the revelation. Thinking like a liberal is fun!!

-- Posted by Mickel on Sat, Apr 10, 2010, at 11:07 AM


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