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  • Sam,

    This day should be a national holiday. After all, only one American hero has a holiday named after him. I think it's about time we had another one.

    Happy Birthday Mr. President, we REALLY miss you!!

    -- Posted by marcus elvis erogenous on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, at 10:51 PM
  • From announcing his first candidacy for governor of California at Los Posos Country Club north of Camarillo, CA -- Ronnie Reagan wore stage makeup for every public appearance -- and his staff denied that simple fact until the end.

    Possibly the most notable detail about The Reagan Presidency, is that he spent almost ten per cent of his Presidential time at that gift ranch in the coastal hills of Santa Barbara County.

    The irony, no one seemed to mind that his political supporters bought that ranch for him, plus the famously all-Electric mansion in Pacific Palisades, plus the NEW luxurious residence overlooking the American River outside Sacramento [After Nancy refused to live in the Governor's Mansion near the Capital}, plus the San Clemente Estate where he lived after leaving the White House.

    At 2000 prices, that was about $30-Million of residential property given the Reagans by his political sponsors.

    Check the actual record --

    The Federal Debt grew under Reagan;

    The size of the California State payroll increased under Reagan;

    California debt grew under Reagan;

    The Federal Deficit grew under Reagan;

    U.S. military readiness declined under Reagan and that was just a prelude for the massive debt and deficit increases, with repeated military adventures under Poppa Bush.

    The final irony, these PROUDLY CONSERVATIVE presidents left the country in severe recession, with the Farm Belt -- including Southwest Nebraska and Northwest Kansas --- all the Corn and Wheat Belts --losing hundreds of thousands of its farmers and businesses.

    I remember those years for the reality that there was so little business on the High Plains, I wrote the area off with my business operations and concentrated upon the West Coast, Intermountain Basin and Rocky Mountain States.

    Except for the areas east of the Cascades and Sierra Nevada, business for the last three Bush years consisted of bidding in capital equipment at lumber mills, logging camps and closed mine bankruptcy and foreclosure sales.

    Someone please explain to those farmers, ranchers, businessmen and homeowners who lost everything to foreclosures and bankruptcy during those Glorious Reagan/Bush years -- What was so glorious.

    oh Yes, Reagan left the White House to almost immediately go to a very well-paid speaking gig in Japan -- Paid for by Japanese industrialists who profited so hugely from his policies. President George Herbert Walker Bush also went to Japan,leaving his stomach's contents on his host's lap.

    A national holiday? Honoring the publicly conservative president who built a larger and more expensive government?

    If we are to use a standard of:

    REDUCING the Federal Payroll:

    REDUCING the volume of federal rules and regulation:

    ELIMINATING the Federal Deficit;

    REDUCING the Federal Debt;

    ELIMINATING the global military adventures;

    INCREASING the readiness of the entire military;

    INCREASING military research and development;

    If those seven factors have any CONSERVATIVE meaning whatsoever --

    Gearjammer, guess who has been the most CONSERVATIVE president of the past 80 years.

    P.S. -- I keep reading in various responses to this blog of yours, that Al Gore --

    Well at first it was Gore has made millions from his environmental and global warming crusading;

    Then it became hundreds of millions about a month ago;

    Lately the claim is Gore has made Billions from Global Warming and his environmental efforts.

    By March, you boys will probably have Gore profiteering for TRILLIONS on Global Warming.

    None of the Super-Patriot, uber conservative types here want to volunteer to wear badges and help stop drug dealers and smuglers.


    I have another opportunity.

    Some of you come up with documented proof that will stand up in court of your claim that Al Gore has actually profited from his Global Warming and environmenal efforts.

    THE RECORD SHOWS -- He donated the proceeds from the Nobel Prize to the organizations involved.

    He has dedicated the income from is Oscar Winning movie, "AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH," to the organizations engaged in that work.

    Please, show me the documented proof.

    The State of Alaska has the proof that Miz Sary basically embezzled and misappropriated state funds for personal and family use during her short time as governor.

    Giving her the benefit of generous numbers of nights actually staying in the Governor's Mansion, the electrical wiring cost for her Tanning Bed ran to about $20 per night.

    Hey guys, it doesn't cost $20 daily for the White House vegetable garden.

    And I don't recall any problem with the Democratic Party getting stuck with $150,000 in luxury store clothes for the Obama women.

    Seems there is a rumor, Mrs. Obama still buys a lot of her dresses off the rack, from normal department stores --- just like 99.9999% of all Nebraska and Kansas women.

    Another interesting research project --

    When was the last year any of your wives -- or Mrs. Smith -- spent $150,000 in six months for clothes?

    Or -- When was the last time any of you forked over $3,200 to rewire the house so your wives could have a "Tanning Bed" installed?

    Hockey Mom? Snowmobiler? Commercial Fisherwoman? Moosehunter? Tanning Bed?

    Neiman Marcus, Saks, Bloomingdales,

    ALL with someone else picking up the bill.

    Last time I knew of a woman having someone other than her family buying fancy clothes for her, the working title was not candidate.

    Does anyone see a pattern here.

    Ike's buddies bought him a farm at Gettysburg.

    Reagan's buddies bought him a ranch, and three mansions.

    Miz Sary got some clothes, a real nice book contract, a high-pay Fox political pundits' job

    and $125,000 plus expenses to speak for a Super Patriotic convention where they couldn't find an American flag.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Sun, Feb 7, 2010, at 6:14 AM
  • Hank, Interestng article in this morning World Hearld titled

    "Obama draws from Reagan Playbook" page A-4.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Feb 7, 2010, at 7:34 AM
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    comments from Margaret Thatcher

    12/30/88 - "When we attempt an overall survey of President Reagan's term of office, covering events both foreign and domestic, one thing stands out. It is that he has achieved the most difficult of all political tasks: changing attitudes and perceptions about what is possible. From the strong fortress of his convictions, he set out to enlarge freedom the world over at a time when freedom was in retreat - and he succeeded. It is not merely that freedom now advances while collectivism is in retreat - important though that is. It is that freedom is the idea that everywhere captures men's minds while collectivism can do no more than enslave their bodies. That is the measure the change that President Reagan has wrought."

    What is it you want Hank? Do you really believe that this country should move to directly to more socialism and misery? Do you really think that Americans should kill 3000 or more innocent kids every single day? Is that a banner you want to wave?

    Your response to the words of Reagan were so full of BS, frankly I have neither the time or inclination hash all that out, but I want to try to understand you.

    With many of the comments of the hard core left it is easy to see the arrogance mixed with brainwashing. It is comic relief, and taken as such. But you Hank, I don't believe you're arrogant, nor do I believe you're brainwashed.

    I am trying to contrast your defense of the IRS versus your blistering attack on Reagan. Your deep concerns for the right of a woman to have her own child killed, just because she says so, versus the rights of free men and women not be robbed of the fruits of their labor by a bloated government.

    Once I said you were envious, not of me of course, because you are most likely enjoy far more wealth than I, but envious of those who may have been born in a better state than you.

    I find it odd that you would lead off your attack with Reagan concealing the fact that he wore makeup.

    I wonder how you ration that against JFK, and his sexual proclivities, which included movies stars etc., and the press covering that up for years? In fact there have been reports that JFK had to take pain killers, and other drugs. In fact Hank, thousands of records that would show the American people these facts were sealed for a hundred years by Congress.

    Yet, up until this moment, on my blogs, I have only talked about the good things that JFK stood for.

    -- Posted by sameldridge on Sun, Feb 7, 2010, at 10:09 AM
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    Hummm, let me see, which opinion should I give credence too, Margaret Thatcher or a cranky old buzzard? I think I will go with Ms. Thatcher. Sam, it is no shock to me that the moron triplets would strike out against President Reagan.

    Reagan's' ideas of freedom and liberty are a danger to these madcap liberals. That is why they attack Sarah Palin. She speaks of such things, and freedom and liberty are the LAST things liberals want to talk about, unless it is the freedom to kill your own baby. That freedom they insist upon, or the right to be an obnoxious homosexual. Other than that, they want the state, with them in charge, to direct our every motion, our thoughts, even our speech.

    Happy Birthday Ronnie. Thanks Sam.

    -- Posted by CandyKilroy on Sun, Feb 7, 2010, at 12:51 PM
  • read an interesting article about Palin. Seems she had written some answers in the palm of her hand for an interview she did. Perhaps she should use a teleprompter. Beats haveing to write in on your hand like a high schooler cheating on a test.

    -- Posted by president obama on Sun, Feb 7, 2010, at 1:59 PM
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    My father in-laws uncle and aunt were personally acquainted with the Reagans. When the uncle finally died, (the aunt went first at least 20 years earlier) I helped my father in-law sort through their personal belongings and pack.

    I found a letter from Ronald Reagan to the couple on his personal stationary from when he was still governor of California. I found other correspondence; some was personal, some was written in the context of a public servant sending an update to a constituent; and got the chance to read all of it.

    In every single case, it was evident that there was personal reverence and caring for the recipients of those letters. In every case there was a kind, yet serious tone. In every case there was some mention of either the concern about this country or its people; and how to best be an effective representative to the people. These things were obviously on the mind of Ronald Reagan quite a bit.

    I've heard countless tales of trash spread about Ronald Reagan, both by the media and by individuals. I've heard clueless people carry on about things they hoped were true, simply because they hated the man or what he stood for. And I've heard hate spewed as casually as disdain for bad weather by people who just plain chose to be ignorant.

    I feel privileged to have been able to take a personal glimpse into the mind and the heart of a great man. I know to my core that the venom from the left is a lie. I pray they may let Ronald Reagan rest in peace, as he cannot possibly do anything to further earn their ire.

    I will be sure to relay my personal story to my children and grandchildren; and encourage them to seek truth in all things.

    God Bless America.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Sun, Feb 7, 2010, at 4:10 PM
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    And the middle eastern foreign policy, mainly the proxy wars and arming Saddam Hussein and the Taliban?

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Mon, Feb 8, 2010, at 12:22 PM
  • Hey Conservative guys,

    Ronald Reagan was a big, handsome,amiable and incredibly charming guy. If someone would join him for cards and conversation, he was about as nice to be around as anyone on earth.

    He could memorize a two or three page speech within a half hour, give a perfect delivery and five minutes after finishing not have an inkling of where he spoke, who he spoke to or what he said.

    Giving a speech was a scene to be played and forgotten. He was a professional at memorizing scripts, presenting the lines to perfection, and moving on.

    Nancy was the steel spine in that family. Huge smile, incredible eyes -- could convince anyone she loved them more than any one, but Ronnie, just before she cut their throats.

    Barry Goldwater was an incredibly fine drinking buddy, loved the poker table, would fly to Vegas or Mexico at the slightest excuse.

    Reagan was managed by his "kitchen cabinet" who preferred he spend time at Santa Barbara so they could coach him.

    Sy Rubel, chairman of the board for Union Oil;

    Joel McCrea, brilliant businessman, real estate developer and an accomplished actor;

    Milton Teague, president of the California Chamber of Commerce and head of one of the biggest citrus producers in the state;

    Publisher Arrenberg of TV Guide.

    In the main, these were not evil men.

    Just very happy to have a governor and then a president under their direction.

    With Barry Goldwater, there simply was no legislative accomplishment. None. NADA, Zilch.

    Barry never authored a single major bill and rarely co-sponsored any legislation of importance.

    LBJ on the other hand was an insufferable hard-nose, who was no fun to be around. LBJ was just simply a poor Texas country boy who made it in politics, received Sam Rayburn's help and had the mental ability to learn the game better than anyone else.

    Barry and Ronald Reagan were both easy going, Reagan drank very little -- one drink an evening was it for him -- Barry loved the booze and female company and the poker table.

    But, neither was personally effective.

    Reagan started as a "front man."

    Barry was put up as a Senatorial candidate by the Arizona JayCees wanting to prove they could run a statewide race.

    They aimed the campaign at "snow birds" recently moved to the Desert from the snow country.

    The Arizona Old Guard felt the Senate Majority Leader, Ernest McFarland, had nothing to fear from a first time "Kid Kandidate" for the GOP.

    The "snow birds" turned out and Barry won the race.

    It only cost Arizona a few BILLION, because with the Senate Majority Leader lost, they had no hope of defeating California for Arizona's share of the Colorado River water. In addition to the Majority Leader's clout, McFarland was probably the best water law expert in the nation. Later he became Arizona's chief justice of the state Supreme Court. Oh yeah, he was tougher than cured bullhide and rattlesnake mommas used this name to scare their kids. He was just no fun, like Barry.

    California kept it for more than 40 years.

    Carl Hayden stayed in office until he was almost 100, to carry the fight for that water.

    Once the Central Arizona Project was funded, the Sheriff who made Arizona a state retired to die at home.

    Few effective political leaders are nice guys.

    Nice guys finish last and they don't like last place. Some of them chew nails for breakfast, eat hot coals for lunch and get mean before dinner.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Feb 8, 2010, at 3:50 PM
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    I'm wondering if there is any reason for these types of bloviated diatribe attempting to cast far-fetched aspersions...other than some tweaked sense of self gratification and a lack of better things to do.

    Aside from the fact that it takes half a minute to scroll past this tome that, as a sum, is as entertaining as taxcode; it is rife with unsubstantiated garble; and takes multiple personalities to simply draw a conclusion from the volume of the writings.

    My advice to newbies on the blog...just scroll past it and save yourself the ice-cream brain freeze effect.

    Carl - I'm sure you were not the first, nor will I be the last to utter "God Bless America". When I wrote it, I was actually thinking of Ronald Reagan and not you. Sorry - but I think only you really have that high of an opinion of the originality of your particular phraseology.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Mon, Feb 8, 2010, at 10:44 PM
  • QUOTE..."You must really hate all the "obnoxious homosexuals" in the Republican party who keep getting caught giving out oral sex in public parks and airport bathrooms, and soliciting underage boys in online chat rooms. It seems Republican is the new Catholic priest when it comes to sexual depravity. Not surprising, smart people have known for a long time now that most Reps are hypocritical bottom feeders.

    Reagan himself was an adulterous lying criminal...all of which are apparently favored as virtues for service in our government.

    -- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Sun, Feb 7, 2010, at 1:23 PM " UNQUOTE


    Well, you've just got to love the "tolerant, intelligent, and well-educated" party...the party of Love and Diversity for all...

    (unless you're a Republican - one of the 40% of our country that are "hypocritical bottom feeders")

    Thanks for reminding us which is truly the party of hate, intolerance, and bigotry, GI. You and your Dims have that all sewn up.


    -- Posted by MrsSmith on Tue, Feb 9, 2010, at 10:26 AM
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    Hmmm, two open bigots in a row, calling GI a bigot for pointing out facts about pubs. It is terribly confusing to try and understand those who deny every truth except for what they believe.

    I suppose with your blind admiration of Sarah Palin, that neither of you will recognize the hypocricy of the recent "R word" scuffle?

    To be fair, Guillermo should have specified that pub leaders are bottom feeders, and that pub citizens are abused, brainwashed, zombies.

    I'm not defending dems either. I'm just aghast at the current figures of inspiration for cons. It is plain to those of us who look at both sides that the cons are going through a renaissance of hatred, intolerance, and bigotry. But nice try trying to turn that one around.

    I can say with confidence that Candy's view of homosexuals and Joe's view of blacks proves my point.

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Tue, Feb 9, 2010, at 11:43 AM
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    ""Intelligent and well-educated" are certainly characteristics that more often represented in Liberals. This is a fact."

    I appreciated your link to the Pew Research Center study...however, your statement deserves the caveat of further interpretation. Just looking at graph provided in the study the conservative far right vs. the liberal far left education levels: you see an 8% edge in college education by conservatives and a 12% edge in post grad education by liberals over conservative. But that doesn't tell the whole story.

    Going back to part 1 of the study; you see the definitions between the strata of the groups in the report. Using this information one can see that separating out the stand alone "liberals" from the liberal strata vs. any other group is a bit disingenuine; as the same would be true by separating out the "enterprisers" from the rest of the conservative strata. To actually be more accurate in comparing one ideological group from the next you must take into account the next set of strata which would represent the 'middle' of the far right or the far left set. Then you find the strata that are closer to the ideological center, however, according to the prinicipal findings of the study these groups could very well be omitted from this strata and coupled with the next strata found even closer to the ideological center.

    Results? Conservatives would edge out liberals in both overall higher education and post-grad education. Relevance? Does there need to be any? Using this data as some sort of bragging right for wielding moral, intellectual or some other sort of superiority over others is just plain catty and unnecessary.

    Bigotry and hatred hold no political boundries.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Tue, Feb 9, 2010, at 8:59 PM
  • Hey Mickel,

    Stopped by a tea baggers rally two weeks ago in a serious urban area -- What us country boys once referred to as a "Big City."

    Put on my Farm Bureau cap and a Massey Ferguson windbreaker to just wander around, listen and observe.

    Asking questions.

    Ask --

    What about Obama's birth certificate?

    GOT THE EXACT SAME OUTBURST, ALMOST WORD FOR WORD, with some variation in profanity from every single person.

    What about Health Care?

    GOT THE EXACT SAME OUTBURST, ALMOST WORD FOR WORD, with some variation in profanity from every single person.

    What about Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid?

    GOT THE EXACT SAME OUTBURST, ALMOST WORD FOR WORD, with some variation in profanity from every single person.

    What about Sarah Palin, First Dude, Tripp, Bristol and Willow? Or Levi "Playboy Model" Johnson?

    Same answer to each one from everyone I asked. They were all divinely appointed, except of course for that no-good seducer of innocent virgins, Levi.

    Did not find one person who gave any indication of having attended high school through graduation.

    For pure revelation, it beat sitting in a motel room watching old movies, or CNN or even CSPAN -- but Mickel -- it did absolutely nothing for your position of conservatives being highly educated.

    Unfortunately about the same as the lineup of folks at one of Sary's booksignings last fall -- Where I went down the line with a clipboard and camera, interviewing folks and "getting photos" for a mythical daily newspaper (I made up a name, using a small city about 30 miles away).

    The answers were uniform and passionate.

    Basically, "We believe in her."


    "She's one of us."

    I asked questions of people in that line for two hours, pretending to take their photo for a newspaper.

    They made DubYah appear to be brilliant -- and that is purely impossible for our former nucuulaar president.

    Again, if there were three people in that line with educations beyond 12th grade, I could not find them. Most appeared to be about 7th or 8th grade dropouts. A high percentage of middle-aged and senior folks in that line had tattoos and many had pierced noses, lips, eyebrows, tongues and multiple-multiple ear studs.

    Nothing like a cheap dye-streaked grey haired very large woman with a snake tatooed along one arm, wrapped around her neck and down the other arm. I regret not having a memory card in that camea.

    There was a time when conservative Republican meetings were primarily people with some college, with a goodly sprinkling of people with degrees.

    Not any more.

    The Iowa Republican caucuses had a very small percentage of people with advance educations this past year.

    Even Fox News interviews could not put lipstick on that pit bull.

    Those folks were rabidly for McCain or whoever and could only speak in glittering generalities.

    "He's a great war hero!"

    -- What about the way he divorced his first wife?

    "I don't know anything about that. It was a long time ago and he is a great hero."

    --Did he win the Navy Cross or Congressional Medal of Honor?

    "He should have."

    --Are you aware he says he made propaganda videos for the North Koreans?

    "That's a lie!"

    --Even though the videos were broadcast worldwide and he admitted the fact before Congress?

    "It is still a lie!"

    When there are no shades of grey in people's thinking, everything is absolutely cut and dried, black and white and their political "heroes" can never fall off the white horse -- There is a problem.

    When anyone in a democracy or a democratic republic, or a representational democratic republic will not consider the other person's or party's viewpoints -- They are lacking common sense and reason.

    Every Republican in Congress has stated publicly that there are serious reforms and changes needed, indeed required, in the nation's Health Care Systems.

    They will not share in developing those reforms and changes. THEY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE.

    They have been in the majority for most of the past 40 years and did nothing except explode the federal deficit and debt.

    Now they accuse the Democrats of doing what they have done consistently -- Spend, build DEBT and start wars -- and what the Democrats have attempted to correct.

    This is not the mark of an educated party or of educated people.

    This nation does not need "Someone Just Like the least intelligent and least educated of the people."


    Enron, Halliburton, Kellog, Brown and Root, Blackwater and other corporate cronies had full access to the Bush/Cheney White House and siphoned TRILLIONS out of the federal treasury and the national economy.

    Yet, hard working midwesterners excuse that thievery, which directly resulted in American and local citizen's deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    American men and women died from crony corporate greed.

    What is there about that, which is hard to understand?

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Wed, Feb 10, 2010, at 6:05 PM
  • All I can say Hank is, YEAH RIGHT!

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Wed, Feb 10, 2010, at 6:58 PM
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    GI - I didn't tweak any data or omit any data. I was pointing out a glaring omission on YOUR part. An omission that basically said the education levels on both sides were approximately the same. Go back and look at the principal findings on the first page of the report for the definitions. I didn't write the report...I believe I just read more of it than you.

    This doesn't serve any end except for the truth. I invite everyone on this blog who would like to witness what GI and I are discussing to view the data for yourself and see...there is no sweeping evidence to support his "thats a fact" statement. show your IQ when you refer to Americans exercising their free rights as "tea baggers". You know why using that type of term is wrong; either that, or you are a moron. Take your pick.

    Please do us all a favor and quit acting like you are as podunk as your moniker indicates. I don't buy that you are an FB cap, MF windbreaker wearing good-ole-boy who has dung on your shoes. I also don't buy your 'gee howdy' man on the street interview. I travel extensively through NW Kansas and SW Nebraska and have yet to find the slanted views you describe in RURAL areas, let alone urban areas.

    In toto, you had absolutely nothing to contribute with another epic length diatribe aside from shoring up your own bias in your own mind.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Feb 10, 2010, at 11:20 PM
  • For GI, though Mike and Herndon should read it also.

    >>>>>>>Dumb and Dumber? What Are College Kids Learning About Our Country?

    And IF colleges were adequately teaching their students about America's history and its institutions, and the same leftward political influences were discovered, then it could be logically concluded that as citizens learned more about their country, this academic enlightenment leads naturally to liberal political enlightenment.

    >>>>But this peculiar combination of collegiate civic ignorance on the one hand, and collegiate liberalism on the other, suggests a wholly different story, one featuring academic neglect at best and political indoctrination at worst.Otherwise, it will be hard for the wizards of academia to escape the growing perception that all they are producing are a cadre of intellectual munchkins who share the wizards' political views.

    -- Posted by MrsSmith on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 10:12 AM
  • Continued...

    Dr. Richard Brake is Co-Chair of ISI's National Civic Literacy Board. For more details regarding ISI's past and current civic literacy studies, and to take the test on-line, please go to

    Well-educated liberals??? Intellectual munchkins, uneducated about real history, basic civics, or anything USEFUL...educated mostly in leftist brainwashing.

    The Party of Hate reigns supreme at most universities.

    -- Posted by MrsSmith on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 10:13 AM
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    The "Party Of Hate?" Wow, ok.

    Your link read like this:

    That's sad and shameful. I ask, what do you consider "REAL history"?

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 12:07 PM
  • Pretty simple there Jaded American, it's what really happened. Not what you and the rest of the goofy left want.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 6:02 PM
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    Oh, that's smart, Chunky. So now the left believes what they want for history? You are almost as shameful as Candy.

    What do the left "want" as far as history being different than real? Can you give an example? Oh! It must be something really logical like "Chairman Mao was a true patriot" or "Communism was good!"

    So you think the left is goofy? That's so cute. I think the Tea Party right is insane. And poor people like you and Candy a

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 7:05 PM
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    Oh, that's smart, Chunky. So now the left believes what they want for history? You are almost as shameful as Candy.

    What do the left "want" as far as history being different than real? Can you give an example? Oh! It must be something really logical like "Chairman Mao was a true patriot" or "Communism was good!"

    So you think the left is goofy? That's so cute. I think the Tea Party right is insane. And poor people like you and Candy are brainwashed worse than the Germans were by Hitler.

    Turn off Fox. Go outside and take a breath. Try to come back to reality and give me an example of the false history you are vaguely mentioning, so idiotically.

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 7:05 PM
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    Oh, that's smart, Chunky. So now the left believes what they want for history? You are almost as shameful as Candy.

    What do the left "want" as far as history being different than real? Can you give an example? Oh! It must be something really logical like "Chairman Mao was a true patriot" or "Communism was good!"

    So you think the left is goofy? That's so cute. I think the Tea Party right is insane. And poor people like you and Candy a

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 7:06 PM
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    Oh, that's smart, Chunky. So now the left believes what they want for history? You are almost as shameful as Candy.

    What do the left "want" as far as history being different than real? Can you give an example? Oh! It must be something really logical like "Chairman Mao was a true patriot" or "Communism was good!"

    So you think the left is goofy? That's so cute. I think the Tea Party right is insane. And poor people like you and Candy a

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 7:06 PM
  • Could you please repeat that again, Jaded American?

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 7:25 PM
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    Carl - I am not going to stop mentioning abortion. I know you'd like me too, as there is innocent blood all over your hands.

    Not going to play your game Carl, you're a sick puppy, and you need help. Ask God to forgive you, He will. Only the blood of Christ can wash away your hate and with that hate, your stupidity.

    -- Posted by sameldridge on Thu, Feb 11, 2010, at 9:38 PM
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    Yeah, my connection was like the party of no yesterday, my apologies.

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 7:24 AM
  • -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 8:05 PM
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    Sorry Carl, but you are still a lame brain - the Nazi Party members that were still alive at the end of WW2 tried the same thing as you. They cried that they had nothing to do with robbing and killing over 6 million Jews. Most Americans viewed that as hogwash.

    When you vote for and openly support people that see to it that millions of innocents are slaughtered, you are a part of that holocaust.

    God in your heart? Not even close. You are like the Jews of Christ' time. They had God standing right in front of them, and they wanted to kill him.

    In fact, I find you far more detestable than the average liberal jerk, because you claim God, and yet you support pure evil.

    You will answer for your stupidity and hate Carl, one way or another. You will answer for those you led astray will your liberal theology.

    Christ said that it would be better for those who hurt kids, to have a millstone tied around their necks and tossed in the sea, than to have to face the Judgement. You leftists have done everything in your political power to see to it that the abortion holocaust continues.

    You say I have an evil nature huh? Again, I say thanks. That comment from you witnesses to me that I am on the right track. The Jews of Christ' time called Him evil as well.

    It is folks like you Carl, that have led God's people down the wrong path with your pathetic example of alledged holiness.

    Better pray hard Carl, you're gonna need it.

    -- Posted by sameldridge on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 9:29 PM
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    P.S. Carl - There is still time for you to repent. I wonder if your ego will allow it.

    -- Posted by sameldridge on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 9:32 PM
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    Sam, after reading your responses to Carl, we'd like to add a big DITTO!!!!!!!! I think you once wrote that the real fight today is between Christians, between people like Carl that polute God's message, and those true Christians who have the stones to stand for what is right.

    -- Posted by CandyKilroy on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 9:57 PM
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    Yo Candy! Hey there! It is kinda funny down here in the deep South, watching folks who hardly ever see snow, dress up like they are going to ride snowmobiles.

    The fork lift drivers who loaded my truck today, had on down filled jackets, insulated gloves, ear flaps, and they were shivering. I am thankful for this winter though Candy, because all over the world, the global warming hoax has been exposed. I think you'll like my next blog. Thanks for staying in touch.

    By the way, we may be a bit hard on Carl, although Lord knows he deserves it! Liberalism has infected our government, our colleges, our pop culture and legal system. Why would we not think that nasty liberalism would not attack Christianity as well? Truth be known, liberal thinking is what has caused so much dissension and infighting between Christians. Carl may very well be a victim of that liberal infestation.

    However, having said that, we cannot tolerate Carl, or folks like him, putting forth the idea that Christians can vote for, and support evil, and not be a part of that evil.

    Give my best to hubby, will ya? Blessings dear lady!

    -- Posted by sameldridge on Fri, Feb 12, 2010, at 10:09 PM
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    Poor Carl the Snarl, Sam once again exposes you for a phony.

    What you fail to understand, is that respect for life is a BASIC, a FUNDEMENTAL. You must first get the BASIC down before you move on to advanced thought. You liberals want to engage in advanced thinking before understand the bedrock or underlying truth. That is liberalism, engaging in advanced thought without understanding the basics. I have read the Bible several times Snarl, just where does it say that we are to accept Christ, then keep it to ourselves? Where does it say that we can abandon the weak to support the popular political movement?

    The more I think about it Snarl, I wonder if you are really a believer at all. I think you are another one of these liberal phonies, pretending to be a believer so that you can try and browbeat Sam and other Christians into submission. It isn't going to work.

    -- Posted by Leo.Pold on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 8:25 AM
  • show your IQ when you refer to Americans exercising their free rights as "tea baggers". You know why using that type of term is wrong; either that, or you are a moron. Take your pick. Mickel


    Mickel -- my ex computer serviceman proudly labels himself a "Tea Bagger." (His politics did not cost him my business. His increasingly high prices and sorry workmanship did.)

    A group outside a college auditorium last summer protesting a Health Care town hall, were wearing strings loaded with tea bags and boasting of being "Tea Baggers."

    The organizers of the less than 1,000 present in Nashville last weekend, called it the "TeaBagger Convention" and someone put up $125,000 for Miz Sary to speak. She actually got off some funny lines, offered no new policy positions, spoke and cashed the check.

    If it is good enough for them to claim it, I have no objection. Why should I??

    Apparently you do object to them picking an identifier for themselves.


    Sam -- What you wrote as an expression of your Christian faith. Think about it.

    "God in your heart? Not even close. You are like the Jews of Christ' time. They had God standing right in front of them, and they wanted to kill him.

    "In fact, I find you far more detestable than the average liberal jerk, because you claim God, and yet you support pure evil.

    "You will answer for your stupidity and hate Carl, one way or another. You will answer for those you led astray will your liberal theology."

    Sam, I purely don't want you, Chunky, Mrs. Smith, Leo, Jose or Newt Gingrich deciding what my daughter does with her body.

    Nor should you decide for my M.D. daughter-in-law.

    That is not my decision, now that she is considerably older than 16, even 18, even 21.

    It sure as thunder is not your decision.

    Just as I do not get to tell the women in your family what to do with their bodies.

    Nor should I.


    Jose, I'm sorely disappointed. You just won't believe I'm perfect.

    "--Are you aware he says he made propaganda videos for the North Koreans?"

    YEP, MY GOOF. The black hats torturing American fliers and friends of mine in the 1950s were the North Koreans.

    McCain was there for the North Vietnamese to pound on.

    As jailers and torturers go, I admit difficulty keeping them separated.

    FACT REMAINS, JOSE, It is on the record McCain made propaganda films/videotapes for the North Vietnamese.

    He admits it.

    Has never denied it.

    Wrote about it.

    It is also on the record that he essentially got a free pass for admission to Annapolis, even after attending the Naval Academy "make-up" prep school to bring his grades and prerequisites up nearer requirements.

    It is on the record that he was one of the most problematic Midshipmen in Annapolis history.

    It is on the record that he was graduated at the bottom of his class, having walked a record number of punishment tours.

    It is on the record that he crashed jet after jet after jet and was allowed to continue flying, even though he was a discipline and conduct problem.

    Helps to have two admirals in the family.

    Navy policy was and is -- wreck two of their jets and that ex-aviator is flying a desk for the rest of his career -- either that or is a permanent mess or "head" inspecting officer.

    After Nam, it is on the record he shacked up in Hawaii with that much younger, blonde heiress in her luxury condo -- returning to the mainland when his wife went into the cancer ward and then he walked in with divorce papers.

    After marrying Cindy Henseley, her millions bought a house seat and the senate spot.

    His campaigns --"I was shot down in Viet Nam and was a POW."

    I keep looking for something in his record to give me pride as an American.

    Have tried to find it for more than 20 years.

    Disobeying procedural orders and getting your fanny shot down, does not qualify as heroism.

    Making those films under those circumstances should not condemn or even besmirch a man, if all else in all the POWs' records was even.

    But Everett Alvarez was the longest imprisoned POW naval aviator. Everett was the first shot down by a SAM -- how the U.S. discovered North Viet Nam had the rockets.

    Everett Alvarez never received a free pass on anything. He was an American kid of Mexican descent out of the California fields, who somehow earned his wings.

    The North Viets wanted this brown-skinned pilot speaking their words to the world.

    They never got that pleasure from Everett.

    But John McCain, son and grandson of admirals, made up for it to them.

    Sorry if my mistyping Korea for Viet Nam has destroyed your faith in all humanity -- but Hey, it was somewhere between 2 and 5 a.m. when I got in from the airport and after getting necessary business taken care of-- decided to check on the Gearjammer.

    For once did not go back and check things, just sent it out to Red Willow and took me to bed.

    Now I won't get a gold star.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Sat, Feb 13, 2010, at 8:50 PM
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    GI - don't like using the Pew data's own description of the study when using the want to put on your own special colored glasses and propose that Dems overall are more educated than Reps...I'm going to poke a hole in your ballon.

    Lets take another look at the graph found in the very section of the study you claim supports your assertion. Looking at the collective grouping of Reps vs Dems (and not the various striations...I was trying to give you the benefit of being able to use the they actually would save you some egg on the face...but whatever) you can see that the overall percentage of conservatives with some education and higher education vs liberals with some education and higer education is represented thusly:

    Conservatives: College Grad 60% Post Secondary Education 28%

    Liberals: College Grad 43% Post Secondary Education 35%

    It would ALMOST look like you are correct in your assertion that libs overall have a higher PSE rate. But look again at the base numbers.

    If you have a PSE rate of 28% that is based on a number of 60% of conservatives - you end up with a higher number of people than you would by having a 35% PSE rate of a number of 43% liberal college graduates. After all - PSE is AFTER a college degree not BEFORE it. Another way to look at it would be to consider the numbers of college graduates as a complete group in and of themselves. You have a 28% PSE rate of 100% of conservative college grads. You have a 35% PSE rate of 100% of libral college grads. The difference in college graduate numbers of con vs. lib is 60% vs. 43% - a 17% difference in typology that doesn't take into account the numbers of con vs. lib students attending college in the first place. However, a 35% lib PSE rate vs. a 28% of con PSE rate is only 7%. This 7% number would have to be diluted due to the disparity of con vs lib college grads in the first place.

    On top of that you have to take into account the number of people in the nation that classify themselves as conservative vs. liberal. This would water down the liberal numbers even further, as approximately 60% of people in this nation consider themselves conservative.

    And finally - your state by state breakdown must have been a lot of work...but did you take into account the outmigration and the inmigration of the red vs. blue states?

    -- Posted by Mickel on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 11:11 AM
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    Hank - I can't help it if you and your ex-computer serviceman both choose to be sophomoric. "Tea bagger" is more than diminutive and your insistence upon using it shows that you are emotionally immature.

    You may want to lay off watching the Bill and Ted movies and Wayne's World for awhile.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Mon, Feb 15, 2010, at 11:19 AM
  • Mickel,

    I'll make it easy.

    You get the organizers of the Nashville TeaBagger bash to removed the word, title and description from their printed programs, press releases, souvernirs, imprinted ball point pens and credentials -- I'll use whatever title they replace TEA BAGGER WITH.

    GUARANTEE, you would not like my selection of terms for the types of individuals I saw there, or their conduct during Miz Sary's $125,000 speech.

    Somehow, which hardworking blue collar worker it was that put up the $125,000 plus expenses for the Wizardess of Wasilla to pocket, does not appear to have planned it for the 600-1,000 people present at the officially "TEABAGGER CONVENTION."

    Probably wanted the free time on three cable networks and "Ultra-Liberal-Not" Ruppie Murdoch's Fox Network.

    Frankly, I don't care what they call themselves.

    Butl -- if their legions object to the name, keep it to HELL off the official printed material.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Tue, Feb 16, 2010, at 8:38 AM
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    GI - Myopic? Certainly you can agree that an opinion poll that interviews less than 3200 Americans will have a general cross-section view of our culture and not a hi-def picture of the American people. Then add in the 5+ or 5- margin for error allowed for these types of polls and you get an even fuzzier look at your "hard" numbers.

    When I was comparing sets, I was comparing sets; and not a set vs. a singularity as you suggest. I kept them separate - review what I posted and you'll see.

    But, alright. Lets deal with the straight across comparison you so eagerly wish to use as the fulcrum for your argument.

    First...let's deal with the quote you keep posting. "Liberals have the highest education level of any typology group 49% are college graduates and 26% have some postgraduate education."

    There's a second part to that quote..."But the Enterprisers also include a relatively high percentage of college graduates (46%), although fewer Enterprisers than Liberals have attended graduate school (14%)."

    Now - want to hang your hat on your assertion based on THIS? You are talking about a statistical flatline in the instance of college education...and then you tout "26% have some postgraduate education" as your rock evidence? Did you even READ what it said? SOME post graduate education. We're not even talking about about a 50% graduation rate when you talk about SOME. If it was HIGHER than 50% it would have said 'most'. But it didn't. I think you need to take 'Statistics 102'.

    Either I said in my first post about this...the educational levels of both ideologies are similar.

    "more highly educated voters tend to vote Democratic." - Normally I would say that statement is a stretch. In the instance of Obama's POTUS election, I would say you had a cross-section of voters on both sides of the aisle that threw support toward the Dem ticket. If you wouldn't have had a healthy cross-section of support, the Dems would have never found themselves in a super-majority, and particularly without Conservative voters. I wouldn't count on that kind of anomaly happening again soon.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Feb 17, 2010, at 3:18 PM
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    Hank - after searching for evidence of your assertion that the insulting term "tea-bagger" is self imposed by a group representing a tea party...I found...zilch, nada, nothing, zero. In fact the only reference I found was the term being used by groups who wanted to be nasty and snarky while mentioning freedom loving Americans engaged in Constitutional activity.

    If you have a link...please post it. Otherwise, I'll assume you won't be using the off-colored term anymore.


    -- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Feb 17, 2010, at 4:13 PM
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    GI - I was, as you put it, (combining) comparing sets to get those figures. It was not a misread of the graph, but a combining of the subsets. But, my above post is now focused on the lone sets to which you have been referring.

    Taking the lone sets by themselves doesn't prove your point. Even with your triangulated I made a large breech in your argument by presenting credible data that conservatives outnumber liberals in this country by an almost 2 to 1 margin.

    I'll put it in terms Hank can understand - If you have one apple and send 49% of it to college, and out of that 49% - SOME of 26% of it attended graduate school; you would have VASTLY LESS than if you had two apples; sent 46% of it to college and out of that 46% - 14% attends graduate school. In terms of sheer numbers, you are outnumbered 2 to 1.

    I may not have disproved your assertion. However, you are clearly falling short of proving it. All things considered, the onus is upon you to go back to the drawing board.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Feb 17, 2010, at 6:55 PM
  • What a load of Crap GI. Hank's style is a bizarre stream of recolections lost in time. I don't think any of it is true. Literary quality? maybe from the House of Bedlam.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Feb 19, 2010, at 9:01 PM
  • "like me"? So you know who Iam, what I do? Hoo Rah GI.

    Flare and style in writing what a hoot.

    Carl, Hank gets what he gives and why should god bless only America? you a xenophobe?

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Feb 20, 2010, at 7:38 AM
  • Fasinating, GI are you british royalty or William the conqueror?

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Feb 20, 2010, at 1:03 PM
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    GI - "Here is the premise: data suggests that the more educated people become, the more people tend to vote for Democratic candidates. Or put another way, Liberals tend to be the highest educated voting demographic."

    It must just kill you that all those highly educated Democrats voted in Republicans in New Jersey, Massachusetts and Virginia. (and almost New York) Maybe those highly educated Dems tuned their sharp IQ's to the correct frequency?

    Maybe they just didn't get the memo. I get the feeling this is going to happen again.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Mon, Feb 22, 2010, at 9:29 PM
  • "Herndonhank knew Adam Smith and hosted him at his house several times. I will ask him what Adam Smith thinks of this. While I am there he also was in Rotary with Thomas Hobbes so I will see how Hobbes would feel about our discussion also.

    -- Posted by hankherndon on Fri, Feb 19, 2010, at 9:00 AM"

    Backwards Hank -- Your ignorance knows no bounds.

    Whon'ell are Adam Smith and Thomas Hobbes in real Nebraska/High Plains Rotary life?

    Reviewed all the Rotarians remembered from my years and individuals with those names never placed their feet beneath my dining table.

    Since it was you, can't be any hope you are acquainted with recognized men of letters.

    You apparently have a talent for jumping at erroneous conclusions, coupled with an inability to find yourself an original blog handle.

    Said talent exceeded only by your ignorance, compounded by your failures in life -- clearly reflected by your anger toward anyone who actually completed grade school, held a serious job, or ever paid cash for a car or real estate.


    By the way -- you may not find the term tea baggers in the official Tea Party material on the internet.

    Just don't go near any of their meetings, even those mammoth (600-800 people) national conventions.

    Sadly, their claim to lead a revolution is equal to Boston's claim to have started the colonists' revolution. [Reality, the early North Carolina settlers of Alamance County revolted against the crown's governor and corrupt officials a good many years before the Sons of Liberty. Only those early North Carolina farmers revolted with guns and not fake warpaint and feathers.

    And try as you might, there is no way to convert those Tea Party/Bagger folks to liberals in at least four states where I have encountered them.

    Quite the contrary -- Most are well to the right of Boo, Jose, GearJammer, Mrs. Smith, Backassward Henri and ol' Chunky.

    The more reasonable ones are still well right of Shotgun Cheney.

    Frankly I can't help but wonder if Gen. Powell's remarks concerning blind opposition and obstructionism toward the Elected President had anything to do with Shotgun's heart attack later the same day.

    Worthy of consideration, "Balanced Budget" Bill Clinton overexerted himself in Haiti on a pure humanitarian mission and generated a heart problem.

    Shotgun had a respected Republican disagree with him and had a heart attack.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Tue, Feb 23, 2010, at 4:39 PM
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    "By the way -- you may not find the term tea baggers in the official Tea Party material on the internet. "

    I already told you credibility just shot through the roof getting ol' Hank to back up one of my statements.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Tue, Feb 23, 2010, at 8:34 PM
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    Here is an interesting article written by one of GI's favorite class of people...educated Dems. This one is a professor at Hofstra U named David Michael Green.


    -- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Feb 24, 2010, at 8:48 PM
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    You know, having to explain a good joke really, just, ruins it.

    Same applies here.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Feb 24, 2010, at 10:06 PM
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    Y'know, we really need to sit down to a beer one day. Coffee, chai or Dr. Pepper would work too.

    I bet it would be a hoot.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Thu, Feb 25, 2010, at 9:30 PM
  • Backassward Hank,

    Maybe the Gazette can contact the Governor's office and get the warden to extend you a furlough so you can join their tea party.



    If you pick this up.

    Did you get home and do you have any Owner Operators wanting to lease or sell their late model tractors and 53' dry vans with payments.

    My guy here should be getting his check from Labor Court soon.

    If you have never got to hear a Judge rip six new ones from company excecutives, you have truly missed one of life's greatest pleasures.

    I can only hope the Arrow people get some measure of justice. Helluva note, when Swift starts riding to the rescue of drivers.

    Hope those boys who took them up on their offers, make sure to count their fingers after shaking hands.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Mar 1, 2010, at 6:01 PM
  • This small town buried a hero today.

    Josiah, the fun-loving boy everyone knew as "Biker Joe" came home the final time.

    From the Interstate, along the state highway, along the narrow Main Street, all traffic stopped for the six miles to the cemetery. Seemingly every U.S. flag in two states was visible.

    Every deputy sheriff and reserve deputy, every police officer and reserve , every cadet for six departments in the area was either in the funeral procession or posted at an intersection.

    Every full-time and volunteer fireman, on-duty and off duty alike, were ranked in full uniform before the fire station.

    All Post Office employees were at attention, in uniform.

    Four scout troops lined the courthouse square, each scout presenting the flag.

    Ranked behind, greying members of the VFW, American Legion and Disabled American Veterans.

    City hall and courthouse staffs were at attention, Judges in robes, bailiffs in uniform, overweight men and women in business dress -- everyone at attention.

    The funeral procession was preceded by single motorcycle officers from the six departments , two county Sheriff's departments and the State Police, followed by the hearse bearing a small town's Hero.

    Behind the hearse, at least one hundred of "Biker Joe's" cycling buddies, his brother leading the group with Joe's favorite dirt bike.

    Behind from the biggest and most loaded Harleys down to stripped down motocross racers.

    Then the procession of autos, the white stretch limos with the family and three miles of Joe's friends.

    Joe came home to be with his family and friends, Americans all..

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, at 5:49 PM
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