I Want To Be Optimistic

Posted Wednesday, January 20, 2010, at 5:20 PM
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  • May all, in Service to Country, and elected to serve in Congress, from this point on, do so with Sane, Dedicated, Honest, Republican, dedication, placing God back into their deliberations, and deductulating, as they vote the Will of the People they represent.

    I fear we may have passed the Point of No Return, but can only hope, until God steps in, and brings the insanity to a screeching Halt.

    -- Posted by Navyblue on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 7:06 PM
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    You may be right Sam that the President will move forward, regardless of the message he received from the voters. Please check out this story from CNSNEWS that says Obama now wants to take over the student loan industry.


    What do you make of this?

    -- Posted by backgammon on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 7:26 PM
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    Interesting article - I am not surprised. I don't think it is wise to get young people thousands of dollars in debt to the Government.

    This indoctrinates millions of young people into thinking that they NEED government to go to college.

    Not only will the young person owe the government money, but now bureaucrats have loads of personal information on the young student. You young folks, just leave everything to big brother progressive government.

    Get people into a position to have to support massive government because they are beholden to government.

    -- Posted by sameldridge on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 7:58 PM
  • Gearjammer,

    Sorry to rain on your parade.

    The Democratic Party's "Pols" in Massachusetts put a "deserving" party hack into the race, thinking she deserved the chance.

    Brown comes in with a decent record and some credentials. (Granted his national guard service started during Viet Nam, apparently as a way to avoid active combat duty, but he stayed in and served well beyond draft eligibility.)

    His other service has been excellent, but the big thing he has been much more than a professional "Pol".

    Basically the Dems made a mistake similar to the governor's race in Virginia, where they thought they could run an old mossback ridgerunner from the western Blue Ridge and win with the urban eastern voters.

    By the time Brown gets to D.C., the Health Care package will probably be signed into law.

    The house members will accept the Senate version with few changes and the votes are there.

    We already know what Sam and Company will be screaming -- that this is typical dirty politics and they should wait until Brown is seated and can force a filibuster.

    Remember Sam, for all the years of Reagan/Bush, Nixon and Bush/Cheney the Democrats could have filibustered and obstructed and delayed and used every House and Senate rule to prevent the Republicans from passing a lot of bad laws.

    That didn't happen.

    Since January, all the Republicans have done is attempt to obstruct any congressional action and any of the needed reform.

    Did you notice Tuesday -- The FBI has been proven to have repeatedly violated Federal Law, the Constitution and all Congressional directives to illegally secure massive numbers of telephone records from several telephone companies in support of Bush/Cheney activities.

    No indication any of those illegally obtained records were needed for Homeland Security or National Defense.

    You keep crying about the Democrats offending your political sensitivities -- The Bush/Cheney operations did not just offend, they violated Federal Law and trampled all over the Constitution.

    And the Neo-Cons complain about the White House Dog, Garden and the people living there.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 10:30 PM
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    Crank - you are soooooo far out there, so far removed from reality, it is hard for me at times to even believe you are for real.

    I mean really, you're plumb goofy.

    You talk about needed reform, and Crank, the reform that is needed is reform from the progressives that have infected our society for years.

    If Obama and the new Stalinist, the Obama progressives, ram this health care takeover through, as it stands, get ready for a revolt Crank ole boy.

    I have often wondered what screwed you up so badly in your thinking.

    You're ridiculous as you worry about Bush-Cheney trampling all over the rights of Muslim Americans talking to Al Queda on the phone.

    How very civil libertarian of you. I wish you had an equal amount of concern for the three thousand babies murdered each day, but you are a phony, like most leftists, so your compassion stinks.

    More than that Crank, there are times when I seriously wonder if all your dogs are barking.

    The absolute crimes committed under this Democrat President and the last Democrat President, and you worry about Al-Queda phone calls. It is just too phony Crank.

    Maybe you can volunteer to be the first senior rationed to death Crank. C'mon, be a good little leftist robot. Volunteer to be rationed to death for the good of mankind.

    And don't try and tell me that Reagan broke laws, because that is a lie, as is most of what you say.

    Sorry Crank, but you're a wacko.

    -- Posted by sameldridge on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, at 12:38 AM
  • My insurance rations my health care now.

    Im just grateful that there were no crimes committed during the republican years.

    Its not just muslim americans they are listening to sam. Its everyone. The patriot act gave the government you hate the power to look into every aspect of your life with out cause or warrents.

    -- Posted by president obama on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, at 12:18 PM
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    This talk about the Patriot Act got me thinking again about a funny quirk of partisans. Republicans seem willing to give up freedoms for security, Democrats for social justice. The really funny thing to me is that then they spend considerable effort denouncing the other side for hypocrisy when they do the same thing.

    -- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, at 2:00 PM
  • Gearjammer,

    If you bothered to read the details of whose telephone records the FBI was gathering, your lack of concern for "muslim Americans" would be replaced with concern for others subjected to illegal search and seizure.

    How would you like it if you drove into to a state scale and inspection station, were yanked out of your cab and held for 72 hours under vigorous interrogation without charges -- while your truck, your company's headquarters, your home and personal autos were torn apart -- and all your bank accounts and financial records confiscated.

    Seem far fetched??

    That's the next step after illegal search and seizure of any sort.

    The nation's conservatives have gone from defending the Constitution "To-The-Death" to accepting trampling of the Constitution in the name of expediency.

    Then you come out with:

    "The absolute crimes committed under this Democrat President and the last Democrat President,"....

    Detail the absolute felonies-- in tabular form, citing the federal felony statute for each.

    Gearjammer -- you made the unqualified statement,

    "The absolute crimes committed under this Democrat President and the last Democrat President,"-- and when it comes down to basics, the one absolute is that Bill Clinton denied "having sexual relations with that woman."

    Which was a civil misdemeanor, NOT a felony.

    As for needed reform, start with this latest decision by the Supreme Court's "CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY" on no-limit political contribution.

    The fact is, special interests finance campaign expenses to guarantee special treatment from those benefiting when they are in office.

    He who pays the piper -- Calls the tune.


    The Haitian relief $10 donation via cell phones has proven the American people can adequately fund all election campaigns with small donations.

    Combine that approach, with absolute spending limits and quit selling public offices to the highest bidders.

    It makes no difference as to Party affiliation.

    A party or individual selling out to the biggest contributor is a political *****.

    In the last 50 years, I've discovered no virgins in the political world.

    WE THE PEOPLE will not require and enforce election reform!!!

    Sam, as admittedly one of the less educated individuals around, you are not qualified to decide the propriety of any university student applying for a federal student loan.

    You credit yourself as being a superior intellect, when in reality you are a poorly informed blue collar truck driver.

    You have writing talent.

    The tragedy is you refuse to direct your gift into areas where you actually possess competence.

    You rail against socialistic government health reform -- and are thrilled to the point of pants-wetting with the election of an Independent from the state which has the most complete government controlled health program in America.

    Have you bothered to listen to Sen-elect Brown?

    He stated flatly in front of the Senate office building this morning, he objects to lessening the State of Mass. health care program [Which covers 98% of all Mass. residents] with the proposed federal health plans -- which he recognizes would improve care in the 49 other states.

    He made it very clear that he will listen and seek a middle ground and firmly believes Pres. Obama is operating correctly.

    Sam, your frenzied caterwauling is counter-productive.

    This constant diatribe against anyone you disagree with is the mark of ignorance.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, at 5:24 PM
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    Sam - the secret to being optimistic is to decide to be.

    When the blokes are getting you down, remember that you have to keep it in perspective. My uncle sent me the following in an email - and I thought it would fit right in here...

    The economy is so bad that:

    . . . I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.

    . . . I ordered a burger at McDonald's and the kid behind the counter asked, "Can you afford fries with that?"

    . . . If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you call them and ask if they meant you or them.

    . . . A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico .

    . . . Exxon-Mobil laid off 25 Congressmen.

    . . . Congress says they are looking into this Bernard Madoff scandal. Oh Great!! The guy who made $50 Billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made $1.5 Trillion disappear!

    And, finally...

    . . . I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc., I called the Suicide Lifeline. I got a call center in Pakistan, and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck.

    Keep the rubber on the road, my friend.


    -- Posted by Mickel on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, at 10:47 PM
  • Mickel

    too funny, spit coffee all over the screen :)

    best post for a long time, thanks for the laugh!

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 5:49 AM
  • "he who pays the piper -- Calls the tune"

    Hank, this quote is from your last post. We elected the democrats who were trying to force health care reform upon us. Do you really think we were or are calling the tune?

    Even now, in response to 1 election the dems are changing their path in an attempt to salvage seats in the november election by moving to the center with great concern for jobs. I believe this is all a smoke screen and I hope the voters can see through it and recognize the manuevers behind and realize the democrats are just falling back to regroup.


    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 6:53 AM
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    Oh, now don't be so worked up about the health care thing. I know con/pubs have an intense aversion to the government helping anyone with their tax money..

    But take heart! Soon your swarm will be back in power and right back to unrestrained warmaking with my tax dollars. Our supreme court just made sure of it.

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 8:53 AM
  • Jaded I guess you are satisfied with your dems telling you "just wait until you see what is in the health care bill, you will like it" Harry Reid. Then he retreats behind closed doors to cut a deal with the unions to exempt them from the taxes others will have to pay.

    There are people whom need our help, however there exists an equally large group who spend their days working the system of welfare to avoid a job. They don't deserve our help.

    We vote for people to represent us, not use us.

    I think the dems will be meeting behind closed doors again, probably to consider reconciliation to force a bill any type of bill, just so the dems can say we did it, we passed health care reform.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 12:46 PM
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    "Behind closed doors" - that's a nice new catch phrase being used every other sentence. Rush must have said it a few times.

    Boojum, the bill has been compromised so thoroughly to try and accomodate for repub support that many on the actual left don't support it.

    I understand your welfare argument and agree. But there still has to be some help for some. That is, unless you like the fact that many people simply DIE because they can't get insurance now. I guess there is no sense in trying to express a human position to people with subhuman hearts.

    And by that I mean people who take their position in life for granted and feel no concern for the fact that many, who may be just like them, having a pre-existing condition and having no medical option on the table. The insurance company will act as a panel, if you will, and sink large resources into NOT covering these people. Which often leads to early death while these people with subhuman hearts carry on with BS as usual. Typically these same people have an equal lack of concience when it comes to billions of tax dollars spent on unbridled warmaking with only private business interests benefitting from it.

    Now, is this the part where someone yells "abortion"?

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 2:47 PM
  • Jose and Samuel,

    The Democrats do not need a single Republican vote to pass any measure.

    The problem is the Republicans are totally committed to the old Dixie-Crat filibuster.

    If Sen.-elect Brown hangs with the GOP in voting for filibuster, the party of obstruction will continue denying government by the people.

    Perfected to prevent passage of any federal human rights measures.

    It is the current GOP in both houses which is determined to prevent a straight up or down vote on the final measure.

    This despite having 169 GOP amendments approved in committee, compared with less than 36 Democratic amendments.

    With all committees, there have been more than 500 hours of open public hearings, plus the open debate on both floors.

    Yet, screaming parrots continue insisting the final proposals from Senate and House have been created in secrecy.

    Any voter who wants to can go on the internet and read all 2000-plus pages.

    That has never happened for any measure before any Republican controlled congress.

    As for "Those who pay the piper, call the tune."

    The GOP has never quit screaming that President Obama was able to out-finance their huge corporate and fat-cat donations with an average donation of less than $70, primarily raised with Internet donations from average citizens.

    They supported Obama knowing his goals of Health Care Reform, closing GitMo Prison, closing our southern border to drug and human smugglers, getting our troops our of Iraq and concentrating upon Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    He campaigned on those things and has been delivering. The millions of $5-50 donators are gettting what they want.

    The wealthy corporations and other fat cats lost.

    Now they have you and other lackeys to do their fighting for them.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 3:59 PM
  • hank I need your help

    "This despite having 169 GOP amendments approved in committee, compared with less than 36 Democratic amendments."

    I have been trying to find this with google with out any luck. Where did you find this information.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 5:40 PM
  • Jaded

    The current dem version of the health care bill prohibits exclusion for pre existing conditions.

    I may be wrong, I think Ben Nelson negotiated this provision. Also, the insurance companies will not be acting as a panel, it will be a goverment appointed panel.

    As for Unbridled war, Obama has found out he cannot stop anything yet, indeed he has increased the use of drones to kill suspected terrorists. I say good for him. shoot Jaded your good pal Hank thinks we should Nuke em now thats a bit extreme don't ya think?

    Maybe you need to go back a bit in time to discover that the dems voted to go into Iraq and Afganistan when Bush was the potus. Both the dems and repubs have voted to do this. Even when the dems have a filibuster proof super majority, they voted to support the Afgan troop increase.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 5:53 PM
  • Behind closed doors" - that's a nice new catch phrase being used every other sentence. Rush must have said it a few times.

    Jaded it is not a catch phrase, it's the facts.

    Rush didn't say it, the Dems are doing it doesn't this bother you at all? Reid and other dems have come right out and said, "just wait until you see whats in this bill, you'r going to love it." Why do we need to wait? If its going to be so great the dems should have been shouting it loud and long and drumming up the support they think they have. As it turns out even Obama admits on national tv " we haven't be listening to the people" maybe it was radio whatever. There it is, Obama admits he is out of touch.

    Do you like how your dems communicate with you?

    As I said before we vote for these people to represent us, not use us.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 6:05 PM
  • Gi give it up, their policies failed and Obama was swept in to office on a platform that many many people supported. Now it looks like the presidents policies have failed or begining to fail. A super majority and the dems cannot get anything passed. Why the heck not? It cannot be blamed on Bush, Cheney or any other Republican.

    The Dems cannot get it done, can they.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 7:09 PM
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    Jaded - I've simply never heard of anyone dying because they did not have health insurance. I understand your passion, but I seriously question that statement.

    Doctors have long lived by the Hippocratic oath which compels them to treat people regardless of financial reciprocation; that aside, it is federal law for anyone who seeks aide in an emergency room to be treated regardless of economic circumstances or level of being insured.

    As it so happens, these visits to the ER's are funded by the taxpayers of this country. So we have doctors, healthcare facilities, and the American people in collusion for positive outcome in emergency healthcare. Now I ask you....what is subhuman about that?

    Insurance is a financial instrument designed to protect an individual or family from loss. Premiums are based on levels of risk that are assumed or transferred from the individual or family to the insurance company. Insurance companies are businesses and they are not only allowed to make a profit, but expected to. If you are unhappy about the level of products that they offer you, I would suggest you consult your elected representatives, as it is they who make the regulations concerning the industry, where and what they are allowed to sell.

    Healthcare is also a business - and the type of healthcare that is involved in the current "ponzi scheme" bill is all reactive. Reactive healthcare is the most expensive and, among all the ways to address healthcare, is the worst way to treat patients. Pro-active healthcare is the best type of healthcare. Pro-active healthcare puts the onus on the individuals to take steps to ensure their own optimal health. The problem with a nationalized health care system, is that the power of choice over our lives is turned over to the federal government. Conceivably any activity in which we engage could then be regulated. Everything we do in our lives could be somehow tied into affecting our health.

    As far as pre-existing conditions are concerned; I'll pay for my families', and my own, thank you. And I truly do not want to pay for anybody elses. In fact; my health plan right now is a High Deductible Health Plan which is paid for out of a Health Savings Account. What does this mean? It means that I and my wife are responsible for the brunt of our families health care costs until we meet our deductible. Even considering the cost of needing to meet our deductible each year before we enjoy insurance coverage; the plan is still less expensive than and HMO. If this health care bill goes through, our plan would be illegal. My question is: Why would the government want to scrap somebody's health care plan that puts the onus of the responsibility on their own shoulders?

    Short answer? This bill is about power and NOT health care.

    The simple truth is: insurance and healthcare services are businesses; and the more you pay, the better services you get. Maybe it's not a perfect system. But i'll take our imperfect system over any government run system.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 10:28 PM
  • So, if i have cancer I can go into the emergency room and get treatment? When they refer me to a cancer specilist i can go into his emergency entrance and he will treat me? The oath you speak of is "do no harm". That does not mean "do good", or "treat those who cant pay"

    I too have a high deductable health insurance plan. My provider says that the company that I have it thru is now a "class c" company so I have to change providers. The only reason I stuck with this overpriced plan is to cover my familys preexisting conditions. Now I am being forced to change providers and they are more then happy to cover every problem that my family has never had. As for the pre-existing i now have to pay for my childrens ailments that were previously covered. What a great system.

    -- Posted by president obama on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, at 10:55 PM
  • BooJum,

    "We elected the democrats who were trying to force health care reform upon us. Do you really think we were or are calling the tune?"


    The millions who contributed less than $100 each, walked their neighborhoods and voted for him understood his platform.

    They cast an overwhelming majority of votes in the largest election turnout in U.S. history for the candidate and his platform.

    On here Neo-Cons are screaming:

    AlQaeda in Yemen -- ALLOWED TO DEVELOP AND BUILD BY DUBYAH AND THE DRAFT DODGERS. Bush/Cheney released Yemenese QitMo detainees, who have since carried out attacks killing Americans and others.

    In less than a year, a competent president has the Yemen government supported to wipe out Al Qaeda in their remote desert areas.

    GitMo itself -- With all the vocal GOP opposition, it has taken time to complete arrangements.

    Largely because halting the economic collapse; Tackling the financial meltdown;

    Successfully getting our combat troops our of Iraq;

    Battling the GOP's non-stop obstruction of Health Care Reform; Developing a coherent strategy in Afghanistan/Pakistan and getting the forces back in there to finish the job DubYah deserted to go after Sadaam;

    Rebuilding global respect for the U.S. and winning help for the Western Asian effort;

    THESE FEW LITTLE DETAILS have forced attention from most of Pres. Obama's priorities.

    Aside from that, the constant, ridiculous attacks.

    From the party which gave us:


    The Watergate burglary committed by the Republican CREEP officers and staff -- including Nixon's Attorney General (The Nation's top law-enforcement officer involved in a burglary.)

    Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew -- Prison for corruption'

    Reagan's PURITY -- His "Kitchen Cabinet" of Billionaires and Millionaires only, buying the Santa Barbara Ranch for Ronnie and Nancy, plus buying the San Clemente Estate for Ronnie and Nancy, plus his multi-million Japan speaking tour immediately after leaving office.


    BROTHER JEB -- Forced to sign a consent order, paid a large fine and required to never be involved in Florida Real Estate after being charged with fraud. So he became governor, so he could steal an election for DubYah. (With the Bush name and Poppa's help, Jeb avoided prison.)

    BROTHER NEIL -- Forced to sign a consent order to never be involved in any federally regulated financial operation, after being largely responsible for the Silverado S&L collapse in Denver, which cost US about $2-Million, with stockholders losing everything. (With the Bush name and Poppa's help, Neil avoided prison.)

    DUBYAH -- Failed with his Arbusto Oil Co., allowed to merge into Harkins Petroleumn, as a director was named to help plan the collapse of Harkins. Next day illegally sold all his Harkins stock. Somehow did not go to prison. (With the Bush name and Poppa's help, DubYah avoided prison.)

    Invested $600,000 int o the TEXAS RANGERS MBL team, named president. Negotiated deal for the City of Arlington to build and donate a $200-Million stadium. Then sold his stock for $15-Million.

    In the meantime, "Crime charges" are leveled against Democrats, with nothing to back them, except Monica Lewinsky. (That wasn't criminal, just incredibly misguided.)

    On yes, BooJum -- One last time - my sources -- The WALL STREET JOURNAL, BARRONS, THE ECONOMIST, FORBES, BUSINESS WEEK, NEWS WEEK, CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, FEDERAL REGISTER, CSPAN, on-line newspapers, magazines, radio, and TV from throughout the U.S., Canada, Europe, South America and Asia.

    I even check in on Limburger, Beck, Hannity, Coulter and Fox.

    Email your GOP congressman, ask for the list of GOP and Democratic amendments to the various House and Senate committee versions of the Health Care Reform bill.

    You are able to blog on here, so you are on the Inernet AND can use a computer.

    Just GOOGLE -- "Health Care Reform -- GOP amendments." It isn't difficult and really hardly hurts at all, researching for FACTS.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, at 3:41 AM
  • Be nice now hank I asked a simple question. Flame the person asking a question, line one from the Liberal play book.

    I searched using the quote above, and did get better hits than before and I will take some time to go back and read some of them to examine the truth of your comments.

    I still have to wonder, what did it matter how many ammendments the repulicans offered, if they really did. With a supermajority the dems ignored them all and tried to proceed with their own plan...which they could not get passed. Perhaps the plan was soooo bad that the infighting between the dems was just too much to reach a agreement. Pelosi told the country they didn't have enough votes to support the senate version. This speaks volumns about how bad this Health Care Reform bill really is.

    later Hank

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, at 6:25 AM
  • No Hank I didn't vote for Obama, my statement was more of a rethorical comment.

    "Rebuilding global respect for the U.S. and winning help for the Western Asian effort;"

    Do you really belive the world respects us now?

    Other Countries mock the supposed achievements of Obama. The Dalai Lama even said Obama's Nobel prize was too soon.

    Just this week Obama told us " i spent all my time listening to technocrats instead of the people" and wasn't aware of the anger about health care. This just make him look stupid.

    Do you think this get him more or less respect around the world? Do you think growing unemployment after a massive stimulas bill gets Obama more or less respect around the world?

    Do you think his approach to Iran has resulted in more or less respect around the world?

    I think the other leaders around the world, when in the privacy of their own palaces, laugh and snicker about the rookie trying to tell them how to run the world. Maybe Obama needs to abandon his community organizer handbook and start to listen to the people of the United States and start working for US.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, at 7:15 AM
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    bigdawg - First of all, yes, you can get a lot of good cancer fighting treatment in an emergency room. Because cancer is a chronic disease, an ER is not the preferable setting for a sustained battle, but there is a lot that can be done initially. Initial detection and treatment of cancer and other chronic diseases in ER's is actually commonplace.

    The Hippocratic Oath is more than "I won't do harm". The first part of the oath is a commitment to be competent and maintain competency and updated training. In the same section is the oath to treat a patient who seeks treatment. The "do no harm" comes later. You REALLY could've Googled the Hippocratic Oath to check it out before getting your shorts in a bunch you know.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, at 11:03 AM
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    "After reading your many posts, I realize that you have a special perspective...you have seen us in righteous fury. Tell me, Hank, how good did it feel to stand behind us when our American life still meant something?"

    Praytell Carl - what righteous fury could you be talking about? And are you implying that our American life means nothing now?

    As far as the last time our country faced peril...I would say we sidestepped a manure landmine of epic proportions when the President came out and said that we should hold off on the current healthcare bill.

    As far as lobbing kudos to Hank goes...I appreciate his service to this country...that aside, it is obvious that he is a partisan hack; and I have witnessed NOTHING that would indicate that Hank has contributed one ounce of effort to hold this country together in any regard. He's probably going to respond to this statement with some feigned Barney Frank style outrage and a lengthy diatribe about namecalling, when he should really be looking in the mirror as he does.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, at 11:12 AM
  • Gi sorry I left key words out, should have typed in Health Care reform, the ultimate goal of the dems.

    But thinking about your comment, what have the dems passed... that has benefitted the country.

    Stimulas bill? did it create more jobs? No.

    GM bailout? has it worked? not very well

    Banks. Bail them out, get paid back, now Obama proposes new punitive rules to control these private companies.

    Then this week, one election and the Dems reverse course. The next few weeks will be interesting.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Jan 24, 2010, at 4:33 PM
  • http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100542251

    This story among a sampling of other google hits about the question.. is the stimulus working?..

    reveals that the jury is still out, just as many con vs pro.

    Borrowed money? Do you think the tax payer is going to be paid back? This is the only source of Obama's money.

    -- Posted by boojum666 on Sun, Jan 24, 2010, at 6:00 PM

    The Republican offered amendments remain in the Senate and House bills.

    "Banks. Bail them out, get paid back, now Obama proposes new punitive rules to control these private companies." -- BooJum

    Needed changes to the obscene BANKERS BONUSES are a major portion of the President's proposals.

    Another factor, curtailing the size of the largest banks. Get this country and the world out of the situation where any business -- bank or manufacturer or insuror -- IS TOO BIG TO FAIL.

    As a proven conservative businessman, the idea of any executive being rewarded $54-Million for leading the business into bankruptcy--is obscene!

    For the entire Merril-Lynch management crew to destroy the company and all owner/stockholder equity -- and then award themselves more than a BILLION DOLLARS in total bonuses, before B of A buys M & L with taxpayer money -- IS OBSCENE!!

    Anytime a management compensation package rewards failure, a destroyed company, total wipeout of owners' equity -- IT IS WRONG-HEADED, STUPID AND OBSCENE!!!

    Rewarding management for short-term profits and increases is suicidal.

    Every 4-H and FFA member knows those facts.


    Heavy use of Predators, primarily using "crew training budgets" along the Mexican border has stopped a large majority of the illegal crossing.

    With the Predators, Border Patrol KNOWS where groups are gathering during the day to attempt night crossings. With the Predators, BP knows when the groups start, and are able to watch on computer screens the route they are taking. If they drop back packs of drugs, BP knows where.

    Blockades are set up, the illegals are nabbed, the packs are picked up.

    THE OTHER DIFFERENCE -- You haven't seen the President strutting along the border in a jet jock's pressure suit under a 'MISSION ACCOMPLISHED' banner.


    "GM bailout? has it worked? not very well"

    Really, GM just announced a planned plant closing has been cancelled. Business is rebuilding.

    Ford is adding workers, selling more cars.

    Chrysler still exists under new ownership.

    Would it have been better to throw hundreds of thousands of workers out of jobs?


    "Dems reverse course."

    Since when. Obama campaigned on rebuilding the economy, creating more jobs.


    A destroyed economy, total banking industry collapse, the Auto Industry in the tank, the worst global economic crisis in 60 years, and two mis-managed wars, and Health Care costs threatening to bankrupt the economy still, with at least 30% of the people uninsured or severely underinsured.

    Those items alone filled Pres. Obama's plate for 2009. And he has managed all successfully.

    DubYah was overseeing 700,000 jobs lost monthly the last several months of his time.

    That loss is down to less than 100,000 jobs being lost monthly in mid-winter.

    The JOBS TASK FORCE(S) have been working all along, developing workable solutions.

    Congress and the administration will have a coherent program to follow.

    The President will not need a jet jock's pressure suit.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, at 8:45 AM
  • The title of this blog is "I want to be optimistic".

    Dont get your hopes up sam, the republicans controlled the two branches for 6 yrs. and they did not do anything with it. So when they take over someday nothing will have changed.

    -- Posted by president obama on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, at 12:15 PM
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    "DubYah was overseeing 700,000 jobs lost monthly the last several months of his time. That loss is down to less than 100,000 jobs being lost monthly in mid-winter."

    At best you are severely mistaken, at worst you are intentionally lying to make Obamas case. I choose the latter.

    According to BLS statistics - The Bush administration had an unemployment HIGH of 5.5%, and a low of 3.3% which was held for a few years in succession. 3.3% is a statistical flatline. The average for the Bush presidency was around 4.4% The Obama administration enjoys a 9.65% unemployment rate for the year 2009; a year in which the Obama administration OWNS a tripling of the national deficit (undeniable, as Obamas spending supports this figure).

    GM and Chrysler aren't projected to actually show a profit until 5 years from now. But you clap them on the back for still existing? Somehow the sweetheart deal between government and big labor gives Hank warm fuzzies. But big banking is another story.

    Hank, how exactly will your life be better by executive bonuses being canceled or redirected into Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie slush fund? Short answer: it won't be. However, you have such hatred for financial institutions that you cannot dowse the truth that the financial institutions were coerced by the government to create the same situation you now lament. The sub-prime mortgage debacle was a dem party trojan horse steered by Dodd and Frank for the purpose of stirring up public anger and disgust for the financial industry, precisely to allow the dems to seize, via regulation, control over these same institutions.

    Funny how you get so twisted over a BILLION or a few MILLION in bonuses that do NOT affect your life; but give Obama and company a pass over TRILLIONS wasted that DOES have an affect on your life.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, at 12:28 PM
  • I guess the banking bonus thing irritates me becuause they have done a poor job and they get millions in return. So Dodd and Frank are the sole reason the banks failed? Wow, call the news outlets, they should be doing a story on that. Im amazed that one of the bankers who got his 50 million bounus check dosent come right out and say that. "The bank I am in charge of failed because of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. I had nothing to do with it."

    -- Posted by president obama on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, at 12:44 PM
  • Hank

    Ford didn't participate in the tax payer bailout.

    Chrysler has been bought by Fiat

    GM should have been allowed to be broken up and sold to a company or companies that could design sell cars peoples want to buy.

    GM did throw thousand out of work when they closed dealers all over the U.S.

    Thanks for supporting the predator program along the US Mexican border... Bush started it in 2005.


    -- Posted by boojum666 on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, at 9:36 PM
  • BooJum --

    Bush's $3-BILLION border fence did not include Predators. It included a sweetheart contract with Boeing, with $1-Billion already spent and nothing achieved in creating electronic/photo towers along the entire 2,000-Plus miles.

    Incredibly, Boeing never talked to a single Border Patrol official or agent before designing, building and installing that $1-BILLION [Retail Plus]in equipment. They simply tried to use "off the shelf" hardware which failed miserably in those harsh conditions, with a silly system design.

    Boeing may be close to producing a workable system now with more than half the money gone, and less than 50-Miles of system in place.

    The Predators have come on from training units since Jan. 2010.

    The entire Rio Grande valley, the New Mexico border, Agua Prieta, Naco, Sonoita and Rain Valley, and Nogales have heavy surveillance, as does the Papago Reservation area.

    The entire Yuma region and the heavy traffic areas, from San Luis de Colorado across to Mexicalli, to the top of the Baja coastal mountains at Tecate and down to Tijuana are covered.

    Of course, the BP officers who are working in the field are probably a bunch of Communists and we are supposed to believe you, while ignoring them.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Tue, Jan 26, 2010, at 7:40 AM
  • SAM,

    How many group health, hospital and medical policies have you negotiated in your life behind the wheel?

    How many county commission/supervisor sessions have you attended and presented before?

    How many election campaigns have you managed?

    How many university campuses have you visited for any reason but delivering shipments?

    How many sessions of the U.S. Senate and House have you observed?

    How many U.S. cabinet officers, Under Secretary or above, have you debated programs with?

    How many pieces of legislation have you proposed and presented at local, state and national levels to committees and members?

    How many hours have you spent in DuPont corporate headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware and in the Empire State Building in New York?

    How many payrolls have you met?

    How many jobs have you created?

    How many distressed and bankrupt businesses have you reorganized, from sweeping floors, to rebuilding production plants and reorganizing staffs and facilities, to successful operations creating jobs?

    How many former employees have you helped build their own businesses and personal wealth?

    How many young people have you helped and guided to better vocational or academic educations?

    How many truck drivers have you hired to develop softward programming for Google or Yahoo or IBM or HP?

    How many of your children own high-tech companies in Silicon Valley?

    How many of your immediate family members are practicing privage physicians?

    Sam, your credentials are;

    A Socialistic Federal CDL and a lifetime making your living on the Socialist public highway, road and street systems of America, Socialist public education to a level where you developed serious writing talent -- AND a completely closed mind, impervious to facts and reality.

    Yet, you have the infernal gall to slander me in print, because you hate anyone who does not recognize the divine infallibility of Sam's diatribes.


    You claim superior knowledge of all Health Care.

    Strange, I have a daughter-in-law in private practice as an MD with 14 years experience, a brother-in-law who is Chief of Staff at a major Chicago hospital and faculty at a major medical school, a nephew who is chief radiology tech at the largest teaching hospital in a 1500-mile stretch of the Southwest, three women in the immediate family are RNs and I have helped organize rural community finances to send three young people through medical school. (Two of the three are the only doctors in their communities today. The third is in retirement from sheer exhaustion.]

    Sam, with your gross ignorance, you dare call me a wacko.

    Have YOU done anything of note with your life, have you contributed anything but smog, burned rubber and BS?

    With all your financial and philosophical brilliance -- How many millions were you able to donate this month to Haiti?

    How many new homes do you propose to build in Haiti?

    How many orphanages can you underwrite in Haiti or in the U.S?

    Oh I forgot, you are disciple of Rush and Patterson -- All Haitians should die, they sold out to the Devil.

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Tue, Jan 26, 2010, at 8:22 AM
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    reformed - when I originally posted the unemployment figures I had several tabs open and posted numbers for a subset of the population, as opposed to the population as a whole. In other words, I erred on the first set of numbers I posted. Also, I was posting an average of each year and not any specific month. Potato-Potahtoe perhaps...but just wanted to make that known.

    That being said, I was more careful this time to close the other tabs :) before I posted, and this is what I found. Bush had a statistical 4.0% average of unemployment in 2001 (3.96%) and in 2008 had a 5.8% average for the year. Obama had an unemployment average of 9.6% with the trending still climbing for the end of 2009. That would translate to be a 62% increase in a 12 month period.

    The job growth that is being touted right now is primarily found in the government sector. This can be verified by looking at the sections comprising the GDP. You can see that investments and private sector growth were flat or trending downward, while government growth was increasing. This is not healthy economic growth, regardless of its appearance to be so; as government doesn't produce anything but more government. And we all know that ultimately it comes out of our own pockets. This growth is unsustainable and will not be looked at favorably by the voting public.

    I would contend that judging by the recent Mass. election, that we are already seeing a foretaste of the backlash to come. Just sayin.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Tue, Jan 26, 2010, at 11:17 PM
  • Hank,

    As I have said in a previous post, I have met many people who have went out and actually did the things you claim you have, and almost none have come out bitter with life as you have. Almost all were thankful for the experience and the opportunity. There was one who came out bitter, a failure, who tried to be a success doing work she hated. It was never her fault she failed, it was the bankers, the government, taxes, customers, service people, and the list goes on. In the end she finally admitted it was her.

    But you Hank, bring on a new level of bitterness. I say to myself, a man who has accomplished as much as you could not possibly be bitter. What I see is jealousy. More and more I see a picture of a man, a reclusive bachelor, who watched the world pass him by. You read all the right books, read all the right magazines, watched all the right news shows, and everyone passed you by in life.

    Everyone around you are happy with their lives, even the ones who are poor. Why?

    Have you done all the things you claim Sam hasn't? Sam seems to do well with the means he is given.

    -- Posted by Hugh Jassle on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 9:04 AM
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    Chunky Peanut Butter-

    That is one of the most rediculous things I have read. "A new level of bitterness?" It sounds to me like he has a different opinion of the ethical decisions that have been made politically over the years. If anything, he has a new level of attention span compared to you and some of the others on here. If I was to apply your flimsy psychoanalytic assault to you or Sam it could be far uglier.

    It's bad that Sam, with all of his eloquence, resorts to calling Hank a wacko, but it is pitiful of you to resort to more hateful talk obviously sprung from your hope of hurting someone on some deep level. So, are you trying to change Hank's perspectives by making him sad?

    I don't think anyone's perspectives and opinions will change, as far as their political beliefs, but it is definitely obvious by comparing Hank's post and yours who pays attention to actual events and who denies them.

    I can only imagine the level of pure hatred in your tiny little heart, hatred that grows and grows as the tired old system of lies gets laid out over a timeline. A tired old system that you defend, by telling someone you don't agree with that they are lonely and life passed them by.

    This blog has shown who the true "wackos" are, and as history passes you by that "wacko" image becomes sharper and more defined.

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 11:21 AM
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    GI - Okay...22 companies in the private sector are hiring.

    Now...what exact role did Obama play in promoting that job growth?

    (cricket chirping)

    Thought so.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 11:46 AM
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    You are right, and I can appreciate the completely different perspectives and the hypocracies that follow, that's why I like this blog. It's an interesting little room. Ol' Hank is proof of the fact that it doesn't matter how many facts you mention to some of these folks if they think you are a communist.

    A communist! Is the Red Scare cool again? Is McCarthyism going to squash the progressive threat?

    Is life passing us by?

    -- Posted by Jaded American on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 12:49 PM
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    Reformed - okay...you don't like averages. Then just live with the hard numbers. Month by month; Obama's unemployment numbers eclipse the unemployment numbers of the Bush administration at any given point in the last eight years. I don't know why you want to argue about it...my initial point is that we're going in the wrong direction...and it's my point now. GI keeps talking about how those numbers are going to rebound...based on some CNN (milk squirting from the nose) news that the country is undergoing a 87,750 job hiring spree. Sorry - the BLS numbers don't support his report of a rebound; and neither do any other reports coming from government agencies. An 87,750 job gain against a projected 600,000 job loss for January 2010, doesn't get my toes tingling about economic turnaround.

    I can be optimistic from here to the moon...and to be honest I am...but it won't change Obama's performance or his numbers; which are both pointing to less than favorable. My optimism, however, does not spring from what the President and his administration are doing...my optimism springs from the knowledge that I still live in a country where I can take opportunity and run with it. Either into failure or success, but either way I have that freedom. My hope is that my children, and the children of this nation; are allowed to have, not only the same opportunities that I have enjoyed; but even better opportunities still. That will not happen with a curtain of choking taxes and regulations separating them from enterprising liberties.

    What we need right now is not only economic growth, but also a freeze on government spending. Economic growth doesn't come from money being taken from the private sector (taxes) and being spent on the government sector (stimulus). Those companies that are hiring (yes I checked it out, GI) didn't receive stimulus. Neither are they the recipient of any sort of crumb from any program initiated by the Obama administration. On the other side of the coin, the spending glut undertaken by this administration is simply gargantuan and unrealistic. There is no way a country can spend itself into prosperity.

    Obama cannot take the credit for private sector growth when he has no policy in place to promote growth in the private sector. Obama said himself on July 11th in Bloomberg that the stimulus was working the way it was intended...and we've had higher losses in the job market SINCE then. Hmmm.

    Here's an interesting question: Dems and lib pundits whined for the last two to three years of the Bush administration that we were in the worst economy since the great depression.....how do they feel about it now that Obama has driven it under the pavement? Where could the outcry possibly be?

    -- Posted by Mickel on Wed, Jan 27, 2010, at 10:07 PM
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    GI - Is it necessary to call me a liar because you don't agree with me? I'm aware you believe that as a conservative; I'm a moron, a liar, a bigot, a homophobe, an adulterer, a baby-burner and all other sorts of vile filth. However, I can assure you that I am none of those things. And quite frankly I've had it with your talking a blue streak when I'm quite sure I don't deserve it. You've asked for civil discourse...practice it.

    The bailouts were loans which were paid back. TARP was supposed to be a shot in the arm for companies and institutions involved in handling the American people's assets. The stimulus was supposed to be about creating jobs - but looking at the steady losses over the course of the last year...that hasn't happened. And, the bailout is going to be increased by another 85 billion to further fund unemployment.

    Big corporations hiring anywhere from 500 to 1000 people each at this stage of the game is great news...however, small business provides the lions share of the jobs in this country...and small business hiring isn't rebounding and most likely won't until the dust settles on both the healthcare and cap and trade bills. The Obama plan of giving a $3,000 tax credit for hiring is too anemic to incentivise. Especially considering what it might cost to insure that employee in alignment with stipulations of the current bill in congress.

    One of the most basic indicators of economic recovery is growth in new home sales...as of this date we are witnessing an over 40 year low in new home sales.

    By the way, your WSJ article was making a hopeful prediction for 3.3% growth in the economy for the third quarter. The article was from last September. According to the Commerce Department, that number is actually 2.2%; and according to the GDP that was actualized in the government sector, not the private sector. Again...this is not a POSITIVE indicator. The GDP numbers are derived from *Consumption by the public, *Investment by business, and *Government spending. Consumption and Investment are down. Government spending is not, hence an artificially inflated figure.

    The article from the Economist wasn't flattering at all. This article is rife with supposition and hopeful reporting, hardly a concrete analysis. In fact, the numbers in this article are in disagreement with the numbers given by CNN about the number of American people opposed to healthcare. CNN shows 61% opposed versus the Economist poll of just over 50%. CNN also shows a higher disapproval number than what is reported here. However, there is about a week inbetween the numbers...so...

    You're right about Obama deserving the credit for all of this...I'll give you that.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Thu, Jan 28, 2010, at 10:56 PM
  • Sam, Jose and Company,

    Some challenged mentality on here keeps calling me a bitter old man, angry with the world.

    I'm not angry with the world, just considerably disgusted with uber-conservatives on this Gazette blog who insist upon inventing "facts" and launching bigoted attacks on the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and the informed among us who realize he is achieving a great deal in a difficult situation.

    Some genius on here claims Bush started using Predators along the border in 2005.

    The PREDATOR was not available in 2005.

    The Border Patrol deployed a few hand-launched mini-drones to overfly the border during daytime.

    Their cameras were able to identify groups waiting to cross the line after dark in limited five mile ranges.

    Four or five mini-drones scoping out less than 30 miles of a 2500 mile border did not get the job done.

    The high flying Predators on the other hand stay up 30 hours non-stop, each sending video of every foot of the border along a 400 mile stretch, every 2.5 hours, then returning along the same section to show movement.

    They remain airborne to guide ground units to intercept human and drug smugglers, even detecting when drug mules drop their packs and run. Then the Predator camera directs officers to the piles of drug packs.

    This technology, using primarily Defense Training Budgets, is working.

    It was available by late 2006, through 2008 -- but it required an incompetent Democrat to listen to the professionals and utilized Predator training units from Hood, Bliss, Huachuca and Yuma Marine Test to provide real value.

    Now Joe and Chunky, maybe you can tell me how in your great urge for positive activity, arising from your total lack of anger -- How many families did you move closer to home ownership today?

    I took an hour from a normal busy day and put two businessmen together, who can arrange home ownership for sixty families in the next 18 months.

    Just consider it my ANGRY response to your benevolent BS.

    It might be more beneficial to Red Willow County, Ak-Sar-Ben and the U.S.A. -- if you guys made an honest effort to improve things, rather than criticize those of us who insist it is possible to improve the nation and our communities.

    Remember the 4-H Pledge,"TO MAKE THE BEST BETTER."

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Fri, Feb 5, 2010, at 6:21 PM
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    Been away awhile - haven't had time to sit and type.

    GI - "I do not think you are liar. I think you are misguided by liars." Um....thanks, I think??!!??

    I'm getting my information out of government sources, so I guess you could very well be accurate on THAT one!! (unfortunately, but true...I think it IS a bit comical)

    Stimulus information - Recovery.gov

    Labor information - BLS (bureau of labor and statistics)

    Gross Domestic Product - Bureau of Economic Analysis

    Home Sales - a myriad of realtor databases - NOT government, but easy to see comparisons and contrasts.

    I'm not getting my information from FOX News or from the media in general, but I'm going right to the sources.

    -- Posted by Mickel on Sun, Feb 7, 2010, at 3:40 PM
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