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The Taxman Cometh

Posted Monday, January 18, 2010, at 1:41 AM

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Sooner than you think the Obama Administration will begin tax increases on every industry that the libs/progressives consider as enemies. They will go after big oil, big timber, big fishing, big tobacco, big banking, big energy, big manufacturing, (unless it is union run) big health care, big insurance, and so forth.

We also know that the Obamunists will keep up their all out war against small business owners and the self-employed. The Obamunists strive to get people to stop thinking they can take care of themselves.

I'd like to suggest some revenue sources for the Obamunists. There are other revenue sources the libs/progressives never consider, and it's all about fairness, right?

Let's start with a tax on big Legal, the Johnny Cochran "No Tort Reform" tax. Let's go after those windfall profits from big jury trial settlements. Let's take at least eighty or ninety percent, right off the top. Give that money to the poor. Come on lawyers dawgs, it is time to pony up for the socialism you help put into power.

Next it is time to look at big Media, the Chris Matthews Media Whore tax. Time for the lapdog, sycophantic media, that has actually become State run media, to pay up. Let's tax these bleeding hearts, inside the media, that promote government coming after every dime you and I have. Tell them the money is to pay for children's health care, of course.

Next, we need to go after big Abortion. Along with the unions and lawyers, big Abortion has thrived due to the efforts of liberals and progressives. Baby killing has become big business for big bucks, and Planned Parenthood should be charged extra taxes to pay for, let's say...adoption instead of murder. We can call it the Kathleen Sibelius, "I don't see nothin'" tax.

Let's not forget our friends in the Environmental movement. These folks have sucked billions, and even trillions of tax dollars, in search of their marvelous green fantasies. We need the Algore Tree Hugger Tax. Algore will soon have earnings equal to a billion dollars, as he flies around the world telling people not to travel. Green Weenies like Algore need to pay the Tree Hugger Tax to help defray the costs of higher energy bills on the way from the Obamunists.

Then there are generous revenue sources available when we take a look at big Porn. Another one of these "protected" industries the libs/progressives love so much. Big Porn makes more money each year than ABC, CBS, and NBC combined. We need the Paris Hilton Porn Star Tax, to pay for the years of therapy and other social ills that follows the folks that engage in pornography. Perhaps some of this porn tax could be used to regulate porn on the Internet so that young kids aren't watching filth while mommy and daddy work to pay higher taxes.

We can not forget big Education. Oh my, the fat cats living like royalty in the nations universities, are ready for more taxation. They are begging for it, as they promote Socialism and Communism. These Marxists professors(that Obama loved to hang with in college), need to experience, first hand, the Marxism they preach. Take most of their income, let them live in the dorms, the very cheapest dorms, and ride bicycles.

And we haven't even begun to talk about going after the Unions. Holy cow! This is one group that the Obamunists have paid off for votes over and over again. They have received windfalls payoffs and bribes, so we need the Jimmy Hoffa Union Thug Tax, to rake in some income from the stimulus windfalls they have received.

What about big Hollywood? Oh yeah, the next time Jim Carrey gets twenty million for a flick, the George Looney Clooney Hollywierd Tax kicks in, and Uncle Sam should take about 19.5 of that twenty million. C'mon Jim, you're the one that talks about businessman earning too much money. Get most of the cash that Danny Glover or Sean Penn make. They love Cuba so much, let them live there, and they won't need much money.

Then there are the taxes that we can glean from the voter fraud groups, like ACORN. We need the ACORN Community Organizer Tax, to take huge parts of the income received from real estate fraud and money laundering.

Tax ACORN extra for each dead Democrat that votes, or for each Black Panther that patrols a polling station.

Even with all this, the Obamunists will still need more money. I am sure we can come up with a special tax for the AARP, or sports millionaires, or gay groups.

And let us not forget, a tax for the big Government Worker. Call it the Barack Obama Never Had A Real Job Tax. Time to take some of the massive pay increases that government workers have enjoyed while the rest of the economy tanks.

Some truth for you, if you can handle it: Liberals and progressives do not hate money. On the contrary, they love money. They only hate money when YOU have it.


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These are all very progressive ideas Sam, I like it. I am not sure one could get away with taxing gays as you suggest, unless you also wanted to have a homophobia tax as well (which of course you will pay out yer you know what for).

We should also get after right wing mouth pieces with a Public Dishonesty/Divisiveness Tax. Anyone who deteriorates the country's ability to debate an issue with intentionally divisive language or outright lies--Beck, Rush, Hannity, Savage, etc.--would surrender their paychecks minus a nominal portion to live on. If they really think they are doing great things for America, then that should be enough.

As an offshoot to that we will also need a Sensational Blogger Tax. Under this tax, there would be an expectation that if a person is going to be an overly emotional and irrational screwball, and post screed after screed of dumb lies and embarrassing half-truths, that they would need to pay a heavy fee.

Lets start taxing the hell out of truckers who overload their rigs and ruin our roads, at the expense of the taxpayer as well. In addition, we will legalize the activities of lot-lizards and meth/cocaine use amongst truck drivers, but these services will of course be VERY heavily taxed.

For far too long churches have been ducking their tax responsibilities hiding behind a spooky man in the sky that nobody can prove is really there. These people are freeloaders and they aren't pulling their weight. From now on there will be a God Tax, if you want your right to worship protected by our government, you damn well better be willing to pay for it.

This is fun! Sam ole boy, I think we can work together after all.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 11:02 AM

Exactly. Start by taxing the church and you may end up with a surplus that boggles the mind. We could buy China.

And by the way, the "State Run Media" just hired Sarah Palin as a talking head, so I still wonder what the Beck/Rush fans are in a tizzy about...

-- Posted by Jaded American on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 11:35 AM

Be sure to add the screaming preachers and such to your list to collect your "Public Dishonesty/Divisiveness Tax" from. You know the ones, "Goddamn America" "Kill all the White People", etc. Doesn't get a lot more divisive, do it?

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 12:06 PM

ANY church or religious organization will be taxed on a graduated scale based on church membership. This includes preachers who would have America blessed or damned, as both concepts are equally silly.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 12:08 PM

you do seem to be an expert on "silly", guill.

if it weren't for the trucking industry, our roads would be in far worse shape. roads have been improved to accomodate the big trucks. they have strict regulations that keep weight down and safety up.

we have the best roads in the world here in the usa. thanks.

-- Posted by tiney56 on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 12:15 PM

Oh, shoot! Now we will get a dissertation from Iggus on the road system! Along with his many talents, I am sure he is an expert civil engineer!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 12:46 PM

Hmm, you seem to be in the minority opinion about big rigs and their impact on interstates and highways.

And actually, we have some of the worst roads in the world; the developed world anyway. The super highways all over Europe are night and day better than the roads here. I have driven coast to coast several times in the US, and I have also driven all over Europe. There is a pretty clear reason why the roads there are better..In Europe leaders actually spend money on infrastructure, and in most places they do not allow trucks as big as the ones we have here on their roads. And because the major highways are not as long, they are much easier to maintain. Plus, most countries in Europe do not have to deal with differing state budgets for road repair, as most of the repair monies are allocated by federal governments. So the phenomenon of driving up US 77 from Topeka to Lincoln and the road going from bad to worse at the Kansas/Nebraska border, is something you would not typically run into in Europe.

That's just how it is, Tiney. The worst major highway I have been on in Spain is as good or better than any road I have been on here.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 12:53 PM

No Joe, but I am an experienced traveler.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 12:54 PM

I warned you! A road expert extraordinaire!

Add Iggus to the "Know-it-all Tax" roll!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 1:03 PM

Iggy - the Interstate Highway System was designed for trucking. Your Marxists professors failed to tell you this during your periods of leftist religious indoctrination.

Truckers pay allot of taxes, taxes out the wazzoooo, but that is not the point. We all are taxed too damn much Guill. C'mon already. In most families, one spouse is working for the government.

The US Government is: Corrupt, abusive, run by thieves and liars, out of control, way to big, full of fraud and waste, complicated, full of fat cats and manipulators, and now supported by voter fraud and deceptions.

If every taxpayer had to write checks for their tax bill like the self employed, this government would fall tomorrow, and FDR knew that. That is why he decided, like the good little Socialist that he was, to steal the peoples money before they even see it. The whole tax refund system is a joke.

Now we come to a point where the Obamunists have wasted a generation of money already, and there are more politics payoffs and bribes to be made, as well as the debacle of health care and cap and tax on the horizon.

You libs/progressives crack me up. If you want to pay more in taxes, then who the hell is stopping you?!?! Pay more! Give more! If you bleeding hearts actaully cared for the folks, you would give of your own money. But it is not about helping people, is it Iggy? It's about power and control and hate. That is your modern day progressive. Power, control and hate.

Point in fact. Black folks have overwhelmingly supported Democrat politicians for decades now. And yet, if you listen to the Guillermo's of the world, we are still a racist evil country. If you listen to the Guillermo's, white folks are just lurking out there, ready to be bigots in an instant. Freaking crazy!

Government is out of control, more specifically, the left in America is out of control. They are spoiled thoughtless children who have seized power they did not earn, and now run amok in immature delusions.

God help us.

-- Posted by sameldridge on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 1:29 PM

Expertise is different from experience. I am no expert Joe, but I have driven in both Europe and America quite a bit, so I am experienced. But I still like your tax idea. Sam is going to get worked over.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 1:41 PM

And you, sir, will be operating at a huge after-tax deficit!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 1:43 PM

"Your Marxists professors failed to tell you this during your periods of leftist religious indoctrination."

Once again Sam, I went to/am attending the University of Nebraska (remember, this is the University that disinvited Bill Ayers to a talk after he gained notoriety around the elections). Certainly there are liberal professors at UNL, and certainly a paradigm through which many subject/topics are viewed are paradigms such as Marxism, feminism, existentialism, empiricism, rationalism, etc. These are mostly relegated to courses in sociology, anthropology, English lit., philosophy, etc. But in my experience at UNL, there has been only two professors who stood in front of the class and advocated for certain political/economic systems. Both were in political sciences courses, and both professors argued the tenets of capitalism and supply-side economics.

Research has shown that Democratic professors in academies are much more likely to demonstrate an openness to various ideological positions, and rather it is Republican professors who are more likely to press a political or religious ideology on a class. One possibility is that Republican professors feel outnumbered by Democratic professors, and thus make overtures to mitigate the influence of their colleagues. My experience at UNL reflects that there is some truth to this research.

"The US Government is: Corrupt, abusive, run by thieves and liars, out of control, way to big, full of fraud and waste, complicated, full of fat cats and manipulators, and now supported by voter fraud and deceptions."

Answer me honestly Sam, why is that when I criticize the government, I am suddenly Marxist, or Socialist, or a Nazi, reprobate, etc. Were I to say this I would be called an America hating communist/socialist/fascist. SO lets be clear, I respect this criticism (even though to deny there are good people in our government is not very honest of you). But if I were using your logic, here is where I would call you an anti-American, anarchist whose moral bankruptcy/hypocrisy has left him with just enough compassion to only care about himself and the thickness of his wallet.

"Point in fact. Black folks have overwhelmingly supported Democrat politicians for decades now. And yet, if you listen to the Guillermo's of the world, we are still a racist evil country. If you listen to the Guillermo's, white folks are just lurking out there, ready to be bigots in an instant. Freaking crazy!"

I don't understand your logic. Your argument is that because blacks support democrats that racism cannot exist? Point in fact...blacks support the democrats because we are the only ones who are making an effort (albeit a pretty poor effort) to ameliorate their status and opportunities in this country. The "pull yourself up by the bootstraps and stop sucking at the government tit argument issued by Cons is not very helpful. Be smarter, give a damn, be willing to act like a Christian and give a bit from your paycheck, and maybe more minorities won't think of the Cons as racist greedheads. I know it would help my perception of ya'll.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 2:13 PM

"And you, sir, will be operating at a huge after-tax deficit!"

Whereas you will be unaffected by this tax. We shall have to institute a Know-Nothing Tax so that you are carrying some of the burden as well.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 2:17 PM

GI, like all "compassionate" progressive/liberals out there supports the entitlement ideology of "helping" the poor. First you tell people they are victims, then you incrementally enslave them to your entitlements to the point where they no longer need to work and are still just poor enough to get by. Once this is accomplished you continue to tell them they are yet victims of whatever the latest hot-button issue is and then they will continue to vote for you even if it means they can only maintain the status quo of poverty. If they get control of your health care too, so much the better.

Another key tenet to this devilish system is to then not offer the people any real hope, training, or educational assistance to try and help get out of poverty. If they do something about jobs it is not in the competitive private sector. No, instead it is to create another government job for which there are no real job requirements and from which they can't be laid off or even fired. The Intelligentsia's logic is, "it is just better to keep the ignorant masses enslaved, we will decide what is best for them".

No, the progressives do not care to give a handup, but instead a handout. At least some wiser men like Bill Cosby have seen through the smokescreen of what this enslavement has done to the black community and spoken out. This is also the U.N. model which has kept millions around the world mired in poverty for decades. Once they get involved in helping with disaster relief, they then setup the perpetual handout system, which keeps people in tent camps indefinitely. Hey, at least it creates lifetime jobs for U.N. workers, right?

Yes, this is the "Great Compassion" of the liberal/statist. As long as the government's hand is in someone else's pocket they are content. As the former Prime Minister of Great Britain once said, "Socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money". Is it any wonder that the Dems also give the least to charities? They don't truly care about people in need, and if they do happen to want their guilt assuaged, they want their government to handle it for them. So, now Obama wants to remove the tax deductions for charitable giving so that he will have control over who gets ALL the money and so the recipients will be beholden to him for their very existence.

-- Posted by NebraskaMark on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 3:19 PM

I believe "ya'll" is intended in this situation to depict white people in a derogatory manner. I'm offended and I'd like to play my race card now please.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 3:21 PM

Very nice Husker. When do you get a check?

-- Posted by sameldridge on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 3:38 PM

Excellent Post Mark.

-- Posted by sameldridge on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 3:40 PM

Are you saying that blacks (in particular in the south) don't use the word "ya'll?"

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 3:52 PM

For someone who claims to be Christian, you certainly do not exhibit any of signs of charity for the poor that Jesus preached about so compassionately. He tells you that giving freely to the poor is what is expected of you. Don't you see how it is impossible for someone to take you seriously when you say you believe Jesus was humanity's lord and savior, and yet you act like total greedhead when it comes to poor people?

And in addition, your classist assessment of poor people is nothing more than a warmed of joke of a cliche. You assume that because someone is poor that they cannot think for themselves? Sorry I have much better and more optimistic view of Americans.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 3:59 PM

I think you (and your "ilk") established (in a prior blog) that one needs only to be offended in order for racism to occur. Facts, intent and common sense really have no bearing on it whatsoever. I'm offended...you're a racist. Let the bashing begin.

-- Posted by Husker23 on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 4:05 PM

I understand the problem Sam, I wonder if there is any way out of the mess. Can you see this government ever rescinding the new powers it has bestowed upon itself? Can you see this government ever giving back freedoms they have stolen and are stealing as we speak? I am already preparing for tax season.

Funny thing, when I lose money, I don't hear from the government too much. They don't seem to want to be my partners then. If I need help, they run, and point out that I am a private business. When I make money, then the government is right there, and suddenly we are partners, and I owe them more and more of money I earned.

I don't see this government restoring the Constitution, or reducing in size or scope, unless forced to do so.

-- Posted by Leo.Pold on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 4:06 PM

GI what these people are to Christianity is what Al-Qaeda is to Islam. They fancy themselves good Christians because the pain of seeing themselves as the inhuman, uncaring, selfish monsters they really are would be too much to bear.

I find a certain humor that on the the same thread where our government is demonized for attempting to help the poor, they laud the interstate highway system, which was built with poor men's labor and funded by government programs to elevate people from poverty.

Sam, if you want to tax all of the above groups, I would almost agree...lets throw churches in there though to be fair about it shall we.

Imagine the revenue that would bring our country.

God bless America

-- Posted by Carl Leibowitz on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 4:17 PM

oh, Husker...what is wrong with you?

God bless America

-- Posted by Carl Leibowitz on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 4:18 PM

Carl, oh Carl, what "war on poverty program funded the interstate system? Why, it was implemented by those damn Republicans!

From the US Department of Transportation:

The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1944 authorized designation of a 40,000-mile "National System of Interstate Highways," but did not establish a program or special funding for its construction. The first such funding came under the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1952, which authorized a token amount of $25 million a year for the Interstate System in Fiscal Years (FY) 1954 and 1955. The 1952 Act retained the standard matching ratio (Federal share: 50 percent). The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1954 authorized $175 million a year for the Interstate System (FYs 1956 and 1957), with a Federal-State matching ratio of 60-40. The increased Federal share reflected the common understanding that the Interstate System is vitally important to national goals.

As President Dwight D. Eisenhower began to promote creation of a program to build the Interstate Construction Program, the Nation's Governors made clear to him that they did not want to be forced to increase State taxes to pay the additional matching funds for the national program. Therefore, the President proposed to increase funds for the Interstate System, while boosting the Federal share to 90 percent. Under his proposal, the States would continue paying the same amount in matching funds for the Interstate System that they had been paying under the 1954 Act. When the program took shape in the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, it differed in some ways from the President's proposal, particularly with regard to the source of funding for the program, but Congress retained the Federal-State matching share of 90-10 as a reflection of the Interstate Construction Program's importance to national goals. (In the western States with large amounts of untaxed public land, the Federal share could be increased to 95 percent.)

President Eisenhower insisted that the financing mechanism for the Interstate System be "self-liquidating," so that it could not add to the national debt. The president favored a toll highway network financed by bonds, but his aides convinced him that traffic volumes would not generate enough revenue in most corridors to repay bondholders with interest. Therefore, the plan the President submitted to Congress called for establishment of a Federal Highway Corporation to issue bonds to pay for the Interstate System up-front, with the Federal excise tax on gasoline and lubricating oil (which then went to the general Treasury without a linkage to highways) was dedicated to bond retirement. Congress rejected this plan, but adopted a proposal to finance the Interstate System on a pay-as-you-go basis with revenue from highway user taxes. The revenue was credited by the Department of the Treasury to the Highway Trust Fund established under the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956.

The Interstate Construction Program, like the Federal-aid highway program of which it is a part, operates on a reimbursement basis. After FHWA authorizes a State to proceed with a project, the State pays the bills for eligible activities, and then submits bills to the FHWA, which reimburses the State for the Federal share. The FHWA makes a commitment (or "obligation") to reimburse the Federal share, but Interstate development takes several years. As a result, the FHWA obligation results in reimbursements to the State for the Federal share over several years. The 1956 Act included a provision named after Senator Harry Flood Byrd (D-VA), the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, to ensure the Highway Trust Fund would contain enough money to pay the bills. If sufficient funds are not available, the program must be reduced administratively in proportion to the imbalance.

The Highway Trust Fund financing mechanism established in the 1956 Act satisfied President Eisenhower's "self-liquidating" demand. As a result, construction of the Interstate System did not contribute to a Federal deficit.

(In 1982, the Highway Trust Fund was divided into a Highway Account and a Transit Account, which also receives some highway user tax revenue.)

Seems like this project wasn't some "porkulus" program, or handout program! Not even a "deficit spending" project! But then, the revisionists couldn't handle that, so go ahead and write your own history, Carl. Most progressives/leftist/revisionists will lap it up anyway!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 4:45 PM

That was back in the days when a "trust fund" was actually based on "trust."

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 4:55 PM

Possible dilemma for the European transportation model being applied to the U.S.:

The landmass of the U.S. is 2 ½ times the size of Western Europe.

The population of the U.S. is just 308 million while Western Europe is 400 million.

Darn those facts and figures...

-- Posted by NebraskaMark on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:00 PM

Facts and figures are worthless if they dispute the party of government's views, Mark! They were born and bred to believe that any piece of infrastructure in this country was the result of a porkulus program! They just can't believe that there once was a time that this country wasn't run by a charity program that printed it's own "funny money!"

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:06 PM

"I think you (and your "ilk") established (in a prior blog) that one needs only to be offended in order for racism to occur."

No, Husker, I think that what was established was the idea that Joe claiming natural disasters only happen to poor minorities, and there is no such thing as a white slum, is racist. If that isn't a racist argument, I don't what is.

"Carl, oh Carl, what "war on poverty program funded the interstate system? Why, it was implemented by those damn Republicans!"

Joe there was a radical shift in Republican and Democratic philosophy. You should look into it, its well documented. Beginning with Lincoln it was Republicans who were radical social progressives infringing on state's rights, admonished by Dems for being elitist northerners who advocated the freedom reducing principle of strong federal leadership, and accused of being "the party of the Godless," as one old campaing poster put it.

Since then Reps and Dems have literally switched their platforms in fine 180 degree fashion. Had you been around back then, you would most certainly have been a God fearing, minority hating, racist southern Dem. And I would have been dropping out of college to join the Republican fight to end slavery. What a funny world we live in, huh?

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:10 PM

"Possible dilemma for the European transportation model being applied to the U.S."

Mark, my apparently illiterate friend, I already conceded that one good reason the European highway system is so much better than ours is "...because the major highways are not as long, they are much easier to maintain."

Thank you for agreeing with me, and providing the facts to support my claim. Goofball.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:14 PM

There he goes again, Mark, with the name-calling! Always the fall-back position for the Iggy!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:25 PM

Once again the secular humanist's lack of any substantive knowledge about the Bible and Christianity is apparent. Their proof texting is atrocious. The Bible says to give freely, but not foolishly, and not for the sake of an ulterior motive. True Christians pay their taxes, and give to charity much more than the hypocrites do. Look it up.

Also, the faith-based aid agencies are the ones in already in place when the disasters happen, the local churches open their doors, and they the ones who help in a manner that works within the culture and not an imposed liberal western one. They help with a handup and not a handout and based on a biblical model. There is an old proverb which applies here: "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime."

-- Posted by NebraskaMark on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:26 PM

Joe -- just take it with a grain of salt...

You know that those who use profanity to excess do so because they lack a way of expressing themselves in a meaningful way. There are others who use insults to cover up for their lack of substance in a debate and to hopefully cause the person with a sense of morality to back down. Sorry, doesn't work with this guy! Especially when it comes to those who condone the extermination of unborn babies.

-- Posted by NebraskaMark on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:33 PM

I was wondering when someone was going to switch the topic to abortion. Great work Mark!

God bless America

-- Posted by Carl Leibowitz on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:36 PM

Question Joe:

Did you read the article you posted?

It clearly says that the federal highway system was brought into existence by federal mandate (socialism), paid for "with the Federal excise tax on gasoline and lubricating oil" (socialism), and maintained/regulated by state and federal authorities (socialism).

But your point is that it wasn't a deficit spending endeavor, and perhaps initially it wasn't. But it subsequently became a deficit spending item and it certainly is now, that is why state's like Nebraska have a rutted, uneven, pot marked interstate, and highways in even worse condition...there isn't enough revenue to cover the cost of maintenance.

That being said, this website http://www.publicpurpose.com/freeway1.ht... argues that the US highway/interstate systems have had a profoundly beneficial impact on the US economy because:

"The interstate highway system made less expensive land more accessible to the nation's transportation system and encouraged development.

The travel time reliability of shipment by interstate highway has made "just in time" delivery more feasible, reducing warehousing costs and adding to manufacturing efficiency.

By broadening the geographical range and options of shoppers, the interstate highway system has increased retail competition, resulting in larger selections and lower consumer prices.

By improving inter-regional access, the interstate highway system has helped to create a genuinely national domestic market with companies able to supply their products to much larger geographical areas, and less expensively."

See what wonders a system that is both capitalist and socialist in its very essence can accomplish? This what makes America great, the willingness for the Federal Government to invest our tax money in enormous undertakings that impact our businesses in positive ways, making everyone's life better just a little better. Now it is time to invest the same way along the green energy frontier, so America can lead the way and regain her once proud and seemingly unshakable place at the head of the global table.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:39 PM

I know right, Carl. As soon as these fools are hit with a winning argument they retreat to the abortion issue. The problem is, they are just as wrong there as they are anywhere else.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:42 PM

"I don't see this government restoring the Constitution, or reducing in size or scope, unless forced to do so."

What did you have in mind Leo? How do you propose forcing them?

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:43 PM

Mark, I know what the Bible says quite well. Given your misreadings of even a simple blog post, I am not sure that anyone would be wise to trust your readings of scripture.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 5:52 PM

Oh, the thrill of socialism, Iggy! There really are those of you who can't get enough of that drug, can you? The feeling of power thru entitlements is certainly your aphrodisiac! I can nearly hear the drooling from here!

The point was that Carl's statement that the interstate system was a project to put poor people to work was a complete fabrication by him, because he really thinks that the only way to get a bridge or road built is for a Senator to sell out to the feds. As a matter of fact, Eisenhower wanted the project badly because he witnessed how the Autobahn worked for the Germans. His goal was to increase the efficiency of transportation in the interest of national defense. Of course, now it is a pork barrel project, because the print-and-spenders wanted it to be! The Highway Trust Fund, the Social Security Trust Fund, and all the other "trust" funds are myths now, because there is no fund, and there certainly isn't any "trust."

As far as your opinions that our transportaion system not being as good as that enjoyed by Euros, or our health system being behind the Euros, or any other percieved shortcoming of our systems (as you see it), I am curious why you bother to put up with it? Why don't you go to the land of milk and honey and become a Eurotrash yourself? Go annoy them for a while, you need a change of scenery! Surely anyone as "intellectual" as you are would be welcomed with open arms?

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 6:05 PM

Buck and Mark - Do not expect that the libs/progressives will let a little thing like truth get in the way of their thinking.

HELLO CARL! - for once we may agree. I have always been concerned for this "tax-exempt" status for Churches. That was a big mistake. Why do you think the Christian church in America today is so impotent and basically useless?

And this is gonna sound harsh, but it is what it is, the Christian movement sold much of its soul for a lousy tax exempt status.

Christians weren't thinking when they did this. It was a lousy move.

It will not be long before the Bible will be declared hate speech, and pastors will be told the Gestapo IRS will investigate and harass them if they speak out against government sponsored or government promoted evils.

Churches should tell the IRS to take their tax exempt status and stick it!

Man alive! You want to talk about a Church that would grow in the power of God? Holy freaking cow! Now there is a Church that would stand and God could move through a Church like that.

You Pastors that want to see power in your Church, try trusting God instead of your Tax exempt status. You'll see God move once you trust Him.

But - buildings take money. Nice lawns take money. The Pastor, the Youth Minister, the Music director, the utilities, the Secretary, they all take money. So, they don't rock the boat, at least not very much.

But Carl, I enjoyed your typical lame ass respond however. Predictable and almost laughable. That is the best you can come up with? You're slipping buddy.

And Carl, you still haven't told us why God should Bless America.

-- Posted by sameldridge on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 6:22 PM

"The point was that Carl's statement that the interstate system was a project to put poor people to work was a complete fabrication by him..."

I disagree, job creation was most certainly a component of the argument for the passage of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1944.

"Of course, now it is a pork barrel project, because the print-and-spenders wanted it to be!"

I disagree again, the benefit of decent maintenance of our federal interstates and highways is beneficial to our economy, to our energy consumption, and to the environment. It is worth the investment in 1944, and it is worth the investment now.

"As far as your opinions that our transportaion system not being as good as that enjoyed by Euros, or our health system being behind the Euros..."

Both of these are facts, not opinions.

"Why don't you go to the land of milk and honey and become a Eurotrash yourself?"

Unless you would not object to being called trailer trash, or white trash, I would suggest that you do not refer to Europeans as "Eurotrash." It is grossly ethnocentric and only emboldens your established reputation for being a a racist.

And to answer your question: because America has just as many great qualities as it does subpar qualities. The wonderful ideas that started America were (and in many way still are) unprecedented, and in that way it is worth saving.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 6:23 PM

"That was a big mistake. Why do you think the Christian church in America today is so impotent and basically useless?"

Excellent Sam, I said it before, these Church people are freeloaders and they aren't pulling their weight, you me and Carl need to get out there and start working for implementation of the "God Tax."

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 6:28 PM

Somehow, the vision of you participating as a "savior" of our country is really a sickening thought! Just saying!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 6:34 PM

Gearjammer,

It ain't the taxes you worry about that need to be levied.

Taxes on corrupt corporate swindlers who get people working for free -- and then stiff them -- ala De Boers of Wisconsin and Arrow of Oklahoma; while the major banks con free money from John Q. Publico and heap multi-million dollar bonuses on the crooks in charge.

As for your list, there might have to be some adjustment.

Big oil -- After gaining a few Trillion in windfalls during the Halliburton Valhalla years with Big Oil's very own White House and VEEP, they could afford a little evening of the tax load.

Big timber -- doesn't exist in the US of A since the Poppa Bush years, when virtually the entire U.S. timber industry was drawn and quartered:

Big fishing -- Still some in Alaska, but the giveaways to Japan under Reagan, Poppa Bush, Nixon and DubYah have kind of decimated the U.S. fishing industry.

Big tobacco -- Don't look now, but their new title is "Short Smokes."

Big banking -- It would be a novelty for those fellow to pay their own way, instead of you and me having to underwrite their stupidities and executive bonuses.

Big energy -- Do we get to start with OPEC, the much merged Seven Sisters, and their profiteering during DubYah's regime. $5.50 gasoline, $6.00 diesel. How about the Thunder Basin and Powder Basin boys paying Wyoming and Montana some severance taxes for all the mineral wealth being hauled through North Platte.

Big manufacturing - Most of it gone elsewhere, established in corporate structures in countries without taxes, or defense programs or useless things like hospitals, police and fire protection, schools and minimum wage laws.

Big health care -- Will admit, having known doctors three years out of their internships or residency and complaining about being forced to work four days weekly to take home a quarter million -- while their nurses had to work two jobs to survive.

Big insurance -- do we get to include the Health Insurors $12.5-Billion in collective net profits realized in 2008?

ONE YOU SEEM TO FORGET --

HUMUNGOUS CORPORATE EXECUTIVE SALARIES BONUSES, PERKS AND STOCK OPTIONS.

Average Red Willow County family of five, privileged to loan the half-dozen biggest banks and one insuror about $400,000 at low interest.

Because these geniuses invested a few hundred million lobbying for extreme deregulation, which permitted them to issue derivaties and Sub-Prime Morthage Based Securities -- and cheat customers for that gargabe out of TENS OF TRILLIONS.

Jammer, Remind me to start being kinder and gentler with you. Since your concern is strictly for the ultra-wealthy, Billionaires and Multi-National corporations,it is obvious you are planning to be wealthier than Warren Buffet.

Only logical you would be favoring tax laws and such which will favor you in your great wealth.

Keep up the good work, I'll hope for your success in getting all these BILLIONAIRE Protection Codes into law.

What we need is more Billionaires and Lawyers.

Of course the problem has been and is, too many of those lawyers are working for the corporations and Millionaire and Billionaires helping draft new laws which will let them keep more than 99% of all their wealth.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 6:38 PM

And Carl - I do not like you comparing me to Al Queda. That is BS. Who have I murdered you chump? What innocents have I slaughtered? What women have I kept in submission? You sound like Rosie O'Donnell Carl, and that ain't good.

If any one is responsible for death in this country Carl, it is leftists like you, that turn their heads while millions of babies are killed. Now you want to add seniors to the death toll, and you compare me to Al Queda?

How can we take you seriously when you say such stupid things? You think baby murder is okay as long as you don't do it. That's nuts, and you know it.

Step up your game.

-- Posted by sameldridge on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 6:40 PM

What we need Crank, is for everybody to be dirt-poor! No one should be allowed to make a profit! Everybody should produce exactly what the government tells them to produce. Everybody shares everything. No profit, no greed, all for one, one for all!

Wait! Hasn't that already been tried?

How did that work for you Ivan?

You are right about one thing though, get rid of the lawyers!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 6:45 PM

Sam, the comparison between your way of thinking and Al-Qaeda's was not based on your actions, rather, on your ignorance and unwillingness to accept that the world moves on. Your stagnation circa the Reagan era is what is difficult to take seriously.

Secondly, I have never said a single word regarding your "death panel" nonsense and/or hastening seniors to their reward. Nor do I think it is okay to murder babies, that is a horrific accusation. I do think, however, that a woman has a right to control over every non-sentient cell cluster in her body, womb included.

One reason among many that God should continue to bless America is that even backward yokels can freely repeat the opinions that Fox News makes for them in a public forum...serves as great entertainment.

God bless America

-- Posted by Carl Leibowitz on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 7:20 PM

"Somehow, the vision of you participating as a "savior" of our country is really a sickening thought!"

Someone has to do it, and I am sure you are too preoccupied with making money and staying uneducated to make much difference.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 7:30 PM

Well Jose el grande Buck,

You just reminded me of what a terrible socialist I must be.

Cannot understand how I allowed myself to sign contracts this past week to partner in a new business headquartered about 1500 miles away.

Let me point out one little detail, Jose.

I operated my first small, three-acre business in 1937 -- banked about $35 in October from it.

By the time I was 14, when the average daily wage in farming and ranching was $1.00 per day,somehow this raving socialist had banked more than $11,000.

Totally betraying my socialist tendencies with more pure capitalistic profit in those few years, than the average top-hand could have earned full-time. Guess I learned a different brand of socialism.

The difference between Thee and Me is quite simple.

You operate from some unyielding mental position, with facts beiing totally unimportant.

I learned early on to consider all aspects of any issue, list the FACTS, organize PROS, CONS and even "indifferent" matters -- and decide based upon reality -- not what I wanted.

Fifty years ago, Senator Hubert Humphrey tried to get welfare reform introduced.

"Every person, can contribute something to his or her own support. If they seek public assistance, their ability to work in some way will be determined and they WILL WORK to RECEIVE PUBLIC AID.

If a single mother with three children needed PUBLIC HELP, and because she dropped out of school between grades Seven and Ten,to produce babies and lacking skills as a result -- She would report to job-training classes on a regular schedule -- until she could earn.

But Sen. Humphrey wanted all Welfare and other Public Aid recipients to earn their public income with work.

Guess who stopped the plan in its tracks?

Congressional Republicans, because they did not want an intelligent Work Fare program pulling anyone away from 35-40 cent per hour jobs with their conservative business friends.

Ironically, it was the partnership between those Conservatives and Liberals who objected to the very idea of "having to work to get public money," which killed the proposal.

The political opposites joined forces, each group for their own selfish interests.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 8:19 PM

Ahh, Hank, its the ole "the world needs ditch diggers too," phenomenon. The righties love telling us that racism and handouts keep the lower class down, but you make a great point: it is very desirable for the greedheads of industry to have a poorly skilled and uneducated lower class to provide them with fodder for cheap labor. That is why a strong education system is so important.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 9:30 PM

Sam, just curious, did you go to college?

-- Posted by reformedrightwinger on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 11:28 PM

Carl - really lame again. I'm going to give up on you Carl, unless you step it up.

That is your answer to the murder of fifty million, "the world moves on"? Pathetic.

You support Obamacare, and that includes the rationing of old folks to death. If you want to plead ignorance, go ahead. I already understand your ignorance. Just like with the slaughter of the unborn, you'll try to wash your hands of the efforts you made to bring about the premature death of seniors. You support liberalism, and liberalism kills.

And God should bless America because of Fox News Carl? What a lame response.

-- Posted by sameldridge on Mon, Jan 18, 2010, at 11:58 PM

Reformed Right Winger - Just curious, were you ever gay?

-- Posted by sameldridge on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 12:00 AM

Guillermo - we need no lectures from you on how to be a Christian. Thanks, but no thanks.

Your assertions that those who oppose the greed displayed by you, and Obama, are the greedy ones, is typical liberal double talk dung.

I understand your incredible generosity...with my money. I'll pass on that one too. If you want to give your money, who the hell is stopping you Guillermo? Give your money to the poor. I doubt you do, as you make demands that other people give their money, to make you feel better.

That is sick, that is libs/progressives, that is you. The over-government, the over-taxation, the raping of the Constitution, going on by the Obamunists, is foul, and plain evil.

Every time you speak on here Guillermo, you prove that liberalism is nasty, empty-headed, phony and greedy.

-- Posted by sameldridge on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 12:13 AM

Haha, oh Sam, I can almost see your red face, tears welling up as you type. You poor emotional soul, you have been by the truth hammer, and it won't stop, cry all you want.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 12:34 AM

Dang Gearjammer,

Sure am glad to see you sticking to the principles of no name-calling, derogatory comments, insults or any of that negative Equine Excrement.

Have you noticed in your devotion to conservative principles, that since federal deregulation hit the trucking industry, scams against drivers and the working stiffs in the industry have soared?

There was a time when the ICC could put a stop to management pulling an "Arrow shutdown" and shafting the drivers.

Now, drivers must go to the state labor people in the state where the company is headquartered.

Which may explain why some companies will go to extreme lengths to avoid hiring drivers from their home state or adjacent states.

If the driver has to hire a lawyer 1,000 to 2,000 miles from his home, travel back and forth for various state hearings, and endure uncompensated travel and hotel expenses, meals, etc. He is much less likely to pursue a claim for moneys owed.

That's a direct result of deregulation, getting less government for drivers.

That and other nonsense allowed in recent years is one big reason why tens of thousands of big-rigs re sitting in consignment sales lots in many states.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 8:42 AM

Sam, that is the dumbest thing you have ever typed. It was a simple question. If you want to play stupid games then do so. But believe me, I know a hell of a lot more about gay people than you obviously know about college, you cretin. I tell you what, answer my question or I'll just assume what you say about elitists warping people's minds comes from your buddies on hate radio and not from first hand experience. Because if you had gone, you would know, like Gill said earlier, that the goal of college is not indoctrination. It's having an open mind. I was never, ever told how to think by any of my professors. I even wrote a paper in college defending Reagan in a class taught by a liberal, homosexual professor. You know what grade I got, Sammy? A big, fat A. You know why? Because he said that, although he didn't agree with me, that it showed honesty. WOW, THAT LIBERAL BASTARD!!!! How dare he grade a paper on merit, not on agreeing with his point of view!!!!!

-- Posted by reformedrightwinger on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM

I must have missed something somewhere in these long threads, but where did the gay thing come from anyways, Sam?

And it's a relief to know that Husker can keep it nice and classy: in a scared, sheltered little-guy sort of way.

-- Posted by Jaded American on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 11:50 AM

I was curoious about the powers that this government has granted themselves. Exactly what are they?

-- Posted by bigdawg on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 12:33 PM

Government taxation is out of control, because government is out of control. Hubby noticed something I'd like to point out. The industries the liberals hate are industries which actually produce something of value. The industries the liberals love really don't give us much of anything but high bills to pay.

-- Posted by CandyKilroy on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 3:07 PM

"Government taxation is out of control, because government is out of control."

Even if you feel this way, it still has VERY little to do with this administration.

"The industries the liberals hate are industries which actually produce something of value. The industries the liberals love really don't give us much of anything but high bills to pay."

It will go a lot further if you actually tell us which industries you mean. Otherwise your words are empty and meaningless.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 3:44 PM

Reformed Right Winger - You're question was an arrogant question, and it deserved the answer I gave you.

Is any man or woman's opinion diminished because they may or may not have gone to college? I have experience in college alright, as I get to PAY for it!

Five children went to college in five different states, Washington, Oregon, Nebraska, Missouri, and Virginia. All report the same thing, along with their friends, that the vast majority of professors are not just liberal, but extreme left winger.

One of my son's friend wrote a letter to the Oberlin Herald a few years ago explaining that his statistics Professor at a Kansas University went into a twenty minute anti_Bush diatribe talking about the syllabus! In a Statistics class.

Your question was straight out of the Guillermo progressive elite handbook.

There is mostly indoctrination that goes on in college nowadays, and I'm sick of it. If you want to bathe in leftist religious indoctrination, go ahead, but I am tired of paying for it.

I remember the first day of my Psychology class in college, way back when. The goofy professor was more interested in making advances at the girls in class, and trashing religion. His opening statement was that religion, especially Christianity was a fraud, and if we wanted to get a decent grade in his class, we had better accept his point of view. I fought with him every day, until I was thrown out of class.

My kids all had to decide on their own how they would approach the progressive indoctrination that goes on in colleges. Some choose to ignore it and play along, some choose to fight it. I encouraged them to do what they felt best for their futures.

Don't pull any of your elite arrogance crap with me. I don't buy it. In fact, I find that more time many people spend in today's colleges, the dumber they get.

Just look at Guillermo. He is sooooooo educated, and soooooooooo smart that he thinks it is perfectly fine to rob our grandchildren to buy political power today. That takes years of brainwashing, courtesy of American Colleges, teaching a entire generation to hate their own country.

-- Posted by sameldridge on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 5:11 PM

"His opening statement was that religion, especially Christianity was a fraud, and if we wanted to get a decent grade in his class, we had better accept his point of view."

You are either a liar, or went to a terrible, terrible college. I would guess you are a liar.

-- Posted by Guillermo Inglaterra on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 5:25 PM

Don't call me an elitist you pseudopopulist trash. All I was looking for was an answer and a reason for your disdain of higher education. I had no intention of making a judgement on you either way until your sophomoric response to a simple question. What in God's name does being gay (or not)have to do with going to college? Had I made my views on homosexuality known at all? Nope. What's sad is that unlike your friends Beck and Hannity, you don't get paid to feign outrage and play the slippery slope game. At least they are reaping the economic rewards of the disingenuity.

-- Posted by reformedrightwinger on Tue, Jan 19, 2010, at 5:33 PM

For the first time in my adult life I am proud of Massachusetts!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 12:22 AM

Maybe the Prez's coat-tail is not such a good place to hitch a ride!

-- Posted by Joe Buck on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 12:24 AM

Jose,

Don't get too proud of them bean staters.

The Democratic Party bosses pushed a pure party hack with great legs as a Senate candidate.

That unknown Republican ran on his own and carried a lifetime of service. Brown went into the race with legitimate, serious credentials.

The miracle was that he managed to remind enough people in the short time allowed.

My only problem is that no matter which way the state went, they were going to get a modern, lock-step-with-party slave.

Where is Tip O'Neil when we need him?

Or Robert Taft, or Arthur Vandenberg of Michigan, or Mo and Stew Udall, or Frank Church?

We need people in D.C. who have honor, principles and ethics and understand they were elected to work together and get the job done -- not devote 100% of their time making the other guys look bad.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 12:54 AM

"And it's a relief to know that Husker can keep it nice and classy: in a scared, sheltered little-guy sort of way."

Are you anti-dwarf?

-- Posted by Husker23 on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 9:42 AM

Hahaha, good one.

-- Posted by Jaded American on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 10:16 AM

Back in 1985, I had to swing south to Yuma to service a major end user account with a sizable alluvial deposit gold mine out in the Arizona Desert.

Left Yuma at 1 a.m. Sunday with temperatures above 100. Straight up through eastern Nevada, across to Fort McDermid and into eastern Oregon, then up to Cheney, west of Spokane.

Entire trip, I didn't pass within 20 miles of a half-million total population, even with southern Nevada, the Snake and Columbia River valleys, in traveling almost 1,000 miles. Tuesday morning temps at Cheney, 17 degrees. Almost 80 degree difference.

In '85, drove from Fallon, NV to Fruita, CO, in a 24 hour run. Didn't pass within 20 miles of 20,000 people on the entire run of more than 600 miles.

Providing an INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM to move military forces rapidly coast to coast and Canada to Mexico was a major reason for Ike's.

Find one region of Europe, outside Russia where such distances without sizable population numbers is possible.

Having driven nearly every highway west of the Mississippi and a serious share of all highways in the east, I'm well aware most of the Interstate Freeway system is seriously damaged. Miami, FL to Albany, NY or Portland, ME provide major problems. as are Birminghan, Al to Saginaw, Michigan.

I-40 in northwest North Carolina as closed for weeks this winter.

Puh-leeze don't compare US-highway quality with Europe

From London via the CHUNNEL, to Berlin is less than a day, traveling with 20-miles of about 30-Million people.

Raleigh, NC to Charlotte, NC is about 3.5 hours max, traveling through cities and towns constantly and within 20 miles of millions.

Compare apples to apples, persimmons to persimmons, grapes to grapes.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, at 3:36 PM

Hey Guill,I'd put my money on a man like Sam versus a man like you any day....

-- Posted by orville on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, at 5:47 PM


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