Grey Lady Down

Posted Friday, November 6, 2009, at 8:04 PM
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  • Thank you for telling others of this sacrifice. My Grandfather gave his life on the Thresher. What really makes him a hero, along with all the other men on the ship, is that they all would have taken that journey even if they knew what was to happen. They did it for the country, The United States of America, so that we could all be safe. I absolutely agree with you that children are not being taught the events and people that made and make this country truely great. It is up to us, the citizens, to pass on our knowledge, the truth, of what this country is all about.

    -- Posted by grandaughter of a hero on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, at 9:39 AM
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    Grandaughter, I wasn't born yet when the Thresher went down. I don't think I ever heard about it in school. We are glad to know about it now, and hubby and I are proud of the sacrifices people like your grandfather made for America. Thank you Sam for reminding us.

    -- Posted by CandyKilroy on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, at 9:57 AM
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    Proud to know you. A complete roster of the crew of the Thresher is:

    www.ussthresher.com/memorian.htm

    other great links for The Thresher are:

    www.arlingtoncemetery.net/uss-thresher.htm

    www.subsim.com/ssr/thresher.html

    www.nationalgeographic.com/k19/diasater_detail2.html

    -- Posted by sameldridge on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, at 2:32 PM
  • Sam,

    Great story. And I do agree with you to a certain extent. But point blank, American students don't know about any history, negative or positive. History isn't even on standardized testing.

    -- Posted by mccookreader on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, at 2:58 PM
  • Sam,

    One huge problem.

    Conservatively-oriented voters refuse to approve costs for 320 day school years, longer school days with just "one more class" for needed subjects.

    With today's math and science demands, short school days and too-short school years -- There aren't enough high school hours for complete history, English, four years of a foreign language, four years of math beyond basic algebra.

    If every S.W. Nebraska student graduated with full grounding in math and science, an UNDERSTANDING of history [Not just rote memory recall of dates, places and one or two names], and for those planning strong two-year vocational courses, business management and accounting.

    Every student today needs two years of computer keyboard typing and computer operation.

    That's at least three hours weekly. Instead of one year of U.S. history and one year of World History in the better schools -- two years of U.S. history and two years of world history, including Africa, Asia, South America and Mexico and Canada.

    How many Gazette readers know the roles of Huerta, Juarez, Obregon, Zapata, the elder Calderon of the 1930s? How many know the role of the U.S. State Department brokering special deals for U.S. interests -- John D. Rockefeller, Anaconda Copper, Phelps-Dodge, etc.?

    -- Posted by HerndonHank on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, at 6:14 PM
  • The bill won't pass the Senate. They don't want to get voted out of office.

    -- Posted by marcus elvis erogenous on Sun, Nov 8, 2009, at 9:15 AM
  • Sam, Thanks for the info on the Thresher. Like you said, most of the high school and college students today don't have a clue about REAL American history. All they know about is revisionist history. It's about time people wake up and get in a position to replace these socialist educators with real patriots. Some of the college students in this country can't even find the USA on a map!! Ask them who Dwight Eisenhower or Douglas MacArthur were and they look at you like you're from Mars.

    -- Posted by marcus elvis erogenous on Sun, Nov 8, 2009, at 9:23 AM
  • Great reminder, Sam, of real heros. Thanks

    -- Posted by shaarhues on Thu, Nov 12, 2009, at 11:53 AM
  • Thanks for the right reminder Sam. It doesn't take a war for our veterans to be in 'Harm's way.' Peace time training, can often be as if not more hazardous than war time action.

    No one, who rides beneath the waves, Submariners, consider themselves hero's, more blessed than anything. We worked with some of the most intelligent, hard working, hard playing people known to man. They are, like all others who serve, capable of 500% concentration, when the going gets tough. I was honored to serve with many of that ilk, in submarines, and other capacity. Thresher is but one example of what those who serve face, whatever branch, we all serve.

    Thanks again, and may the Thresher Souls all rest with Messiah, Jesus, through Eternity, as all those others not remembered in such glorious memory, but just as important. Arley Steinhour

    -- Posted by Navyblue on Fri, Nov 13, 2009, at 12:07 AM
  • Thank you for a good read. I had four brothers that fought in the BIG war and even though I was the youngest in my family I am the only survivor.One went down with his plane after orderng his crew out-the other is buried in Italy and a third died in the Vets hospital in Seattle.I guess it depends on your life experience how much you love our great country. Keep up the good work.

    -- Posted by Altamae 7 on Sat, Nov 21, 2009, at 11:05 AM
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    Altamae, a very big Thanks for telling us about the heroes in your family. I am thankful to God for every one of them.

    -- Posted by CandyKilroy on Sun, Nov 22, 2009, at 3:24 PM
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