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Rope A Dope
Posted Wednesday, July 22, 2009, at 1:56 PM<< Previous | Read comments | Respond | Email link | Next >>
AND the Republicans jumped on that opportunity like a rat on a Cheeto. If the Republicans had not taken the bait, and had stayed the course on other investigations, the Clintons could have been exposed, and dealt with in the courts. They never had to answer for the missing Rose Law Firm billing records, mysteriously found two years later in Hillary's office. They never had to answer for the firings of the White House Travel Office, nor the nine hundred secret FBI files, found in the White House, of those who opposed Clinton. (Chuck Colson went to jail for ONE file) They never had to answer for Craig Livingstone, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broderick, Whitewater, and Hillary's mysterious cattle futures trading. Bill never had to explain why he let LORAL Space give the Chinese critical upgrades to their nuclear weapons programs for campaign cash. Bill never had to explain taking money from the Riati group to put Utah's vast clean coal reserves off limits, and on and on. In the end, by taking the bait, the Republicans blew it, and the Clintons' survived to do further damage to this country. Rope A Dope. I bring this up because of the Obama birth certificate issue. Those of us who oppose Hopey Change need to think and act wisely when dealing with this subject. Considering who is in charge in the Senate and House, it wouldn't matter if Obama was born in Kenya. If Obama were to go on television tonight and admit that he was born in Kenya, it wouldn't matter. The Democrat Party would ignore and trample the Constitution, again, just like they do every day. Why would this be different? AND, I must tell you, that it appears to me that Hopey Change WAS most likely born in Hawaii. (although, nothing would shock me) So then one has to wonder why Obama hides the actual birth certificate, and plays games with it's release. Therein my friends, lies the Rope A Dope. If we spend time going after false issues, or issues that do us no good, then Hopey Changes' real crimes against the United States may go uncovered. Exposing Obama for what he truly is, will be delayed, at an enormous cost to our country. We must remember who made who. Do not make the mistake of thinking that Hopey Change is leading anything, he is not. Obama is the creation of the wacky religious left, and he will do exactly what he is told to do. Obama will do what he was trained to do by Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, and a pile of Marxist professors no doubt. It is all the other records that Obama has hidden that are of interest. We may find out who paid for Obama's expensive education, when Obama says he had no money and no job. You hear from the Hopey Changers how Obama was the President of the Harvard Law Review. Is that like being head towel boy at the bath house? So what? Study how that honor was given out,. Harvard went way out to get more minorites to be able to say they were President of the Law Review, they appoint about forty of these "Presidents". Try finding any writings from Obama during his college days. They've all disappeared. Along with records on who paid the bills. Here are just some of Hopey Changes' REAL missing records: *Occidental College Records *Columbia College Records *Columbia Thesis paper *Harvard College Records *Selective Service Registration *Illinois State Senate schedule *Medical Records (Bush and McCain gave hundreds of pages of medical records) *Law Practice client list *Harvard Law Review Articles (he was the prez, shouldn't there be at least one?) *University Of Chicago scholarly articles *His Illinois State Senate records *Dates of church attendance prior to "disowning" Dr. Jeremiah Wright AND while we are at it we could ask for an accurate accounting of Obama's dealings with Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, a radical ideologue with ties to Saudi Royal Family. It was al-Mansour that worked to get Obama into Harvard. Did he pay for it as well? The reason I can ask a question like that is because Obama has been so nebulous about it. The Obama's spoken and printed word are in conflict as to Hopey Changes college debt and payment of the alledged debt. We conservatives have got to be careful about over pursuing the birth certificate issue. Of course, Obama may have given up his citizenship to travel to Indonesia at a time when American Citizens were not allowed to do so, but with this Congress and Media, we will never know, and therefore we are wasting time. Let us focus on Obama's war against the United States, and his efforts to destroy the Private Sector and end Capitalism. These crimes against America are far more hideous than the 50-50 shot he was born in Kenya. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Sam,
Get back to writing about the open road.
You are so full of BS politically, there is no value in reading your Neo Nazi Blogs.
Now you are claiming that all the public records concerning President Obama are missing.
All any educational institution can do is release the information a person was enrolled, graduated, honors earned and the date.
Most will not even release GPA anymore, without express written consent from the subjects.
Why should anyone release his records to some semi-literate, totally unsophisticated, attack mode RedNeck gear jammer or any one involved with the Neo Nazi political conservatives.
But the wierdest thing yet --
THE RADICAL RELIGOUS LEFT.
Sam, How do you drive at all smoking that much Willie Nelson tobacco
Wow!
Must be some mighty fine "stuff" you boys and girl are a smokin.......
Speptre you are really the pot calling the kettle black............wow......mighty fine "stuff"!!
Of course all the illegal crap old W, and his strings puller dick did over the last 8 years don't count.
Amazing!
I really have to laugh at the radical religious mentality that this community has. I always thought that really religious people loved thy number, always gave a helping hand, encouraged people to take the path of God and encouraged them to become better people. Well, that mindset of mine has changed. I have been judged more by the religious people of this community than any other that I have lived in. Instead of religious people lending a helping hand, they stick their nose in the air. It really has been an eye opening situation for me. The reason I am writing this on this blog by Sam Eldridge is because he does represent a lot of what I see in this community. People that think they are Godly, when in reality they are not at all. Sam, I am sorry to tell you this my friend, but I don't think you hold the golden ticket into heaven like you think. I think you need to change some of your views. I hate to tell you this, but really, you are not a good person. You are wasting your time by thumping your Bible and posting your slandering blogs on this website. If you truly want to become a Godly person, you should probably spend more of your time knocking on doors in this community and telling people about how God truly loves them. No matter who they are...Gay, Democrat, Liberal, Hispanic, Muslim, ect. Judging people and calling them slanderous names is not "Godly" my friend. At least that is what I learned from my Bible. If you ask me, the best religious group in this community is the Mormons. They go door to door and preach the good news. Ask people to join them, give a lending hand. Isn't that what it is all about? Sam, you are wasting your time and right now and I am wasting mine.
Nation,
I have read your post over and over, and was trying to come up with an appropriate reply......
I guess the only reply is I am sorry that you have found so many in our town that do not practice what they preach. I hope you will look a little deeper, there are many fine Christian people in our town, ones that try to be civil, and respectful of others,be it their political views or their religion. There are many that go about their volunteering, helping many many people, not paying attention to their religious or political preferences usually never asking for anything in return and shy away from any type of notoriety. Hopefully you can find more of them.
But I see Mr. Speptre has already managed to twist your wakeup post into another hate filled rambling post.
Hopefully you also realize that not all posters are from our town or even our state......
Just too bad that a civil discussion of a subject is almost impossible on this website, especially if you do not agree with their "side". Sad, truley sad.
"Just too bad that a civil discussion of a subject is almost impossible on this website, especially if you do not agree with their "side". Sad, truley [sic] sad."
Unfortunately I couldn't agree much more with You've. I'm lamented this fact for months now, and as you implied, it doesn't matter which "side" you are on, there is an almost complete lack of civility here. I just ask all to keep in mind that the lack of civility comes from all "sides"
Sorry about the spelling SW, I try to proof read before sending. But it was 115am, 20 lashes with a wet dictionary page!
nation of change : And I should listen to you why?
Christians have stood by and watched as fifty million kids have been murdered, and you are going to tell me about God?
And I should listen to you why?
Christians have sat on their fat pews, and let a bunch of Marxists, or worse, take over our country, and I should listen to you why?
Christians have been weak against stopping porn, against stopping the homosexual agenda against God and Christ, and I should listen to you why?
And nation of change, I really feel just awful that you are feeling picked on. You might try growing a backbone.
Don't lecture me about being Godly.
Listen up dummy! America has over three hundred thousand churches, what good are they? You can keep your sissified, limp wristed, do nothing religion all you want. You'll have allot of company. Over 85% of folks in America say they believe in God, sadly most are like you, and the fifteen percent Godless minority run over us.
You're pathetic, and I choose not to be pathetic like you.
Herndon Hank - I love the neo nazi bit, as you wouldn't know a Nazi if he swam up and bit you on the fanny. Hopey Change is the Nazi here, not me, and you are such a sheep, you follow along, mindlessly.
Sadly, there are some so-called conservative folks that would let their country, their kids' futures, and their freedom go right down the toliet, rather than say anything that would offend a poor mind numbed liberal.
Save your anger for the people out to kill this country, the nutty Democrats and Hopey Change.
Sceptre - Steffanie
These folks don't want to hear the truth. They are too selfish. If they were to admit the truth, that would require action, and it's much easier just to go along, to be one of the sheep.
These poor diluted souls will go right to slaughter, bleating "four legs good, two legs bad" until they are killed off, or told by the Hopey Changers, that it is their patriotic duty not to get health care at their age and please go ahead and die.
Thanks for sticking with what is right.
Sam,
You brought up many good points, and your detractors did not manage to answer a single point. All they did was attack you. There are times Sam, when I wonder why you do it. Why do you bother? Most of these poor liberals have been so brainwashed over the years, they don't know what the hell to believe. They just know they have to hate you, because you tell the truth. Jesus said: "the truth shall set you free." Why don't liberals want to be free?
Hey Monte - Good to hear from you.
The religious left wants to be free of the rules of GOD, but they turn right around and beg to be made slaves of the State.
When Herndon Hank is denied Health Care because the left thinks he is too old, and needs to die already, or when unemployment reaches fifteen or twenty percent, or when it costs a thousand bucks to heat your home in the winter, it will be guys like Hank that will cry out: "why didn't anyone try stop these people!!!"
Steffanie - I am thankful to Michael for demonstrating what years of liberal abuse can do to a guy.
I made need to make an apology here.
I have called the followers of Hopey Change, sheep. This is not right.
So right now, I want to apologize to all the actual sheep in the world. Forgive me, I know you are smarter than a Democrat, and I didn't mean to insult you.
So much hate,sad,really sad.
So many comedians out of work and we get comedy from sammy boy and stuffanie.
Sad, really sad.
What it is so compelling about this particular discussion, is that Sham and G5 are perfectly willing to trammel their alleged religious beliefs, and use things like abortion (oh and by the way, plenty of conservatives get abortions) as a way to justify their anti-Christian rhetoric. I say "alleged" because it is very clear that the conservatives on this site do not know why they believe what they believe, other than Rush Limbaugh and their parents told them.
I can't say it any simpler than that. RMontana, G5, Sham especially (Steffanie actually seems to have some measure of wit, though she chooses to wield like her dumb brethren), throw around words like sheep, while suckling at the Limbaugh/Savage tit and then expect their words to make an impact or a difference. Here is a bit of news...you aren't changing anyone's beliefs with your dumbness. Flailing and attacking and providing ridiculously biased arguments with no sources, just your redneck opinion, means less than nothing. You aren't changing anything, and you never will. The people who are stupid enough to agree with you were already suckling, and there isn't even a modicum of hope that any of your uninformed opinions change people smarter and more educated than you.
That is what is so inspiring about America right now, smart has triumphed over dumb, education over ignorance, and the 1950's version of America that you are longing is (luckily) long over and never coming back.
Stuffanie
The wedding bit is getting really old and stale.
Find some new material, I'm sure there is more on the OxiRush, EIB redneckwork.
Good God get a life.
My guess is because he doesn't have the money, and borrowing the money to pay for it doesn't make any sense because there is not an investment or capital gain.
Wait Steffanie! Before you answer GI, let me do it for you. I hope the following expresses the sentiment you wish to convey:
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"Guillermo, Mike would not borrow $50,000 for his dream wedding, because he cannot afford it, and would be passing the debt down to his children and grandchildren. It makes no logical sense and it's unfair to sacrifice their financial futures for his temporary happiness.
This is much the same way that it is inequitable for President Obama and the Democratic Congress to borrow money that we can't pay back (money our children/grandchildren will have to pay back) for our temporary needs."
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Now, Steffanie, I do this for you, because I can predict what is likely going to happen if you respond yourself:
First, you are going to respond to GI with this sentiment, except you'll word it in a derogatory way towards Guillermo, President Obama, and liberals in general. You will likely spew a few colorful and hateful words. And you will certainly make some sort of juvenile play on someone's name.
Of course, Guillermo will respond in kind (though I usually find him quite a bit more sharp and witty). And of course, no productive conversation will have occurred.
Whereas, if you responded the way I have for you (respectful, coherent, civil), I would hope Guillermo would show you the same courtesy, and offer to rebut your points in a similarly respectful manner.
Welcome to civilized discourse.
i was too late :(
Stuffanie
On the F22 discussion I asked you if it concerned going into debt to pay for it, you never answered, but again like I said yesterday, you W worshipers should know everything about debt, since W did such a wonderful job of running it up during his 8 "glorious" years. But since he is now chopping wood again in Texas, we should forget about his contributions to the national debt?
Pinhead, huh? Haven't been called that since I was a little kid, in grade school.
My, but you righties are so original in your name calling!
Sticks and stones, sweetie, sticks and stones.
jhat, your levelheadedness always makes me feel guilty, stop it! you are right though, I very much respect posters like McCook1 and the absent doodlebug, who have contributed to, rather than sapped the life from, the topic at hand, and I am much more inclined to keep the vitriol to a minimum with them. With people like Sam, G5, and Steffanie, all the valid points in the world will only further entrench them in their craziness, so as lost causes, it amuses me to play back at them, even if the discourse suffers.
Steffanie,
Yes, capital gain, as in a profit that results from investments into a capital asset. You are right I am a fiscal conservative, and I do stick to a fairly strict budget, but I spend money on investments, and I do not mind spending on upgrades to certain things like my TV or computer, even if I have to spend a few months or years paying it back. Credit is both a really good thing for America and when abused it can be a very bad thing. But very few small businesses start without "burdening the future with yesterdays overspending."
P.S. The only butchering I love involves cows, pigs, chickens, etc. I am a pretty big fan of person choice though.
Stuffy
So old horned toad Bill still going after the
"lookers"? LOL
Must have been a real big handfull?
GI,
haha. No worries. And no reason to feel guilty. It's completely understandable to respond the way you do when talking to the people like Steffanie. I usually feel inclined to be snarky and mean-spirited back to them as well.
(Actually, I don't want to equate your posts to the mirror images of Sam/Steff/etc. While they sound more hateful and hysterical to me, you typically sound like someone who just likes to poke fun and make snarky comments, almost Jon Stewart-esque).
I usually just think to myself "What if McCook1, doodlebug, and the other respectful conservatives never posted here? I would likely think that ALL conservatives werelike steffanie, Sam, and co.
That's why I'm glad there are (at least a couple) of reasonable and respectful conservatives on this board. Because they remind me that people on the other side of the political spectrum aren't all hateful, disrespectful, etc. (and, of course, because I actually enjoy discussions with them). It's easy to forget in our highly partisan society, that the majority of people on either side of an issue are capable of discussing it civilly and respectfully, because the ones who are not capable are usually quite a bit louder.
Are you truly satisfied repeating yourself over and over G5? Do you think that anyone on the board who is lucky enough to have escaped the idiocy of extreme conservatism actually believes anything you say. All you write are opinions, no facts, no information, nothing tangible, just opinions.
Like this...Obama is doing a fantastic job, the Dow is back above 9000, we are fighting our enemies in the correct country/region, health care reform will pass in some form or another which everyone on both sides of the aisle agrees needs to happen, he has saved several important American companies from imminent collapse and some of those companies are now reporting profits, he is making good progress on green energy and cutting back carbon emissions, he has a cabinet of people that are hyper-intelligent (see: nobel prize winner) and incredibly well respected in their areas of expertise, roads and schools and bridges in long need of maintenance are getting rebuilt via stimulus money, he is refusing to spend billions of dollars we don't have on defense regarding weapons systems we do not use, he has brought equality to women in the workplace under the Leadbetter Act, he is working to close the unconstitutional prison Bush built on foreign shores in an obvious effort to skirt US law, he is bringing dialogue and respect back to foreign policy (as opposed to his predecessor's bumbling stupidity and machismo), and he has done all of this in only 7 months.
As long as he continues to do the things he promised in his campaign as successfully as he has thus far, he will be reelected in 2012.
I'll end with a quote I am sure you are familiar with, and it pleases me to no end to use it now: "This is America, love it or leave it."
See how easy it is G5, to just ramble on about things with no specificity? With the lack of detail you present in many of your posts, it is easy to twist an event to fit most any perspective.
For the record, I do think Obama has done some really good things. Many other things I am not so sure about, but I have a wait and see attitude. For the first time in 8 years your president is the smartest guy in the room, not the dumbest. It may take some getting used to, but eventually you will grasp the concept: you are not as smart as the president anymore.
In your case, attacking you is a very simple thing because everybody knows you deserve it, and you open yourself up to attack by being a gigantic insanely racist a-hole.
Where are the jobs he promised? It has it has been six months since the man started his term. You cannot be THAT idiotic to expect Obama to turn around 8 years of the dumbest policies in presidential in history in the short amount of time that has passed since the stimulus bill went into effect...can you?
But in the spirit of providing facts, here is an article that shows a fair and accurate picture of the economy and the job market.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/23/markets/...
Sam,
Your attack toward me has just confirmed my opinion of you. Your slanderous writing only shows your ignorance. Calling me a pathetic, limp wristed dummy only proves that you are a sinner. I hate to tell you this, but I am part of the 85% of Americans who do believe in God. I know that I need to become a better man. I am not afraid of admitting that. It is you my friend that I pray for. You are causing more damage than good. Your hate and discontent only scars your soul. Love thy neighbor Sam! If you are damning me, then I will see you there!
Sam,
Your attack toward me has just confirmed my opinion of you. Your slanderous writing only shows your ignorance. Calling me a pathetic, limp wristed dummy only proves that you are a sinner. I hate to tell you this, but I am part of the 85% of Americans who do believe in God. I know that I need to become a better man. I am not afraid of admitting that. It is you my friend that I pray for. You are causing more damage than good. Your hate and discontent only scars your soul. Love thy neighbor Sam! If you are damning me, then I will see you there!
See this is what I am talking about G5, that was the stupidest list I have ever seen. It takes very little effort at finding out the truth, and relying on facts...it's just spin. Anyone inclined to believe that spin put on the events enumerated above is in serious need of psychological help. You could literally take any one of those points and spin it right around to show the good side. Pick one, any of them, and I will tell you why it is wrong, and show you how it is simple spinning by right wing zealots.
Gonna need to try harder than that G5...anyone with a pulse sees right through that garbage (oh and do I have to remind you of thievery again? Cite your sources).
"CNN, Communist News Network, may report, "Wall Street rallies to best level of '09"."
Says the idiot who has blasted the LA TIMES for being a liberal rag, and then used the LA TIMES to support his argument. You have no credibility left g5, but you somehow manage to keep losing more of it.
"PRAY and BELIEVE.... OR REVOLT!!"
Hurry up and revolt so I can watch it on CNN with my buddies.
Haha, keep telling yourself that for the next 7.5 years.
And for those of you concerned about approval ratings...here is an interesting bit of history. Bill Clinton dropped to around 37% by the end of his first year in office, and finished with the highest post WWII approval rating of any president.
Bush on the other hand enjoyed a 90% approval rating after 9/11, and slowly squandered that to one of the lowest post WWII approval ratings of any president.
It only goes to show you that counting on the 6 month to 1 year approval ratings to show how a president will end up, might be a bit misleading.
Sceptre,
There are two of your items that jump out at me most. First is No. 10, the national debt has not doubled under Obama, not yet anyway. If it had we would have over 20 trillion dollars in debt. Second is No. 17, Obama attempted to move the Census bureau into the White House but backed off after pressure on the issue. Therefore, the Census Bureau is still right where it always was.
Obama's poll numbers are down because he's not campaigning anyday. If he were in an election he would be out pandering to all the groups he did in the election and promising the world and people would probably still buy it. A poll during an election cycle and a poll outside an election cycle is completely different and comparing them will not present an accurate picture. That's why I don't look at his dropping poll numbers as an indication of his ability to be re-elected. He's in office mode more than election mode right now.
Think about it, he promised that Gitmo WILL be closed in his first year in office. Now, he's pushing it back 6 months. He said the first thing he would do in office would be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act (thankfully, he lied about that too) but I haven't even heard him utter the words "freedom of choice act" since he took office. He's no different than any other politician. He promises one thing on the campaign trail and delivers another in office.
Mr. Sceptre,
Liberals are good at making it appear as though there is more support for liberalism than actually exist. I know this because liberals need activist Courts to impose the liberal will upon the country. Abortion, gay marriage, the Texas Sodomy law, affirmative action, etc., etc. I have to agree with Sam about the birth certificate. To the media and the Democratic Party, Mr. Obama could have been born in Downtown Iran, and they wouldn't care. They would probably support him more, so great is liberals' hate for America. Thanks for your comments.