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Devouring Maidens Out Of SeasonPosted Sunday, March 1, 2009, at 3:16 PM
It upsets me that you think I am mean and don't care about the poor. I guess I should re-examine what I say, and try and use softer talk and kinder notions. Try and be more sensative. Or, like I said, just shut up, stop writing the blog, and support the President's efforts. I have learned a couple of things from President Obama. Really, I have. Let me demonstrate. I meant none of what I just said in the paragraphs above. I was completely disingenuous. I just told some of you what I thought you wanted to hear. President Obama pledged five days reading of Bills before votes would be taken. He lied. President Obama said there was no pork in these massive Socialist spending bills, and he lied. There are upward of nine thousand. The President just told you want he thought you wanted to hear. I don't care if some of you are offended. Being offended is the tactic that losers and liberals use when they cannot win the argument, when all else fails, cry foul. It is not just Obama, it is the entire liberal culture that needs to be defeated. Liberals have been polluting the system for long enough. Liberalism has wasted trillions of dollars, produced nothing but Government abuse, and a generation of crybabies. AND, now they want to drag us off to a Socialist Utopia. No thanks! I intend to stay here and call out liberalism for the gutless choice it really is. Examine the liberal who chided me about the usual homeless guy under the bridge. My, don't the liberals love to USE the guy under the bridge. 67 million people voted for Obama, if only 1 in 1000 actually took care of the guy under the bridge, there would be 67,000 less guys under a bridge. Hey liberal, when you see a guy under the bridge, go feed him! Quit crying to me about, and go do something. Liberals use the guy under the bridge routine to try and make conservatives feel guilty. The left loves guilt. They feed on guilt. CONSERVATIVES Those of you conservative folks that think I am too harsh. Please, please, please...stop buying into these straw dogs. Anytime you expose a liberal, they call it an attack. Liberals always try and limit our arguments by calling them hateful or mean. Stop listening to these crybabies. We have a country to fight for, and the absolute last thing we should care about is liberals' itty bitty feelings. Liberalism is a political disease. Hard truth is the cure. The left has declared it's intentions. They intend, behind Barack Obama, to drag the USA into Socialism or worse. There are millions of people who feel the way I do, and in my own little corner of the world, I will fight in the arena of ideas. The left has declared it's intentions. They intend to chain unfathomable debt around the necks of our grandkids to permanently install a nanny state. We should not work with liberals, we should defeat them. We all know that the government could end the financial crisis and restore America to greatness tomorrow. Three little steps. 1. Cut taxes. Cut taxes now. Cut 'em high, cut 'em low. Cut taxes for businesses, cut capital gains, simplify the tax code and eliminate the IRS. 2. Cut regulations. Cut regulations now. Stop bending over for the environmentalist earth worshippers. Unleash our energy potential. Get government of the backs of energy, and use our energy assets. Build nuclear, build nuclear now! 3. Cut government. Cut government now. We are not in the mess we are in because of business. We are in trouble because of government liberalism out of control. We have an obese fat pig of a government, that never sees an end to it's power or appetite for our money. Cut down the number of federal employees. How tough is it? It's tough because of the political disease of liberalism. As you can tell, this posting had nothing to do with devouring maidens, in or out of season. Another thing I learned from Obama. Just call your message something fancy, regardless of what it really contains. Call it the Stimulus Bill, not what it is, the Socialists and Government Takeover Act of 2009. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Loved your blog today and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
very, very good, Sam. Glad you're not going away with your tail between your legs. Maybe you should run for office.
I don't want to give you the feeling of offending me. I was not offended by your words, I just disagreed. I personally wouldn't mind if you continued. Your opinion is not offensive, the way it is stated can be.
And, in my opinion, America itself is the reason we are in this depression. People tried to live beyond their means for too long. And tha banks are to blame as well. But you can't blame the liberals only, Bush was pushing for more and more homeloans, as was clinton, as was bush jr.
There is not one scapegoat for this situation. Many elements contributed.
But again that's my opinion. If you disagree, that's fine. You can voice yours. If you are going to stop writing, do so because you are tired of it. Not because you think people don't want to hear your opinion. ON the contrary, i find your opinion entertaining.
There are going to be people who agree with you, and people who disagree no matter what you say, so just keep saying it.
Wow, that was great satire Guillermo.
But at the same time, I feel you let Sam get under your skin too much. I hope you didn't spend too much time and energy on this.
But again, that was well written sir.
This is going to sound very ignorant but onward I trudge, I believe you stated that you are from Spain, is English your 2nd language.
If so I am impressed. I comprehend spanish pretty well, but am not fluent. And i am in the process of teaching myself portuguese and french. But I know, that I could not piece together something filled with sarcasm and wit in spanish.
Well done
Sam,
You're at your best in your quiet reflections of beauty. For example, the compelling portrait of the Montana landscape showed a Sam who's intuitively in harmony with what is around him.
Today's blog presents something different, a disjointed effort to create chaos where none exists and where it's not warranted. And, anyone who calls others "crybabies" should be in diapers himself with a pacifier as the added bonus.
Classical liberalism (Hobbes, Mill) made the distinction between sovereignty of nations and the divine rights of leaders. Basically, the argument was that institutions should provide and protect the rights of individuals through documents such as constitutions. We couldn't assume that those with "divine right" would protect everyone's rights.
Contemporary liberalism has taken a slightly different and importantly complex turn, involving social justice issues in the mix, addressing how in fact institutions should protect groups of people as well as individuals. Berlin, in his book Four Essays on Liberty provides a succinct set of ideas about today's liberalism, its problems and its hopes. You should read it. It will go a long way in educating your readers, and it will also surprise you -- you'll find yourself agreeing with some of his points. Also, if you just stop for a moment and listen to President Obama's plan, and I mean really listen, you'll find that those three points that you offer for moving forward are in fact part of the current administration's agenda.
I think your decision to blog or not to blog should be motivated by a solid idea about what your contribution might be to society in this medium. (Just know that your rights are protected by institutions no matter what decision you make -- a liberal idea.) The ranting and raving seems out of place at a time when people are trying very hard to make things work in this country. Criticism has its place, but misplaced and uninformed critique waylays the good that we can do.
G5,
Your first sentence prompted hiccups. I recognize the jest in words.
Institutions do protect as long as people are agents within them. That agency results in inquiry, change, improved conditions, a questioning of the status quo. Social justice evolves out of our individual and collective participation and questioning of institutions. You're right to point out, as Foucault has in the past, that people become de-centered and invisible under the institutional gaze, but the United States is a place where we have laws and a system of courts and a population that constantly revisits its institutions. Sometimes we don't do that quickly enough, i.e., as a country we didn't really question collectively the war in Iraq until more recently, but when we do, we take action. The latest presidential election is such an action.
You give me hope, G5, when you say that the laws should be changed regarding the complicated and complex immigration issues we face. I agree with you. You're calling for reasonable discourse and are questioning the current laws given that they don't make sense in light of the hard working people from other countries who work alongside citizens of this country and help stabilize our economy even when they don't have the appropriate paper work. It delights me to no end that you see that there must be change for the better.
I think people hyphenate for different reasons. I wouldn't argue that people shouldn't/can't do that in this country. Other countries don't allow for hyphenated identities and are "disappeared" for that. (Think of the Dirty Wars in South America in the early-to-mid 1980s.) I think that there has always been a deep collective shame about what happened to people of Japanese ancestry during the WWII era. There's a wonderful book called Dear Miss Breed: True Stories of The Japanese American Incarceration During WWWII and of a Librarian Who Made a Difference that you you ought to read on this topic. Maybe what IS American is to be able to articulate one's cultural or ethnic or gender or any other affiliation in relative peace. Again, we do depend on the institutions (as imperfect and problematic as they are) we erect to accomplish our goals.
One last point in response to your post: Ayn Rand was a powerful writer, one who gave generations of readers pause. She's made us question and think about the primacy of the individual in relation to the power and good of the collective society. I think it's smart that you point that out in your quote. However, that quote prompts questions rather than answers or solutions. In other words, I come away with more questions rather than answers when I read Rand. I think you should do the same.
Teachable Moment:
Guillermo represents the true heartbreak that is liberalism. The guy is bright, talented and so polluted that it makes you want to cry.
Moveon.org types are usually fairly gifted folks, educated to the point of utter stupidity. You think I am harsh? As harsh as liberals like Guillermo waving off the murders of fifty million kids?
Smart, intelligent folks like Guillermo, are really scared to death. He knows inside that he has bought a lie. He knows, in his heart, that liberalism has never produced anything but misery, shared misery, and death, lots of death. It is hard for the liberals to let go.
He struggles to try and convince himself more so than anyone else.
Do you noticed how all these God-haters, always point back to some Christian brutality centuries ago as justification for their hatred of Christianity. Yes folks, liberal hearts bleed for the 500 peasants killed by Christians eight centuries ago, but the fifty million dead kids today, who cares?
It is for the Guillermo's that I press on, knowing that they want to escape the evil clutches of self-godhood. Some do, and I am thankful to God for that.
Wow Sam, with all this keen insight into the heart and soul of every liberal out there, it's hard to imagine you're a former blogger instead of a political strategist for the Republicans (it seems like they could use your help).
However, what's not hard to believe is that you're just putting words into peoples' mouths and using generalizations to classify a certain group of people because that's a lot easier than trying to find a positive solution to the political issues you routinely comment on.
Best o' luck Sam, I hope you find a constructive way to air out your political views.
Sam, you know what's inside the heart of every single liberal across this country? Wow, i'm impressed. Some would call you God. And I bet you'd love it if they did.
Stereotype lately?
Oh G5, you had SUCH a good post going, but that HW Bush gave me a good chuckle...it couldn't possible be 41's fault that taxes were raised, just like it's not 43's he left office with the economy in the toilet. Please, teach me how to go through life blaming one group of people for all the problems in the world, I'm tired of having to be responsible for the decisions I have made.
Also, I think freedom and liberty will do just fine without Sam, myself, or you. You of all people should know that freedom and liberty rest in the hands of those brave men and women who defend our country while slobs like us spout off idiocy on message boards.
Guillermo Inglaterra:
http://www.afa.net/pdfs/unionfacts_nea.p...
The organization that has destroyed American education: The NEA - in 2004 alone, they spent $65.6 Million on political donations...20% of their budget supporting leftist politics instead of education. This is an ongoing pattern - "Between 1990 and 2004, 94 percent of donations made by National Education Association political action committees and individual officers went to Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics."
http://www.teachersunionexposed.com/poli...
And yet, the only meaningful reform in decades was under...**gasp** Pres. Bush
http://www.newamerica.net/files/FEBP_Bus...
As for spending on education...I've had my children in Christian schools, which do a far better job educating on about 1/2 the money.
Sam is far more right - and correct - than you are.
G5,
I am grateful for your service. I owe a great debt to you and anyone else who has served in the military. I am sorry for making light of something so selfless and honorable. I was wrong.
What I should have said is that I don't believe that the fight for liberty and freedom is waged on message boards, blogs, or discussion posts. Nobody is changing their politics based off this blog (this isn't exactly a forum for eloquent political discourse).
If any of us start to believe that we're defending freedom by calling the opposing political party a bunch of poo-heads, then we become terribly delusional and perform a disservice to the brave men and women who are the real defenders of justice and liberty.
In other words, have some clarity. We're not writing Shakespeare here.
this question in general: Why do so many of Obama's picks for government officials seem to have tax issues? How can anyone claim Obama and the Dems are not doing "business as usual" when there were 8000+ pork projects in the latest stimulus bill? Yes, the Republicans did it too - Obama's claim was "a new era in government". Is he lying or not?
Wow, I'm gone for a few days and miss so much discussion.
doodle bug,
I think it is sad that a few of his appointments have tax issues. (Nancy Killefer, Tim Geitner, Tom Daschle).
Nancy Killefer failed to pay unemployment taxes and had a $900 lien put on her home. She paid the lien 5 months later.
Tim Geitner failed to pay $35,000 in self-employment taxes. He claimed this error was "avoidable", "careless", and "unintentional". I am personally willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Now, before anyone jumps down my throat for me being naive, or stupid, or too liberal. The McCains missed paying taxes on their property in La Jolla California. This came out during the campaign, but I don't recall it getting much press. McCain said it was a mistake, paid the taxes, and moved on. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt too.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/
Daschle's tax offenses seem a bit more numerous and dishonest. I'm not really willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. (And if you notice, he's not a cabinet member).
But here is what impressed me. Daschle's tax problems came to light during the confirmation process. Now, this means one of two things.
1) The Obama vetting team screwed up and missed Daschle's tax chicanery.
2) The Obama vetting team found his tax issues and Obama attempted to push him through anyway.
I find #2 exceedingly unlikely, especially after Geitner's tax issues were all over the news. I don't think it's very plausible that the Obama administration would KNOWINGLY try to appoint someone with even worse tax problems.
I find #1 much more likely. Which means what? The Obama vetting team screwed up. And Obama himself went on national TV and took responsibility for the error. And unless Obama was personally reviewing Daschle's tax records and missed the problems, it's not really directly his fault. But he still took the blame, because it was the fault of someone in his employ. That is what impressed me. And I think that is how the president should operate. Come right out and say "my mistake. I'll try to do better"
As for the "pork" in the stimulus package. I am of the opinion that it has been grossly overstated. (Not saying there is no pork at all, just not as much as some want you to believe)
I was initially upset, hearing that there was so much pork in it. But almost every time I actually looked into something, it really wasn't as bad as anyone was saying. I won't list everything here (post is already too long), but for instance:
I heard some republicans claiming that the bill would fund some ridiculous things (butterfly parks, water parks, etc), but it turns out all of the specific things they were naming were cherry picked from a list of over 18,000 "shovel ready" projects created by the US Conference of Mayors. This was a list of ALL POSSIBLE projects, not ones that would necessarily funded by the stimulus bill. Essentially it was the mayors' Christmas lists. And we all know that santa doesn't bring you EVERYTHING on your Christmas list. (I'm still waiting for my tub full of jello)
It's really gotten to the point where there is so much lying and misrepresentation about it (from pundits/politicians on BOTH sides), that I feel like I just need to read the darn thing myself. I wish the media would do a better job, but I don't really trust any of them to not be partisan anymore either. The media in general nowadays seems to be an outlet for people's viewpoints, rather than an actual fact-finding enterprise. Hopefully I will manage to find some free time to read it (and a lawyer so that i can understand it).
Doodle Bug, My sense is that a new era of anything is a mixture of what and who is already in place and what is likely to be developed. Hence, the very large stimulus plan seems to accommodate both parties. It's difficult to predict reliably who viable government picks are until they're investigated. That usually happens after they're chosen. We are only seven weeks into a new administration. I doubt we can really ascertain with any precision what "business as usual" means yet for the executive and legislative branches. I hope it will be thoughtfully productive leadership for the country.
jhat, thank you for your post. The information you provide is helpful in making sense of the "picks" as well as the reasons for the mistakes made.
RECOGNIZE REALITY.
Obama took office at the end of January.
The budget before Congress had been in development for 18-60 months.
There is a simple rule in our constitution:
THE PRESIDENT PROPOSES, THE HOUSE DISPOSES AND THE SENATE GETS WHAT IT CAN.
Power of the purse lies with the House constitutionally -- NOT THE SENATE -- and most certainly not with the President.
There was no way Obama was going to get an entire new budget out of the House -- PERIOD.
The GOP knows this.
The new president and his administration can begin influencing the next budget -- and also realistically -- already have.
The difference now is that Halliburton and KBR do not have a direct pipeline into the U.S. Treasury.
The Enron people will not be walking in and out of the White House with VIP passes.
The petroleum industry no longer controls the White House, Senate and House. The operative word is CONTROL.
Before all the uber-conservatives keep screaming "..spending Democrats and LIBERALS"- remember - Poppa and Dubyah Bush have saddled the U.S. taxpayers with more than $30-TRILLION in final payout, principal, interest and "FRICTION" in federal debt --and both of these conservative Republicans increased both the annual deficits and national debt, every second of every minute, of every hour, of every day, of every week, of every month and of every year -- during the 16 years they controlled the White House.
Neither of these "sainted" Republicans even attempted to produce a balanced budget.
The only chief executive within the past half century to effectively balance the budget and reduce debt was the most hated by the GOP -- Bill Clinton.
jhat and r.j., thanks for your reasoned responses. And yes, the republicans grew the national debt tremendously; I believe that is the reason they are out of power now - they were spending like democrats. I dont see how increasing it even more under the dems is going to help any. I hear you all saying the spending is going to spur economic growth; like the rest of you, I will have to wait to see if that actually happens. Someone please explain why Wall Street appears to be so reluctant to jump on board re the spending.
G5,
you did realize that your last post made you seem like a completely self-absorbed racist right?
You believe that if you live in a slum it is your own fault. If you don't have a job, it is your own fault.
Many times, this is true. But when one is born into a slum or ghetto surrounded by crime, they have no one to teach them the norms and values of American society. Freud would say that they are totally id dominated. They have no one to establish a super ego in them.
If you are a child with no father, and a mother who works three jobs, any you live in a high crime area with rampant drugs and gangbangers, who would teach you right from wrong? And right and wrong does have to be taught.
I'm not making an excuse for all people in poverty, because like you, I too believe many are there by there own actions. But to say no one in poverty deserves an outstretched hand from the government is absurd.
And what do you mean water down the gene pool? That is completely ignorant. Brain structure has nothing to do with ethnicity, or monitary status. The education one receives though does correlate directly to monitary status.
Your last post is a ridiculous indictment of all people who do not look like you, act like you, and believe like you. And that is selfishness, and biggotry in its simplest form.
I'm not worried about the economy as much as I am the blame game going on. "Its the liberals" "no its the republicans" Hell we might as well blame Canada or Antarctica. Why, you can blame who you want, the problem isn't going to be solved. How many organizations succeed when the decision makers are fighting and wont listen to the other side? Zero. Why should I expect America to survive the same blame game?
Will the economy survive? I believe so. If Bush had a longer term it would've have survived, if McCain was elected it would have survived, Under Obama, the economy will survive. Assuming we can make policies. So far that isn't happening. I believe what is going on right isn't an anomaly as much as it's just the business cycle at work. I think Americans spending too much and getting too much debt caused it. simple as that. I don't think it was governmental policies that was the nail in coffin. Although, I never thought we should have been in Iraq and never felt there was sufficient Proof that there were WMDs there. I think the war has contributed to the economy falling as it added a doubled the national debt and spent the money in Iraq and not the US.
Do think we should be throwing a lot of money to business? I can see the theory as to why it will work. Give money for them to spend and let them spend it. Should we worry about the huge parties? I not so sure we should. These were multimillion dollar events giving the money to a few businesses that otherwise wouldn't have gotten it. Was I angry at first about them? sure then I realized that it could have helped others to have them. that would be more people who could put the money back into the bank or spend it to improve their own business.
With the omnibus spending bill that was passed this past week or two. I think congress completely screwed it up. and that wasn't only the Dems. Republicans had 40% of the Earmarks. I know that they were voted their to help get money to their states and such, but a little common sense would be nice. With only a 20% difference between the two, it possibly also means and, I'm NOT STATING THIS AS FACT as I haven't done any research that the minority party on average earmarked more per person then did the majority party. Would I be pleased if Obama vetoed the bill? I think so.
In conclusion, the economy will survive assuming that both parties can work together. In the 90's under Clinton they were great at compromising. They were so good at compromising they were able to impeach the president. We need to quit blaming people and come up with solutions. I don't see a lot of on blog let alone in congress. If the Americans can't come up with solutions and then write their congressmen and women, why should I expect any better of congress?
I have high hopes for this country. I think over time the cooler heads will prevail. I know we can overcome anything if only we'd listen.