Robbing The Poor

Are you insinuating that the homeless person on the street begging for a pack of cigs has not struggled to obtain that one pack? That the person who owns a flatscreen television hadn't at one point worked to buy it? We are none of us priviledged, nor should we pretend to be, in this representative republic of ours. Where is your relational perspective, Sam? I'm glad your daughters struggled through school to join the 34% of Americans who have a Bachelor's degree. Hopefully it will help them try and rationalize the arguments you make that seem to be based purely out of hatred, fear, and mindless flaying about than on enlightened reason. You are a true polemicist operating on a platform that proffers anything to negate freedom and truth, using your self-important blog to proffer a faux forum of debate, but knowing full well that regardless of what others might think, you will never truly reflect on some of the words you spew. How are posts such as these supposed to spawn intelligent debate? It's something to think about (not what poor is, or who is poor, or any of your ridiculous insults on the president [feeling a little smallish, Sam?]): the issue of exactly how the government should be handling the current scenario we are in. But it seems like you're not really interested in talking about that. Which is sad. Personally, I'm really torn. I'd love to hear what other people think. But I don't expect to learn much when it's mechanistically framed in the hatred with which you begun this thread.

I used to coach little league football. I had some kids that were quick, agile, and seemed to play well and make it through a practice without a sweat. I had others that worked hard, and even practiced at home, but they just couldnt get quite to the level of some of the more gifted kids even though they put as much, if not more effort into it. The point I am trying to make is that people have different levels of potential, depending on the gifts they were given.

It is true Sam that some people will only do enough to keep the government assistance coming, even if they have the potential to do much better. And these people are poor for a reason. There are also people that will try hard and always struggle. These people may always need some assistance, but they will always make progress. They may be poor, but they will be successfull in my eyes.

For the people that will only do enough to stay on public assistance, I would love to slam that door for them and force them to raise the bar a little. The problem is that we dont have a way of sorting these people out, and there is a lot of them.

For the people that work hard and try; some will always need assistance, and that is ok with me. Most will overcome the struggle and rise above public assistance. The people that are going to grow, will grow regardless of how easy it is to give up. PRIDE, is a beautiful thing.

I dont really agree with throwing money at the public assistance program with little or no control over what type of person will reap the benefits, but there is little these places can do as far as sorting them out. If I have to benefit a couple of losers to help 1 good man or woman through the struggle, everybody wins, because that one good man or woman will do us all some good.

One last note: I am not an Obama supporter, I did not vote for him. But I do hope for his success, becuase my country needs him to be successful.

This, flat out, makes no sense. I used to respect your opinion as a means of itelligent debate.

But lately, i'm honestly worried about your mental state. Many people were unhappy about obama being elected, but propoganda filled rants won't help anything.

You now have fellow conservative readers who have had to much. You do realize that you are technically committing liable about president obama? And many of your "plans" to get him out of office are radical and guerrilla.

You are calling for civil war. You seriously need to come to your senses.

I see that you people decided to lynch Sam with a cyber lynching true to your conditioning, and brainwashing. Before you spew more venom, I would like to see a responsible argument, or at least outline something more than your feelings.

You gutless hypocrite...as soon as YOU stop spewing venom, stop calling for civil war, stop your bigotry and racists ravings, and start making rational arguments based on something less than hyperbole and ad hominem attempts to further your man crush on Sam, THEN and ONLY THEN, can you start asking the same of other people.

G5,

I know this won't help much, because you've waved bye-bye to sanity and reason a long time ago, but here's some legit information that debunks your Obama birth certificate:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bir...

Sam,

When I first stumbled across your blog, I shared the link with a number of my college buddies and used it as an example of why I could never move back to my hometown near McCook, NE. Your blog stands as a strong example of the hate-mongering conservatisim that I experienced far too often in my upbringing, and I could never expose my children to the kind of lifestyle that you so proudly display.

I hope that for the sake of SW Nebraska and NW Kansas, the Gazette decides to pull the plug on your dog and pony show. Maybe then the area can be represented in a more flattering way.

This blog, and all of the posts raise some interesting questions, and out of curiosity, I would like to read some of the posters honest answeres to the questions, if anybody cares to participate. My answeres are below.

1. Is Sam a nut case? I dont really think so. I think he writes some of these blogs just to start an argument that he will later enjoy reading. I also think that the most important thing about Sams blogs is that he provokes others to think.

2. What is poor? It doesnt matter. What ever your income, you must learn to live withing your means. Dont spend half your paycheck on beer and tobacco, or pop out a few more kids you cant pay for, then ask me for help.

3. Is the financial struggle that most of us endure in early adulthood a useful thing? I think so, it goes back to the old saying, " you gain some of the most valuable experience of your life, right after you need it." People learn alot of lessons and truly become an adult after they have been slapped in the face by reality a few times.

4. Will there be progress made in the poor and homeless situation by throwing more money into public assistance program? I dont think so. People who are truly making an effort will overcome even if you dont give them more food stamps and dont extend the jobless benefit. The only people that will get much benefit from extending these programs are the people that intend to stay there.

5. Is Obama harming the poor? No, I think he is just throwing our money away. Most of the really poor are poor for a reason. They want a hand out not a hand up. You can throw all the money you want at them, and they will still be poor because digging out of the hole will require them to put down the crack pipe and pick up the work gloves, thats not going to happen.

I am not saying that they are all addicts, I am saying that most of the truly poor will always seek the easy way and this will not change no matter how much of our money you give them or how much you educate them.

5. Is Obama an American Citizen? I dont care...neither are half of the people that live in this country and own half of this country.(exaggeration) I dont think his citizenship is an indication of what kind of leader he can be, a bad idea can come from anyone. I dont care for him as president, but only because too many of his views differ from my own, that has nothing to do with his race, citizenship, part affiliation or religeon.

Seentoomuch, I agree,Live within your means and stop trying to get me and every hard working america to do it for you. TOUGH LOVE- SO SAD TO BAD!

Having been on assistance and clawed my way off of it (at the end of December, 2008, thank you) I get really tired of hearing people bash everybody who needs a bit of help.

I'm a single mom doing the best I can for my kids. I don't consider myself poor, even though my income falls below poverty level. I consider myself Working Class. Yes, I've seen people milk the system, and they piss me off, because they're liars and thieves.

Liars and thieves are on the top of my list of people that I can't stand. Next on my list are the intolerant.

I have come to realize, Sam, that you are in this second category. Therefore, I'm with Brian, and will never visit your blog again.

There's enough negativity in the world. I refuse to add more of it to my life than absolutely necessary.

Sayonara

~Sandy Gillispie

Time to circle the wagons.

Some clown who has not been out of his own tracks within human memory suddenly knows everything.

Obama's grandmother, a retired Bank Vice President and half-century resident of Hawaii was a confirmed terminal patient in the hospital there when Obama rushed to see her a last time.

His visit was more than public, leaving the campaign schedule -- and some genius labeling himself G-4 says the visit and her death a few days later are totally fraudulent.

Hell man, there were dozens if not hundreds of newsmen and photographers all over that hospital from the day the woman first checked in.

No record of his mother having a passport prior to the late 60s, just before she moved to Indonesia with her second husband, she married while still in the University of Hawaii. Said passport issued after she completed her first U of H degree. Funny, U of H records don't show any extended absence for her to travel to Kenya. No passport issued to her at that time and tons of hospital records, U of H records, newspaper vital statistic reports published at that time documenting the birth in the local hospital.

WHEE -- everyone knew this half African baby would grow up to run for president.

Dadburn G-4, you are a genius!

Some might attach another title to you, but it is obvious you are one of these guys who practices the old concept of -- "MY MIND IS MADE UP, DON'T TRY TO CONFUSE ME WITH FACTS."

Obama's Hawaiian birth has been documented with state records and with his passport issuance by the U.S. State Dept.

Don't recall any Communist presidents in the 60s when Obama was born and got his first passport.

I just watched the live TVcast of Obama visiting Camp LeJuene Marine Center and Cherry Point Air Base in North Carolina -- that well known hotbed of Ex-Senator Jesse Helms inspired Communism.

A big, highly decorated WHITE marine sergeant proudly displayed the hand that shook Obama's hand and declaring "It's good to meet a President I can believe in."

Now G-4, there is a marine who has been over the mountain and skinned the bear, and has served three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's evacuated dead and wounded Marines under fire.

He has been out of stuck-in-the-mud tracks and is not full of male bovine excrement.

Can you say the same??

It appears you have been too busy shoveling out the cow barn to even see a bear. Admittedly shovel detail that would provide you a supply of your favorite product.

Worse, if you saw the bear, you'd try to hitch him to a double-shovel walking plow.

Mccookreader,

Maybe you should read this agian, or maybe read it for the first time!!

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Marcus, as I posted early, you may want to pay VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to this bit...

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;"

Be very careful when invoking the passage about revolution, as its measure in relation to your willingness to act upon it will be taken by many eyes other than the regular readers of Sam's silly blog. Look carefully at the words "light and transient causes." If the election system breaks down, the majority of Americans no longer want Obama as president, the two term arrangement is abandoned, the Joint Chiefs pledge fidelity to stand against enemies to Obama rather than America, and Obama refuses to step down as leader, THEN and only then should we even consider looking at that passage with intent. To those of us on planet Earth, this notion is patently ridiculous...George Bush was more likely to pull something like that off than Obama. I am afraid the only real option you have available that doesn't end in tragedy for America, is for you to oppose Obama as loudly as you can, rally as much support as humanly possible to side with your vision of America, and try to wait out the next 4 years. The bottom line that nobody there seems to get is that most Americans are sick and tired of Republicans and their way of governance. The people chose and now you get to live with it. G5 says it will be a bumpy road...and for you and him and Sam, it certainly will be. Is it better to buckle up or to try to get out and try to stop the car? Which is more likely to end badly for you?

Thank you folks for your comments.

I never called for a civil war, come on now, don't put words in my mouth. I said: "I firmly believe that unless this Communist takeover is stopped by protest or other political means, this country is headed for a civil war and a possible break up, not to mention complete bankruptcy and utter financial disaster."

Do you folks think that the second amendment was put into the Bill Of Rights to protect duck hunting? I don't get that impression. I see that the founders wanted the citizens armed so that the government would behave. They wanted the the right to bear arms to protect against government tyranny.

I think there are millions of citizens that will not go quietly into a Soviet style of government.

This is an opinion blog, is it not?

I guess I must have hit pretty close to the mark to get you lefties so upset.

Also, if a former Ambassador under Ronald Reagan, a black man, a man of faith, Alan Keyes, had the courage to come out and call Mr. Obama what he is, a Communist, then I took courage from that man. If Ronald Reagan had faith in this man, as well as the Senate that confirmed him, then I have as much right to follow his example, as many of you who follow Obama.

Believe me, there is a big part of me that does not want to write about anything. Just shut the hell up, and live quietly, and do my best to survive what is in store for the USA.

I know people don't want to hear bad news, or bad predictions, or folks who seemed to be cloaked in doom.

I have a pastor friend of mine who thinks that Obama and the leftist takeover of this country, is, in fact, God's Judgement upon a nation that turned it's back on God.

Fifty million dead kids. That lays heavily on my heart. Maybe to you, it is not a big thing, but I ache for these precious gifts, slaughtered so easily and heartlessly.

Today, I had a long conversation with a man who owns a small business. He talked with pride about how he built his business from a pickup truck and two hundred dollars, to a company that employs sixteen folks. It took him twenty years.

That is the America I used to know. People with success stories, people who built dreams. Today, I see a different America emerging, one in which people give minimum effort, and expect maximum results.

I thought seen too much said it very well. He'll help three people, knowing that two will waste it, because the one will succeed. I think that is a very good point. One which I will take to heart. Thank you for that.

As far as those who don't want to read my blog anymore, well, I understand. These are tough times. Strong opinions are usually treated with contempt, I know that, I wasn't born yesterday.

Then why do I do it? Because I fear for my country's' well being and survival.

As far as my "suggestion" about not paying mortgages to drive Obama from office, I guess I was really trying to point out that "we the people" still have power. It may not seem like it, but we do. I also pointed out when I made that comment, that I was dreaming. Wishful thinking it was. I do wish Americans would see the gravity of the situation we find ourselves.

So, to Kurt, Bigsurmac, McCookreader, and good ole Guillermo, I have a healthy respect for you folks, I really do. I know we are light years away from reaching common ground, but I know you love this country, like I do.

I do so appreciate you taking your valuable time to debate issues that effect us all.

And as for you Brian, well -click- away pal. What do you stand for? Anything? Everything?

"The Constitution may not be perfect, but it's better than what the government is using these days."

This would be in reference to George Bush's administration right?

"I have a pastor friend of mine who thinks that Obama and the leftist takeover of this country, is, in fact, God's Judgement upon a nation that turned it's back on God." --Sam

"We were given the choice of free will; and divine intervention would negate that leaving us no better than well cared for puppy dogs on this planet." --G5

Let me see if I have this all lined up:

As long as there is a Republican holding Presidential office--specifically, a God fearing, fiscally conservative Republican--who aligns philosophically, ideologically, and morally with what YOU believe, insofar as the ways in which YOU have been indoctrinated by your parents, schools, and communities to view the world...as long as this specific kind of person is in office, then no matter HOW BADLY THEY ARE HURTING AMERICA, the country will inevitably avoid turning God spiteful, because by putting up with this Republican, Americans have not "turned their back on God." However, if the same people who elect this Republican for the most part all agree that he is doing more harm than good to us personally, nationally, and internationally, and by peacefully following the guidelines and procedures established by the founders of the United States to make changes in leadership, these people elect their only other choice as leader (given the two party system), then the people will anger God, and He will become like a school girl, turning his back on us for turning our back on him? Does anyone actually believe this bankrupt logic? No offense, but what ever Pastor said this has a very grim view of God's benevolence.

This country is bankrupt! They just haven't admitted it yet.Why do you think the FDIC stop backing your money a week ago last thursday.

Christians and Atheists, Democrats and Republicans, Reprobates and Subversives...

READ THIS COMMENT: "People here accused others on this forum of wanting to overthrow the government. That is absurd, to say the least."

This is a shining example of the delusional reality that G5 inhabits. Several times Sam and G5, his co-habitating yes boy, as well as Rightie, have mentioned overthrowing the Government.

G5 and Sam have both since retracted those statements like cowards who lack the courage of their convictions. I am not surpised by this as most radical fringe Republicans exhibit this characteristic at the first sign that their twisted evil philosophy has landed them somewhere out side of humanity and Christianity. In this case, they would have YOU stand up and fight for what THEY believe...but don't take my word for it:

Excerpt from G5, Sun, Feb 22, 2009, at 2:40 PM

"I hate to think the unthinkable, but sooner or later, it will take more than words to get rid of the morons, reprobates, and subversives poisoning our homes, families, and well-being."

Excerpt from G5, Tue, Feb 24, 2009, at 7:49 PM

"You won't get off that easy, and you'll have to pay the price. It won't be a pillow fight."

Excerpt from Sam Eldridge, Wednesday, February 25, 2009, at 1:40 AM:

"Sorry folks, sometimes a fight for survival is thrust upon us, and we have no choice but to stand against it.

I remind you that our nations' founders pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to stand for Liberty."

Excerpt from Rightie, Wed, Feb 25, 2009, at 12:57 PM

"A coup d'etat by the US military. Sound farfetched? I think not. Better now than when the military branches have been castrated."

AND NOW THE COVER:

"I never called for a civil war, come on now, don't put words in my mouth." --Sam

"Sorry folks, sometimes a fight for survival is thrust upon us, and we have no choice but to stand against it. --Sam

"People here accused others on this forum of wanting to overthrow the government. That is absurd, to say the least." --G5

"I hate to think the unthinkable, but sooner or later, it will take more than words to get rid of the morons, reprobates, and subversives poisoning our homes, families, and well-being." --G5

"You won't get off that easy, and you'll have to pay the price. It won't be a pillow fight." --G5

This is the kind of creeping idiocy that anyone, Jew, Muslim, Christian, Republican, Democrat, Communist, MUST look at and examine critically: how can any one of you associate these two fools with Christianity, Conservatism, America, or humanity? How can you, with a rational mind and decent Christian conscious read the ravings of these two traitors and treasonists and not balk and taking measure of their delusion? How can we as a country, as Americans, as human beings, expect to grow and prosper, to pursue happiness, and secure a life free of violence for our progeny, if we do not stand today and with one voice, reject these lying, cajoling, fear and hate filled malcontents who proselytize war and destruction, dissonance and disunity? When is enough enough? How far does it have to go?

Are you capable of an actual debate or only making desperate emotional appeals to a generation that has long since passed you by? Good riddance old man.

Tiney56.....no

Sam, You sound like a full blown biggot!