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It's Not A Race ThingPosted Thursday, February 19, 2009, at 11:03 PM
If there is racism in America today, it resides in the hearts of black Americans and America's Democrat Party. It's the only place I see it displayed, time and again. Democrats are the party of race. Remember the Super Bowl a couple of years ago with the two black coaches? That is all the sports media would talk about for two weeks prior to the game, it got sickening to even listen to it. Some skinny sports talk nerd, thinking that he will really get in with the black sports stars if he spends twenty minutes of a half hour interview talking about how wonderful it is to have two black coaches. Who cares? Eric Holder wants an honest talk about race. So when I say to you black Americans that it is time you do something about your kids quiting school, because over half of them do; it's not a race thing, it's a "stay in school and learn" thing. In most inner cities, children born out of wedlock to black mothers is sixty to eighty percent of pregnacies. So when I say stop having babies out of wedlock, it's not a race thing, it's a "take care of the children you father" thing. Half of black women getting pregnant are having abortions. Nice death toll there kids. So when I ask black moms to stop having abortions, it's not a race thing, it's a "quit killing your own kids" thing. There is horrific black on black crime in the inner cities. So when I say to black Americans, please stop killing each other, it's not a race thing, it's a "stop brutalizing each other" thing. And while we are being honest, as the Attorney General says we are to be, let us talk about affirmative action. If you want affirmative action, fine...let us start with the NBA. Black Americans seem to be all for quotas, well how about some quotas for the NBA. I don't see any five foot three inch tall Asians playing pro ball, nor Eskimo's, nor midgets. C'mon now, I thought you were for affirmative action. AND why are black Americans 13 percent of the population, yet they account for 33 percent of Federal Government employees? Aren't we all tired of the (a) Miss Black America (b) Black Entertainment Network (c) Congressional Black Caucus (d) the United Negro College Fund (e) black history month (f) first black this, and first black that, give it up for crying out loud. Substitute "white" in any of the above, and it would be racism. If it racism for the whites, then it is racism for the blacks. If black folks want to end racism in America, then to Black America I say; stop being racists. Get rid of the Jesse Jackson's, Al Sharpton's and Louis Farrakhan's, and preachers like Obama had. Stop with the hyper sensitivity, it is getting old. AND, let us talk about Obama, and his race. We have too, because it is Obama and his followers that bring it up all the time. Let's see, hummm, Barry used his white mother's birthright to even run for President, and yet he chooses to use his fathers' "color." You lefties will have to help me there, I am not sure of how that is done. Just what color is the President? I frankly don't care. When I look at Obama, I don't see black or white, or even cocoa colors. I see a Socialist thug. A Socialist with a chip on his shoulder. As I have written before, my brothers and I figure that we are basically mutts, but our ancestry is mostly native American. We settled it in our hearts along time ago that our ancestors lands are now called Montana, Oklahoma and Wyoming, etc. Time to move on. I grow tired of the constant whining of racism by America's black population. AND, I refuse to call black Americans "African -Americans". Most Americans ain't got no stinkin' hyphen. It is time black Americans got rid of their stinkin' hyphens. What good are they? Truth to Power! Black Americans want to hang onto that hyphen. They want to hang on the the sins of generations past. Wasn't it Tavis Smiley on PBS who opined that Obama Presidency was "just the down payment"? I am surprised that Eric Holder didn't break into talks about reparations. AND, that is what this constant harping on race is all about, from black Democrats. It is all part of the "you owe me" movement in America. Keep black Americans thinking America hates them, when most of America could care less. It cracks me up, when, as a non-black, I want to talk about race, I almost feel like I need a disclaimer. You know what I mean. We non-blacks have to preface our remarks with, "now I am not a racist." Or, "gee I have black friends." The hard cold truth is that "white" (for lack of a better word) America doesn't give a rip about race. It is the Democrats that use race as a method to power, as a method to control. AND, why is it not racist when 95% of black folks vote for the black guy? (I am still not convinced that Obama is a black guy, I think he is a Mutt, like me.) Hard to play race politics when you're just a Mutt. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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So Sam I take it from your column that you feel Blacks are equal in ability to Whites and all color talk should be abandoned. For the purpose of validity, could you cite the source of some of your statistics:
In most inner cities, children born out of wedlock to black mothers is sixty to eighty percent of pregnacies.
Half of black women getting pregnant are having abortions.
about your kids quiting school, because over half of them do
Where do you find this junk?
Oh boy. Here we go again. Now it's racism. Have you (Buff and Guillermo) ever looked at a larger city newspaper and seen who shot at who the night before? Their names always end in Gonzalez or Washington. Not their fault, of course, they've been oppressed by the honkie or the gringo.
Grow up, go to school, keep your legs together and try to be humans. This isn't a zoo and it isn't a battle ground (yet), it's America.
Now most of the time I find all of these blogs pretty silly, what I enjoy most it the ravings of all the people who post responses (so I guess I must amuse myself eh?) But what really cracks me up is that Guillermo and Rightie essentially just say the same things about each other both assured of thier righteous indignation. You both, and others who think like you on your respective sides, (I refuse to throw around ilk like everyone else) are so fast to judge and criticize without any real effort to work towards a solution. So you all have fun with your name calling it truly makes you seem the bigger man.
Is this supposed to be ironic?
I only ask because in the midst of this blog about the perils of racism on our society, the writer blatantly exposes his own racism.
Either way, the writing is done in very poor taste.
I have lived in the inner city before, I have not only heard who shot who, I have seen it. I have worked for the DOC in 3 states as well. It is true that the crime rate in the areas with the highest concentration of minorities is higher. I have conversed at length with drug dealer and killers about thier actions. My unqualified opinion is that these people have developed a culture in the inner city that generates this type of thought process. There is no outside stimulus that is driving these people to kill each other, or deal drugs. It is a culture that developed decades ago and has been passed down. I dont know if the criminals that I talked to hated me or not. I didnt hate them. The only time the race issue arose in conversation was when they were explaining why they got arrested. Again the inner city culture. I dont want to see people killing people; black, white, brown, yellow, any of us. I dont know how to break down this culture either, it probably wont get done with locking everybody up or by throwing money at it.
I also feel that affirmative action is a tool that has ran its course and no longer has any relavence. There are opportunities out there for everyone, go get yours. I dont owe any race anything, I had nothing to do with anything that happened 50-100 years ago, and I refuse to be held accountable for it.
Does anybody thing that possibly we could ease this race deal if we didnt talk about it at all? I see alot of dirt kicked up and attitudes start to turn ugly when the subject comes up. And usually the subject only comes up when someone in power is trying to work an angle for thier own benefit.
There's still racism amongst the whites. Here in NW Indiana there's still whites that refuse to be served by blacks at the local fast food place. I hear that there is still lynching in the south. It's not prevalent in Southwest Nebraska, but there is still racism in America by the whites.
The assertion that racism in America ONLY exists in the "heart of black americans" and the democratic party is absolutely ludicrous.
I am white, but I have seen racism first hand. Even just walking through a mall in a southern state (not mentioning any names) hand-in-hand with my mixed-race girlfriend, I have seen the racism. I have seen the dirty looks we received and heard experienced the discomfort and contempt that people had for our relationship.
Having to console her after she was called racial epithets and mocked on the street, I experienced it.
Listening to her remember painful memories from her childhood, when kids would not play with her, or when they tormented her because she was different, or when their teachers and parents sat by and did nothing, I experienced it.
Reverse racism like you described is absolutely a problem. But, I'm sorry, to protest that racism is one sided is simply ignorant.
Definition of nebulous:
--adjective 1. hazy, vague, indistinct, or confused
Seems to fit quite well.
To Sammy and the mini-Sammies,
Please explain how on the one hand you are totally against abortion even in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the mother but yet on the other hand you do not support government programs that would help raise the children that are conceived. Instead of providing assistance you call these same people who shouldn't have had the children worthless undeserving people in society. How do you balence this?
This is the most absurd thing i've ever heard.
I'm white, and this is my view:
Everytime white people complain about BET or Black Miss America... you have no validity.
You want them abolished because of fairness?
History isn't fair. The white race has oppressed people since the beginning of their existence. And now we complain about not being able to use the N word or not being able to say white power?
Be realistic. And when you say only democrats are racist, you are being silly. McCook is a very racist town. I'm from Omaha originally, and I cannot believe what is said about people of different races by average citizens of the town. It's appalling.
Oh and when you are talking about crime rates, it's not about race its about economics.
Poverty breeds crime. And have you ever noticed how high the use of meth percentage is in southwest nebraska compared to the rest of the state? It's ridiculously high. And it's all white people. Race has nothing to do with crime, poverty and education or a lack there of does.
G5,
It's interesting how you require plenty of proof from the "liberals", but still make statements like "abortions are a common method of birth control for married women" which are not factually based in statistics.
Each year, about 2% of women (aged 15-44) have abortions. Under half of them (47%) have had previous abortions.
Only 8% of people who get abortions have never used contraception.
Additionally, Women who have never married obtain 2/3 of all abortions. Meaning that women who have married account for 1/3.
So I would think it's pretty unreasonable to assert that it is a "common method of birth control", especially among married women.
Source:
Jones RK, Darroch JE and Henshaw SK, "Patterns in the socioeconomic characteristics of women obtaining abortions in 2000--2001", Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2002
Also,
You might want to get your facts straight about partial birth abortion. You said "Partial birth abortions are legal murder". Well, according to the partial birth abortion act of 2003 says that it is ILLEGAL murder.
The bill supported by some democrats (63 congressmen and 17 senators), but opposed by the rest on the grounds that it did not include sufficient provisions for a partial birth abortion when the health of the mother is threatened. (it was also opposed by a handful of republicans)
Under the current statute defined by the act, a doctor would be breaking the law by performing a partial birth abortion, even if he deemed it necessary for the survival of the mother. The doctor would then have to appeal to the state medical board to exculpate himself.
The provision itself is so strictly written, that the opposition felt that doctors might be overly hesitant to perform the procedure when necessary, endangering the life of the mother.
And G5,
You are correct that there is genetically only "one race of man" and that having darker skin is no different genetically than having different color eyes.
But just because the concept of race is a social construct instead of a biological construct doesn't make it any less real and pertinent.
It makes just as much sense to say "The difference between liberals and conservatives is no more important genetically than what sort of TV shows you like".
The fact that the concepts are artificial social constructs doesn't make them meaningless.
Race is an issue today because Democrats and blacks keep it alive.
It is all about money. You will find, in the Obamulus Spending bill, that black Americans are going to receive a higher rate of this money than non-blacks. Black Americans are thirteen percent of the population, and I have heard some figures that they will receive close to half of the Obamulus money.
It is all about money. The current black leadership thinks non-whites owe black America something, and that something is cash, and they freakin' want it! And they freakin' want it now! And you better freakin' like it! Or you're a freakin' racist!
The left is totally invested in race. The left uses race against non-blacks the way they think God uses sin on Christians.
McCook Reader - I take exception to just about every single thing that you wrote, other than your name. Good gravy, you really have bought the whole leftist "whitey is bad" agenda. You should be a poster child for White Guilt.
Stop it with that stuff, you've bought allot of propaganda bro. I disagree with you wholeheartedly that McCook is a "very racist" town. If you sincerely believe that, then you clearly have no idea what actual racism is.
Maybe I can give you an example of Racism.
My dad, was a Denver Cop for decades. He repeatedly passed exam after exam for promotion, and was denied promotion. Why? Because he was the wrong color. You got it, he was a white guy, and his color was not color they were promoting. They were promoting brown guys, and black guys. My father was denied promotion because he was white. That is racism. Okay? Got it?
a lot of ignorance on this thread, at least more then usuall.
G.I. says, "450 years of oppression, 450 years of white people getting rich and living out the American dream on the backs of a people they kidnapped from Africa. 450 years of violence, of sweeping hegemonic devaluing, of firehoses and attack dogs, of inspirational leaders being gunned down or lynched, mob rule in the south, the KKK, and the good Christian white man with his boot on the throat of an entire race."
Wow. The US has been a country for 230 + years...but we were "getting rich and living out the American dream" for 200 years before that? OK!!
Not to mention the slight misstatement about "kidnapping" people from Africa...since the slave traders BOUGHT most of the slaves from other Africans.
By the way, GI, did you know that slavery is still LEGAL in many African countries? Ignorance, indeed.
As for the "good Christian" comment, GI, you may want to do a little research into who is was that fought to hard to end the slave trade and slavery in the US and England. You'd find that it was those good Christians you disparage.
Oh, and talk about intolerance, racism, bigotry...
GI says, "You are a coward my friend, and I think this article proves it.....you rednecks are all the same...backwards, stagnant, racists, with a pick and choose faith, and a misguided philosophy that posits everything has to be about aout you you you."
Hmmm...YOU REDNECKS are all the same... Whew, it's a good thing we all "KNOW" that GI isn't an intolerant bigot...or whatever.
For BuffRoam:
Black women are more than 4.8 times more likely than non-Hispanic white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are 2.7 times as likely (AGI).
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/II-A-abortio...
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
http://blackgenocide.org/black.html
As for the rest of your questions, the answers are at:
http://www.poverty.smartlibrary.org/NewI...
And for mccookreader, having grown up in the McCook area, and since lived in several other states, for you to talk about racism in McCook displays a lot of ignorance. One of my good (white) friends from the area was married to a black man, she loved Nebraska because there were so few problems with race.
For BuffRoam again:
You said, "Please explain how on the one hand you are totally against abortion even in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the mother but yet on the other hand you do not support government programs that would help raise the children that are conceived. Instead of providing assistance you call these same people who shouldn't have had the children worthless undeserving people in society. How do you balence (sic) this?"
Point 1: why would anyone be in favor of murdering a child for the father's crime?
Point 2: No one has ever denied the mother's right to live. If her life is actually in danger, as with a tubal pregnancy, it is always better to save one rather than lose two. However, if her "danger" involves mental issues, why murder the child?
Point 3: The War on Poverty has gone on for many years. Currently, we spend about 3 times as much on this war as we spend on defending our country...yet we can never win because welfare checks cannot lift a person out of poverty. Only a job and the resulting mental and financial benefits can do this. Aside from this simple fact, all pro-life people pay their taxes...so support those programs just as you do. We also support charities to assist pregnant women and those with young children. We support food pantries and homeless shelters. In fact, according to many studies, conservative Christians give a far higher percentage of their income to support these charities than do liberals. In fact, it seems that many who strongly support those government programs...and abortion...do so because they don't want to spend their own money on helping those YOU call "worthless undeserving people."
The civil war was started to keep the states from succeeding the union, not for freeing the slaves. Lincoln did eventually make it about freeing the slaves in order to keep from England supporting the south. By changing the meaning of the war to about slaves if England supported the south, they were supporting Slavery. Also, the Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the states that had succeeded. The border states that had slaves but were supporting the North were allowed to keep them. Of course, this was keep them happy so they wouldn't switch sides and there-by hurting the North's chances at winning.
This is all according to my classes from McCook High School.
so if someone disagrees with your values, opinions and sources of enlightenment, they are rednecks?
and who defines/determines those attributes?
The reason "racism" is still so touchy is because of people getting "butt hurt" over the subject as soon as someone disagrees with their opinion. It can not be a casual conversation usually without argument. Does that make them insecure? A racist? That is not for me to decide. However, sometimes we just need to look at ourselves!! Maybe the problem is there :o)
Unfortunately unless they zap the culture and turn us into to all look the same, all dress the same, all make the same amount of money, ect. -there will always be some sort of he has more because....
Guillermo,
Gracias por ser perro guardián de McCook y ponerlos en el radar del pensamiento constructivo.I suppose I run a risk complementing you in Spanish given the clearly racist undertones of this blog, but from one Spaniard to another, felicitaciones! Your clear persistence and factually leveraged arguments amidst this pack of frightened . . . clones . . . represents a series of small victories for intelligent and civilly minded people everywhere. With every wild reference to an organization such as NAMBLA during a discussion on racism, know you are hitting G5's reflexive verbal sphincter, causing him to spew Freudian and desperate slips hinting at his own inability to argue intelligently.
its been a few years since college spanish, but I dont have a small mind.
You two-Guillermo & Langostina- being hispanic- how is racial profiling in tour town\city....is it something that people are open to talk about or more closed subject-honestly I am just curious how others handle these things!!!
You two-Guillermo & Langostina- being hispanic- how is racial profiling in tour town\city....is it something that people are open to talk about or more closed subject-honestly I am just curious how others handle these things!!!
G.I., I find your responses interesting. The conservatives you respond to may be considered extreme, but are you not stooping to the same level by responding in kind with terms such as coward, redneck, lapdog, backwards and stagnant? You are giving the impression that you are very impressed with yourself which detracts from your arguments. In my opinion, you are merely perpetuating the stereo-type of liberals being elitist snobs. Have you read any responses from "jhat"? He presents his reasoned arguments without denigrating the opposing viewpoint or poster.
G.I. I did not post that I thought they were an elite group; I posted "elitist". I could be wrong, but I believe there is a difference.
I could be wrong but I believe that people in the US have died from malpratice and not having the money for treatment. We need universal health care in this country.
I will agree with the elite part of your response; I still believe there is a difference between "elite" and "elitism". To me, elitists are disdainful and full of themselves. If you are referring to President Bush, I will respectfully disagree. Being able to speak with eloquence may mean a good education but it does not rule out intelligence if you are unable to speak coherently. I have listened to eloquent speakers who have left me wondering if they had any real intelligence (and before you or those who think like you, jump on my response, I am NOT referring to President Obama). And I am so weary of leftists trying to blame ALL our current woes on the previous administration. Yes, they made mistakes, and if you believe President Obama will not make any, I think you are sadly mistaken.
G.I. thank you for responding to my posts in a civil manner. After reading most of them, I am of the opinion that while we are far apart on many issues, we may be very close on many others.
I think Bush lied, but only about being a Conservative. He said he was, but when it came down to it, he was another one of these damn blue blood country club Republicans.
He abandoned just about every conservative principle he said he had, and the rest of the Republicans followed right along.
When Bush had such low approval numbers, the press never took into account people like me. People who believed that Bush had moved way too far to the left.
Liberals did not betray me. One can not blame a scorpion for being a scorpion. But the Bush Republicans betrayed the conservatives, and Obama and his majority are the result.
Ok, I haven't finished reading everybody's posts yet, I just had something to add to the bit about the KKK that was posted above. The KKK was originally formed by Democrats. When that came up in my history class at McCook Community College a few years ago, I was very surprised. You don't have to take my word for it, though, here's a link to the Wikipedia page on the KKK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KKK
Apparently, there's been more than one klan. The first one, though, is the one I'm referring to.
"In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life."
This information is under the "creation" section on the first klan.
That's all I wanted to say about that. I'm going to scroll back up & finish reading the rest of the posts.
Guillermo,
High school was too long ago for me to remember that, but I vaguely recall something from the class I took at McCook Community College. (We had a substitute during that section that lectured in a monotone guaranteed to put everybody to sleep, no matter how much coffee you drank. I'll take the high school bit as a compliment, and then I won't feel so old).
I did look up both the Democratic and Republican parties on Wikipedia after reading some of the comments on it, and that information was there, too. As for myself, I usually avoid political discussions, since I don't consider myself either a Dem or a Rep. I agree with some things from each party, and vote my conscience. And before anybody asks, I don't advertise how I vote. That's the beauty of our voting system. Nobody is forced to tell how they voted. I will say that I put a lot of thought into both sides before I decide. That way there are no regrets later, no matter how the election turns out.
To the above posters who have basically called me blasphemous for referring to McCook as racist:
If you truly do not believe McCook has a large racist community, you are most likely oblivious to it, thus making you part of the problem.
Racism stems from ignorance. Ignorance builds stereotypes. Now of course, there are many fine people in mccook whom are not in the least bit racist, especially the younger people. But a large majority of the people over 40 have a very narrowmineded view of the world around them. You cannot deny this when I have witnessed literally countless racist comments. I have been around several "good ole" farmers who have made horrendous comments about Mexicans. By my apperance you would not think I am of Mexican descent, so I hear comments like this all of the time.
It seems that many on this board feel that something is racist only of a minority hears it. You making snide comments at your dinner table to your family is just as racist.
And racism is not necesarilly hate for another race. Its ignorance. And that is in spades in sw nebraska. You don't have to say I hate black people to be racist. If in your mind you secretly believe black people aren't as naturally intelligent, or hard working, you are racist.
If you believe all muslims are evil and want to kill you, you're racist. Again, this is a select group of people ruining it for everyone in mccook. Most of the people i encounter on a day to day basis have a good head on their shoulder in regards to race and race relations.
Oh and just for kicks and giggles; I've discovered quite a sore point in older people from McCook.
Many people are shocked when I say that jesus wasn't a white man like the pictures of him we see. Not that it makes a difference on faith, but this is a big example of ignorance. Ignorance is ignoring thoughts and logic but still thinking you have a valid understanding.
As hard as it is for many to swallow, Jesus would have looked like many of the terrorists that we as a nation are trying to eradicate.
As a blonde and blue-eyed southern white, with direct famalial ties to Jeff Davis and R.E. Lee, I ain't exactly no Eastern snob liberal.
With a lifetime in succesful business, might even be considered fiscally conservative.
But if anyone denies "White against black and brown and tan" racism in the United States, they have a problem with reality.
This is not to say all, most or even a major percentage of "black" individuals are people of great education, Anglo-ethics deportment, conservative bearing and refinement.
Where I live now, a strong percentage of all minorities are under educated, under motivated and under achieving, -- except for recent immigrants from Latin America.
A staunch REPUBLICAN CONTRACTOR friend stated emphatically last Monday --
"If you want to get a job done, you can hire six native-born WHITE workers, drug test weekly and supervise 100%, or hire three native born BLACK workers, drug test daily and supervise 80% -- or you can hire two MEXICANS, tell them the job and get our of their way!"
"For more than ten years, I refused to hire any Mexicans. Now I won't hire anyone else. It is a matter of getting the job done right!"