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Hypocrites and Paranoids

Posted Wednesday, July 1, 2009, at 1:26 PM

The extreme right in this nation seems to be going down a deep dark hole and they are blaming just about everyone for their problems.

Paranoia is running deep in the extreme right these days, where it seems everyday they prop up a new grand paranoia scheme to try to scare Americans. The problem for them is that no one is listening but other paranoids. It's kind of like the crazy guy shouting that the world is coming to an end on the street corner as everyone walks past him with better things to do or bigger things to worry about. The only one seemingly paying attention is the other guy on the other corner shouting the exact same thing. They are a nuisance but you also kind of feel sorry for them.

It has been going for a little over 20 years now, but it has ramped up in the last six months, and boy what a six months it has been. They are so paranoid about Barack Obama that they are doing everything in their power to prove that he isn't president, from trumped up charges that he isn't American to a voter registration group, ACORN, fixing the ENTIRE election, not only to give Obama the victory but the largest victory since Reagan. Democrats didn't get this nasty when Gore won the general election but lost the electoral vote and then Bush was handed the election by the Supreme Court while recounting was still going on.

Now they are all up in a twitter because they don't like the people that are helping get the census out. That's really the nexus of the problem here. They don't want a bunch of black and latino people working on the census. They are so paranoid they ask why there are no white people working on the census. Of course, this is no where close to the truth. There are currently 354 major organizations that are helping with the Census. A complete list can be read here: http://2010.census.gov/partners/pdf/part...

Of course, the paranoid doesn't want you to know that and only lists the groups that they know will scare the most white people. Most of the time they don't even do their own research, they copy and paste from another blog and present the information as their own and then get absolutely livid when they are called on it.

Also, typical of the paranoid is changing their information or their "facts" when they are proven wrong. It has happened multiple times with the birthers and even on this site with the straw man argument of indoctrination in the schools. I can't count on one hand how the paranoids have changed their story, who to blame, to help them push their paranoia based indoctrination in the schools lie.

Then there are the hypocrites on the right that preach morality and family values and then excuse their own when someone doesn't practice what they preach. Perfect example, is the Mark Sanford debacle. The South Carolina governor went missing for five days. Right there that is something that would cause anyone concern, but when it turned out that he had gone all the way to Argentina to visit with his mistress, the hypocrites on the right came out in full force actually excusing a public official for completely disappearing, giving us full of crap lines, such as he needed to get his batteries recharged. If that's what you want to call it ...

But back to the full hypocritical explosion. As it turns out this wasn't his only mistress he had more, though he never, so he says, crossed the sex line with the others. I don't know about you, but that sounds remarkably similar to Clinton claiming that he never had sex with Lewinsky. We all knew he had, but he claimed otherwise anyways. Now Sanford, who, by the way, as a Senator, demanded that Clinton resign for his lies, is sounding very much like Clinton. When he held is first press conference, the times he had been with his Argentine mistress was 3, now all of a sudden it's seven, with two of those visits being in New York.

Now, remember, Sanford is a big morals and family-values guy so you would think that the morals and family-values crowd would be the most offended by his actions. Nope, quite the contrary, they are doing everything in their power to sweep this under the rug and actually, working with the paranoids, trying to find a way to blame this on the Democrats. The more paranoids are actually pointing fingers at Obama while trying to absolve Sanford of what he has done.

Let me make this clear, I think he should resign, but not because of his affair. There is a clear distinction between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to this stuff. Democrats believe in keeping your personal life private, not marching your beliefs out there for everyone to see. Republicans, on the other hand (and I should be clear right wing conservatives) make sure everyone knows that they are the family-values and morality party, so when one of their leaders falls from grace it makes a pretty loud thump.

Back to my point, he should resign, because I don't care who you are, if you are in charge of a state or business, and you just disappear with only a few people knowing how to contact you, you are not doing the best for your people. A few years ago, he pulled one these disappearing acts and one of his staffers had to call him to tell him he needed to come back to the state because of wild fires. Turns out he was in France. With this disappearing act, he told staffers he was going to the Appalachian Trails, only to board a plane for Argentina. He should resign because he doesn't have the best interests for the people of South Carolina in mind.

Will someone please tell Sanford to stop talking. At this point, all this discussion he keeps having should be in private and with his family. No one really cares how many women you could have had, but chose not to. You have to feel for his wife as he has now stated twice that the other woman is his soul mate. I get the feeling though that when he continues talking about this, he is actually being cocky about it, not trying to get forgiveness. I mean, honestly, who (outside of Clinton) actually comes out and talks about the women he could have had.

Hypocrites and Paranoids, the voice of today's Republican Party


Edited the misspelling of Mark Sanford's name

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Add-on

It has always interested me and really confused me that some of the exact people, who for eight years, called ANYONE that questioned the government Un-American and a traitor are now fulling supporting, and many times mentioning themselves, secession. Last time I checked the Constitution secession is not only seen as traitorous but also thoroughly Un-American. Hypocritical at it's finest.


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I guess I don't see what the big deal is all about. Both Left and Right are full of hypocrites and paranoids as you would define them. I generally try not to paint with such a broad brush. If I judged all "Liberals" by your statements I would be just as wrong as judging all "Conservatives" by Sam's statements. The problem as I see it is that the unthinking sheeple and party wags who yell the loudest are quick to point at the failings of those who disagree while disregarding thier own. I believe both you and Sam are poor examples of fringe thinkers who make it more difficult for any reasonable people to have a serious discussion.

I imagine you didn't notice it because it may fall more in line with your beliefs, but I recall many people throughout the eight years of Bush's presidency complaining of how he "stole" the election. I figured as a history teacher you would have a better understanding of the reasons for the electoral college and resist the urge to complain about "general election" numbers or even mention it. I don't think ACORN or anyone else helped Obama "steal" the election, I believe whoever the Democratic Nominee was would have prevailed, even Dennis Kucinich (or however you spell his name). In a few years it will swing back the other way, that's the way it works here.

I understand your complaints about hypocrisy and you make a valid point about Gov Sanford, however I find it telling that although you believe a person's private life should be private you devote 3 paragraphs to describing his personal life. You could have just as easily made the point without ever referencing his private life, if you feel it should be left to him.

Everyone says or does hypocritical things during thier lives, I try to avoid it as much as I can but I am guilty too. Therefore I only throw pebbles. :)

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 2:12 PM

Mike you are right. We should leave morals and family values out of politics. It should just be for whoever lies the best.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 2:34 PM

What charismatic leaders are you referring to Guillermo? I agree these political changes are cyclical. I also recall people fortelling the demise of the Democratic Party as people are foretelling the death of the Republican Party I imagine the same thing will happen again.

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 2:54 PM

SWNebr, if you had read in full my blog you would have seen quite clearly that I was not, in fact, painting with the broad brush you would have everyone believe I was. The hypocrites and paranoids that I was referring to, as I stated in my original blog, were the far right conservatives. Unfortunately, this minority of the party currently has control of the party.

wallismarsh, why do you assume that if we keep morals and family values private affairs that all that leaves are liars. We have people pushing on other people their morals and family values all the while not living up to what they believe everyone should be living by. Are those not the liars?

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 3:07 PM

And also SWNebr, I don't really understand why you are pointing the finger at me. Sanford made his private life public, not me. I was pointing out his hypocrisy in saying that he was a moral, family values guy all the while getting his batteries recharged by a woman in Argentina, and propping himself up by insinuating he could have had many more women.

It amuses me that the people who now want to keep Sanford's private life, just that private, the most, are the ones who couldn't wait to expose Clinton's private life at the drop of a hat, whether it was true or not.

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 3:10 PM

Wow, I'm impressed you can say fellatio on these boards.

I think many of those election cases it isn't so much that they get elected by emhasizing thier private lives but that the people would rather believe in those family value ideals. That, and your post, lead me to an interesting idea:

Does it seem that people would rather vote for politicians under possible false pretences than would vote for clearly stated and truly held ideals?

I still say there is enough hypocrisy to go around.

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 3:11 PM

Mike:

I didn't mean to say you were painting with a broad brush in today's blog but apologize if you feel I did, although to be fair you have painted broadly in the past so I believe I could have some leeway. I don't disagree with your specific points about the extreme right but I feel they can be applied to the extreme left as well and that was the point I was trying to make.

I pointed the finger at you because your blog seems to me to be just as hypocritical as those defenders of Sanford you complain about. Do you not see the hypocricy there?

I have tried to make that point several times on these posts in an attempt to get those who decry others' faults while ignoring thier own to stop and think about thier own side as well. But as you have so correctly chastised me in the past, you are only concerned with views from the other side and not with introspection. If you refuse self-analysis I hope to get through to others who read these posts who are open to new ideas, not ideologues like you and Sam.

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 3:32 PM

Guillermo:

I realized in retrospect it appeared I was casting doubt on your claim,which I didn't intend, but in reality I was truly curious about who you see as future charismatic leaders of the Democratic Party. It seems we only hear about those in high office today.

Not to be too paranoid and therefore showing my "true extreme right colors" but I personally am less interested in charismatic leaders than in genuine good ideas. I'm sure I don't need to list off a bunch of charismatic leaders to show the pitfalls of that type of thinking. After all isn't part of the reason Bush got elected is that he was more charismatic than Gore or Kerry?

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 3:40 PM

Yes you are right Steffanie, his name is Sanford and sorry about the dress, you and the Republicans swallow-Democrats spit it out and save it for evidence.

-- Posted by salamat on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 4:09 PM

The great Democrats and Cap and trade. If you try and sell your house you have to do an energy audit and label it. The bill, as written, is being reviewed by law firms because you may have to bring the house to California Code. That is funny for people in Nebraska and Arkansas as California Code deals with earthquakes.

Google cap and trade and energy audit. There are conflicting reports from everyone as to what all of this means. Congressman Gene Green didn't even know this was in the bill as I called his staff earlier today and they said none of this was in the bill. I received an afternoon call stating they told me incorrectly that this was absent in the bill.

Wow. Let's vote quick and read later. Sort of like ole George. Shoot first and ask questions later.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 4:30 PM

Mike,

"Democrats didn't get this nasty when Gore won the general election but lost the electoral vote and then Bush was handed the election by the Supreme Court while recounting was still going on."

Really!!! That's a joke, right? Democrats, to this day, are still fuming and claiming "stolen election". Not to mention all the screaming and shouting they did while he was in office. They tried saying he stole the election in Ohio too. I think they just got so used to crying about a stolen election that they were on cruise control since 2000. "Didn't get this nasty" that's a good one.

I do think there was some amount of voter registration fraud my members of ACORN and probably other groups and individuals as well but I doubt it would have been enough to change the results, only the margin.

"Now they are all up in a twitter because they don't like the people that are helping get the census out."

I've spoken to the official in charge of hiring workers for the census in our area and he's taking suggestions from community leaders and anyone else with suggestions, about where he can go to recruit workers for the censsus. They're desperate for workers, they'll take help anywhere they can get it. He also made it clear that he wanted to get the word out to as many people as possible because of the need for census workers and a major effort to get as many people included in the census as possible which is good for anyone living in the 3rd District of Nebraska (Which is almost the entire state, geographically).

"Will someone please tell Sanford to stop talking."

On this point, we are in 100% agreement. I think he has every right to keep his job but this is getting ridiculous. He came forward, came clean about where he was and what he was doing. Nuff said bout that. I don't need to know every detail about every person he may have stolen a kiss from or flirted with. I'm sure it hurt his wife to hear him call his mistress his soulmate even though he did say he's trying to fall back in love with his wife. He needs to tell the media he's said all he needs to say publicly and all further discussion on this matter will be handled in private. Thank you, God Bless and don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

-- Posted by McCook1 on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 5:18 PM

Question for Mike,

Today Obama said the wealthy americans must pay for the health care of the poor.

Why should I pay for the health care of someone I don't know.

I went to college on my own. Worked 80 hrs a week for years. Went into debt. I postponed having kids. I paid for what I bought and avoided debt.

Why do I need to help non-family members when i worked so hard and sacrificed for what I have????

Please explain that to me as you seldom have any answers to real questions.

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 8:09 PM

I didn't realize you were wealthy. But I'm guessing it's called helping your fellow man, but hell if you want to be selfish don't pay your taxes.

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 8:53 PM

wallismarsh,

Here is a point to consider:

You are already paying for their healthcare. Despite the arguing and posturing that flies around our healthcare system, the people who work in our hospitals are generally compassionate, and will do everything they can to get someone treatment, even if they don't have health insurance. (though this is most certainly not universally true, some people are denied treatments).

The difficulty is, the people without health insurance have to pay the total amount for their procedures. In many/most cases, they can not. So the cost gets passed on to three groups: the government, the hospital, and the insurance company. All of which pass the cost onto you (via taxes, high hospital bills, and high insurance premiums).

But here is the kicker, people without health insurance do not receive regular preventative procedures and tests. They typically come to the hospital as a last-ditch effort, when the situation has become dire. As any health care professional will tell you, they would have spent far less on preventative care to avoid the problem in the first place, rather than treating it once it became an emergency.

So, even if the administration's plan calls for everyone who has no healthcare to be have their new plans covered completely by the taxpayers (it doesn't), it's still possible that it would, in the end, cost us less. Because paying for their preventive care is more cost effective than paying for their emergency care. (of course, there is still the issue of public plan efficiency vs private plan efficiency, another topic).

-- Posted by jhat on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 10:31 PM

I think if we're going to do public healthcare, have it government backed but privately ran, similar to student loans.

As for cap and trade, I think it can work if done right. Actually, there's already a similar market in place for SO2. The Eu already has a cap and trade in place.

Also, BP in the 1990s said they wanted to reduce their emissions by a good percentage of 1990 levels. The goal to do this was by 2012. They not only met that goal but beat it by 8 years. they also saved the company 60 million a year. BP also started to utilize a cap and trade system for their departments.

Many business already are participating in a cap and trade system. several farms included. The government isn't regulating it but the contracts are legally binding. I believe several north eastern states have started a cap and trade system.

also, even if we don't institute a cap and trade systems, US companies will still have to purchase permits to do trade in other countries. I guess we could quit doing trade with the EU, however, I don't see that being beneficial to us.

Now, I haven't looked much into the energy bill in congress, So I can't say for sure my ideas on it.

-- Posted by npwinder on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 11:34 PM

Mike,

I'm glad to see that you are keeping yourself above the level of those whose morals you dislike. You never viciously attack those that disagree with you, nor condemn those that are imperfect. (or WHATEVER!!!) I guess Sam really made you mad this week.

The "paranoid" right may exist, but it certainly has never gone to the lengths of the violent, intolerant, hateful, paranoid left. We've just spent 8 years listening to the left spew hatred and lies on our president, and now you are shocked, just SHOCKED, by the fact that some on the right are unhappy with Pres. Obama and the damage he is doing.

I also really enjoy your little Sanford-rant. It seems you have missed the MINOR FACT that his own party has repeatedly asked him to resign.

Unlike the Democrats, who maintain office holders that are tax cheats, that are caught with cold cash in their refrigerators, that move underage teens into their homes for sexual purposes, that commit vehicular homicide, or that once belonged to the KKK, the Republicans will remove leaders who have done wrong...or even leaders that haven't actually committed crimes, but were accused of them. (Foley, Delay, maybe Stevens)

Your rants would be more powerful if you'd stick with facts.

-- Posted by MrsSmith on Thu, Jul 2, 2009, at 7:32 AM

MrsSmith, I don't really get where you think I have tried pushing my morals on anyone. My morals and beliefs are my own and I keep them a private matter. But folks such as Steffanie, Mr. Eldridge, Sceptre, et al seem not to be satisfied until everyone believes and acts exactly as they do. They talk about not wanting communism or socialism (don't know which since they interchange the two at will) but that is exactly what they want. Everyone acting and behaving and believing the exact same things, which is their way.

As for Mr. Eldridge making me mad? You think? Let me ask you, if you had someone constantly attacking your profession with lies and misstatements based on the few bad apples out there, wouldn't you get a little miffed? Mr. Eldridge has apparently made it his goal in life to completely trash the education system with lie after lie after lie and then demand those who don't agree with him prove him wrong and then when they do, he continues his lies as if he has his fingers in his ears yelling "nah nah nah I can't hear you". He never offers any facts to prove his points, just his beliefs which, I guess since they are his beliefs he offers them as facts and damn anyone who dare disagree.

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Thu, Jul 2, 2009, at 12:46 PM

I'm gonna side with Mike on this one Mrs. Smith. Why shouldn't he push his morals on everyone? Isn't that the purpose of a blog, to share your ideas. I don't buy that he tried to keep them private, but he shouldn't have to. As for debating with facts on these forums: Everyone knows facts have a bias :)

Sure he attacks those who don't agree with him, just as you do. Why is it ok for you to do so, but not for others?

And Congrats on the pending nuptials.

-- Posted by SWNebr Transplant on Thu, Jul 2, 2009, at 1:19 PM

"Let me ask you, if you had someone constantly attacking your profession with lies and misstatements based on the few bad apples out there, wouldn't you get a little miffed?"

I'd assume the same reasoning could be applied to CEOs, political parties and hospital trustees.

-- Posted by McCook1 on Thu, Jul 2, 2009, at 3:51 PM

Cue Scepter to come right back with some more bad apples to slam a system he doesn't understand.

Why do you think the principal was changing grades? Because of the great program "No Child Left Behind". This policy has been a sham since it's inception, and unfortunately President Obama, instead of abandoning the system and putting something in place that could actually work is planning to just tweak NCLB. It is a horrible system that grades schools on student performance. But it doesn't allow for poor school districts or students that perform horribly on tests or even students that struggle in school. Instead it casts every student into one category and blames the schools when they fail with no offer of assistance.

There is a high school that is now in the 4th year of literacy, which means the state is moving in because the literacy scores are still low. The high school is being blamed for something that happened at an earlier level.

The education system is far from perfect and needs to be fixed but I scoff at these scurrilous and outright lies being forced on this site day in an day out by people who don't have a clue of what actually happens in a school from day to day.

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Thu, Jul 2, 2009, at 4:53 PM

Thank you for the well wishes SWNebr

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Thu, Jul 2, 2009, at 4:58 PM

But I suppose today if teachers are bashing Obama it's all good?

Let's see, you have already exposed most of the lies that I speak of. MOST teachers don't proselytize their beliefs because they just don't have the time. To suggest they do, and then offer no proof that they do is disgraceful.

Students are smarter than you or Mr. Eldridge give them credit for. By the time students reach high school age, most of them have already become ensconced in their political beliefs, mostly by their parents and friends. Students, if they feel that a teacher is teaching his/her beliefs and not teaching, will let those teachers know.

I find it interesting that you and Mr. Eldridge like to talk alot about the "brainwashing" of American students, but I don't think either one of you really have any clue as to what real brainwashing is. If you want an example do a little research into the Jonestown Massacre.

I do not believe you have taught in the education system simply because you honestly believe that most teachers are liberal (they aren't, most are moderates or a little right of moderate) and that you believe that the "In fact" are quite vocal at the wrong time in the wrong place.

Bottom line is, you are wrong about the supposed liberal teaching in the American school system. You are guilty, as is Mr. Eldridge, of taking a few bad apples in the system and painting with a very wide brush that the whole system must be this way.

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, at 12:23 PM

I'm probably alone here but I found Sarah Palin's resignation speech today to be very very rambling. She never really gave a reason except to basically say that it was her children's choice.

Basically she is quitting as governor so that she can continue going on tour. Alaskans just got a huge dose of buyer's remorse.

She's going to fight big government by getting out of politics? Huh? She's pulling an Al Gore.

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, at 4:38 PM

As a conservative, but no longer a Republi-DixieCrat, the non-stop "moral majority" modern-GOP continually rants that only they have family values --

[The Bush twins, with Ma and Pa in the White House, were repeatedly caught presenting false IDs in order to buy alcohol in their teens;

Sarah Palin's daughter is an unwed single teenager;

Senator Ensign was caught THIS MONTH in adultery with his Neighbor's/Top Aide's/Close Friend's wife, who is/was also a staffer, neighbor and "real close" friend;

Mark Sanford was not omly just revealed to have FEET of CLAY, but the clay started a whole lot higher on his anatomy -- and he used taxpayers money to foot the bills for his overseas play;

Cong. Larry Craig really got caught;

(Seems I recall both of those "?MORALISTS?" fervently damning Clinton's misconduct.)

AND HOW MANY staunchly conservative, fervently Republican Conservative fundamentalist preachers have been exposed in the full range of sexual misconduct, through Homosexual and Heterosexual Prostitutes, Church staffers and members -- you keep count, I never wanted to and can't add that high without taking off my "roachkiller" boots.]

Back in the 1950s, Oklahoma was burdened with one of the most corrupt political machines ever known to operate in any conservative, Bible Belt region. At one time, all but one State Supreme Court judge went to prison for official corruption. THAT'S A RECORD few care to beat.

After the state's moderate Democrats elected a young governor who fulfilled a pledge to shut down the bootleg liquor industry and force the state to live with "Legally Dry" reality-- the voters marched to the polls and voted to have legal alcohol.

Almost immediately, the vast majority of the Dixi-Crat politicians switched to the Republican Party, which welcomed them and their sources of graft -- minus payoffs from the bootleggers.

Now, the complaint is that Democrats won't forget flagrantly stolen elections of 2000 and 2004, they won't forget Billionaire Boone Pickens's lyng "swiftboating" campaign, or the fact that both Bush family presidencies created recessions, farm/home/business foreclosures, war, huge budget deficits and enormous federal debt beyond all debts of all previous presidents.

All taxpayers are expected to forget that Dick Cheney's companies (Haliburton and Kellog/Brown & Root) were handed NO-BID, SWEETHEART contracts for Hurricane Katrina cleanup and for Iraq. We are to forget that U.S. Army Auditors have found $34-BILLION in KBR fraud under those contracts -- and another $100-MILLION in fraud by BLACKWATER, another NO-BID CONTRACT GOP political ally.

We had almost forgotten that ENRON honchos had Bush/Cheney White House VIP credentials.

Realizing, I have forgotten some minor GOP MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR corruption items, the FACTS listed seem adequate reason for me to be irritated.

I don't even need consider the non-stop conservative condemming of President Obama for the Bush/Cheney economic disaster.

After all, they only forgot to have competent people in charge of enforcing financial industry regulations.

DubYah and Shotgun Richard had a whole bunch of ol' Texas oil patch drinking buddies needing fat government checks.

You can't expect a Republican conservative to read all those tiresome rules, let alone enforce them.

Particularly when that would prevent other buddies from each grabbing $50-$54-MILLION annual bonuses for running their banks and insurance companies into the ditch.

-- Posted by HerndonHank on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, at 5:05 PM

Unless those computers are terribly flawed which countless investigations have shown that more often than not, computer ballots are flawed.

Um Sceptre, you do realize that Bush is no longer in office, right?

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, at 7:59 PM

Hey you're the one that that said the Bush administration could take lessons, leaving the door open for people to think that you thought they were still in office.

-- Posted by MichaelHendricks on Sat, Jul 4, 2009, at 10:39 AM

Reading the far right comments on this site reaffirm my belief that the far right religious folks in this country are just as scary as the Taliban. (And though they are not represented here, the far left folks are just as scary but perhaps not as dedicated.)

I have had the opportunity to interact with schools in several states over the last 30 years. 90-95% of the teachers out there are committed, effective educators stymied by government regulation (particularly the pathetic "No Child Left Behind" "gift" to education by Bush and company) and uncooperative/nonsupportive parents.

Most surprising to me over the years is the large percentage of conservatives in the teaching profession. Teachers run the gamut of the political spectrum, the vast majority do their best to keep their personal views out of the classroom. And in my experience the biggest offenders of not doing so are far right folks.

It's interesting to read the negative statements about San Francisco (have those of you who slam San Francisco ever even visited it?), Nancy Pelosi, etc. It is the failure of the far right Republicans in California to work constructively with the Majority party in California that has resulted in the financial crisis California now faces. And when two leaders in the State Republican Party did work with the Democrats earlier this year to try to come up with a realistic solution to the financial crisis, the far rightists punished the constructive members of their party. That should scare any thinking adult. The party of Bush and company has grown into the Republican'ts Party.

The idea that Republican'ts are better at managing public money has been totally disproved on the national level by the last three Republican't administrations. Corporate welfare is a much larger problem in the national budget than that going to individuals. Both forms of welfare do need to be reduced for this country to survive, but corporate welfare does less to stimulate the economy when compared to welfare payments to individuals.

And the Terminator has proven that in California

Republican'ts are complete failures at managing public funds.

It is indeed sad to see the party of Goldwater and Lincoln be taken over by far right religious extremists.

-- Posted by ontheleftcoast on Thu, Jul 9, 2009, at 4:59 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJu0DgpiK...

Yes we didn't!

-- Posted by wallismarsh on Thu, Jul 9, 2009, at 10:06 AM


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